DUST Search - skill-less-ness

Joel II X wrote:

Vin Vicious wrote:

Cotsy wrote:

I read the first sentence and laughed, if someone with a cloak is able to sneak up behind you and shotgun you in the back... Hmmm, yea, thats sort of the point. He wouldn't have needed the cloak to do so.

You say its poor gameplay, but in fact its pure skill to sneak up behind someone and kill them. It takes strategy, positioning, awareness, anticipation, and of course map knowledge to do so. You sir, by getting killed from behind demonstrate the lack of skill and awareness and then poor sportsmanship by complaining about it.

You seem to criticize the cloak for aiding him, but for a cloak to matter you would have had to had a chance to view him, and in the case where a scout sneaks up behind you.. Well you sir would not have seen him and therefore its a skillful play. Cloaks have serious problem, but you fail to make a valid point about their use in this case.

Not even gonna bother criticizing the rest, but the goal of a scout should be the attacking from behind. If you can't understand that, i don't see how addressing the other issues matters.

P.s this is possibly the dumbest defense of cloak shottys I've ever seen

He does have a point, though. Assuming he's using a medium frame, he would not have seen a scout running behind him on his radar, nor would he on his frontal view (obviously). This enables the scouts to place a shot or two behind their target.

What the cloak does, is give a broken amount of dampning to your dB so you can hide from scanners fairly easily. As for hiding from your eyes, well, that's a different story. I'll say that the medium was moving for example's sake. If the Scout was moving IN FRONT of the medium, there might've been a chance of the medium spotting him, but losing track if the Scout goes behind an object, rendering him out of sight. The medium would not know where the Scout would come out of next. Now, if the Scout was standing still, chances are very slim that the medium would spot him. You need to be very focused and have a good enough television to notice the difference between the background and the invisibility shroud.

Point is, if the Scout stayed out of sight and shot him in the back, that meant he knew how to get there and how to avoid detection with or without cloak.


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Asha Starwind 857	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:21:00 - [1] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Vin Vicious wrote: Cotsy wrote: I read the first sentence and laughed, if someone with a cloak is able to sneak up behind you and shotgun you in the back... Hmmm, yea, thats sort of the point. He wouldn't have needed the cloak to do so. You say its poor gameplay, but in fact its pure skill to sneak up behind someone and kill them. It takes strategy, positioning, awareness, anticipation, and of course map knowledge to do so. You sir, by getting killed from behind demonstrate the lack of skill and awareness and then poor sportsmanship by complaining about it. You seem to criticize the cloak for aiding him, but for a cloak to matter you would have had to had a chance to view him, and in the case where a scout sneaks up behind you.. Well you sir would not have seen him and therefore its a skillful play. Cloaks have serious problem, but you fail to make a valid point about their use in this case. Not even gonna bother criticizing the rest, but the goal of a scout should be the attacking from behind. If you can't understand that, i don't see how addressing the other issues matters. P.s this is possibly the dumbest defense of cloak shottys I've ever seen He does have a point, though. Assuming he's using a medium frame, he would not have seen a scout running behind him on his radar, nor would he on his frontal view (obviously). This enables the scouts to place a shot or two behind their target. What the cloak does, is give a broken amount of dampning to your dB so you can hide from scanners fairly easily. As for hiding from your eyes, well, that's a different story. I'll say that the medium was moving for example's sake. If the Scout was moving IN FRONT of the medium, there might've been a chance of the medium spotting him, but losing track if the Scout goes behind an object, rendering him out of sight. The medium would not know where the Scout would come out of next. Now, if the Scout was standing still, chances are very slim that the medium would spot him. You need to be very focused and have a good enough television to notice the difference between the background and the invisibility shroud. Point is, if the Scout stayed out of sight and shot him in the back, that meant he knew how to get there and how to avoid detection with or without cloak. ........buuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttttttttttt there is a very high chance that isn't how it played out. Half of the scouts exercise very little caution when moving around the map run into just cloak up and stand still where they would otherwise be fully visible and just wait for peeps to walk past them or face away from them. I really don't have a problem with the tactic itself but at the fact that the cloaker can begin firing before they even fully de-cloak is what bothers me, at the same time giving the victims little to no warning e.g. decloaking audio cue that sometimes plays is pointless because the person decloaking has already remove half or more of your total health or has just outright killed you. An audio tell does wonders for the dead. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms