That still fundamentally means I am better than him because I have ISK and SP........ I guess its not a great in terms of difference......but at that point I see no reason to invest SP and ISK into a build if I received no visible benefits over a lesser build.

My point is why did MLY HAV sales increase five fold and why are those sales numbers as static as they are?

Because MLT HAV are so close in module efficiencies and frame value that there is no real reason to use better since you can achieve the same level of effectiveness with a tank valued at 1/2 the price......

All that means to me, and please by all means try to persuade me, that a new player with less than a quarter of the time and 1/2 the ISK invested is functionally on par with me...... bad or good, what was the point of me putting in effort to develop my tank?

Hey Kage,

You realize that drop suit tiericide will further increase the disparity that CCP should be trying to fix.

You have some good opinions about many other things, but a tiericide system will only further the problem and does little to address matchmaking.

A tiercidie system is one which limits the grade (mot, std, adv., Proto) of the suit and/or modules allows to be used on said suit.

Th goal is to keep a limit, in theory to limit the disparity between the types of suits on the battlefield. It means that a new player, who has no choice but to use a mlt or std suit won't be matched up against a Proto suit in a match. But due to the current SP system and module boosts you immediately provide the advantage to those which more SP.

Quick example, player A has 3m SP. He enters a std drop suit match, where he can bring std and mlt gear into a match. He lacks anything more than level 1 modules and level 1 weapons and nades. He is playing with the highest possible CPU/PG for equipment, weapons but also has the lowest CPU/PG for his suit. His modules and his weapon do not provide him with any additional stats. He further lacks weapon prof skills (damage, reload, reduction) but his suit is also at a serious disadvantage. His std suit lacks racial bonuses (which matter significantly) and depending on his class (most likely assault as he will be unable to choose scout or heavy) he has no hope when he spawns.

Just think of the advantages given by weapon skills alone and you can see how this system is greatly flawed. Now you add in the CPU/PG disadvantages, the module bonus disadvantages, the equipment disadvantages, the role restrictions, the "specialization" restrictions, the racial bonus removal... These things stack and stack and stack and produce odds which are very difficult to overcome.

Right now, if a new player wants to get up to the level of a vet, he/she simply needs to save up and get proto modules/weapons and equip them to a proto suit. Sure the vet still has advantages with proficiencies and whatnot, but the newberry can put himself/herself on a pretty close level compared to when he/she started.


To summarize, what teircide does is take away all the excitement of progressing through the game, and it increases the gap betw

Sincerely, Glantix / Snow

So after a good night's sleep I can finally explain my points better. I have always been horrible at explaining things, so if anyone still needs clarification on something just ask. That being said, let me begin to elaborate and make my counter-points.

1. Right now, once a player gets a proto suit, they can put themselves close to on par with vets with just proto stuff alone.