KAGEHOSHI I would like to know your opinion of tying skills directly into the frames themselves rather than into the skill tree. And specializations would have a Role Bonus applied directly after unlocking Lvl 1 of the specialization. Basically directly fallowing the Eve online approach to Tiercide. Such as

Caldari Basic Frame

Caldari Medium Frame Operation
+5% to Hybrid weapon optimal range per level

and Specelizations would have

Caldari Logistics


Caldari Medium Frame Operation.
-5% to shield recharge delay per level

Caldari Logistics Operation
+5% to nanohive ninite/resupply rate per level

Role bonus
-25% to Equipment Fitting cost.

Okay, hypo-dust example, ill use the caldari medium since its pretty much the most readily used one.

currently it goes basic std-basic adv(can pick discipline here) basic proto into assault std-adv-proto and logi std-adv-proto
with no bonusii being apllied to basics and (currently lackluster) bonusii being applied to specialized suits.

now, for tiericide TO WORK, there NEEDS to be MORE CONTENT. tech levels are huge in this, i think you and i can both agree. Hypo dusts tree would look something like this
Skill: Caldari basic medium frames
Suits: -Combat *5% weapon fitting reduction and 5% reload speed rail weapons per level
-Logistics *5% equip fitting reduction and 5% nantie supply/rate/health of nano hives per level
-Vehicle Supression 5%reduction to swarm lock on time and 5% swarm range per level
-EWAR 5% weapon lockout time and 5% weapon lockout range per level
All of these suits would be available with Caldari Basic Medium Frames skilled to level 1, with bonuses at a perlevel basis it would encourage the use of leveling it all the way to 5

Then at this point, tech 2 vairants can be skilled and unlocked
Skill: Caldari Assault
Suit: -Spectre *5% weapon fitting reduction 5%reload speed per level of cadari basic medium frames
1% incoming damage reduction and 1% movement speed per level of caldari assault
-Linemen *5% weapong fitting reduction, 5% reload speed per level of caldari basic medium frames
*5%shield ext-efficacy and 2% rate of fire hybrid-rails per level

Skill: Caldari Logistics
Suit: Field Technician 5% equip fitting and 5% nanite supply/rate/health per level
5% rate of remote shield booster and 1% transfer range per level.


so on and so forth.

1.Minmatar: +10 melee damage per level

2. Minmatar: 5% damage modifier module efficacy per level

3. Minmatar: 5% increase in shield recharge rate per level

I would like the basic frame skills to have a bonus that not only effects the basic frame, but all specializations within that frame size as well; for example, a Caldari commando would have both the Caldari heavy bonus in addition to the Caldari commando bonus. The bonuses should generally be racially consistent.

Why? once you get the basic frame skill to 3 for unlocking specializations, level 4 and 5 are pointless; sure 5 unlocks a proto suit, but the specilization proto suits are just plain superior in every way because of the bonuses (basic medium < assault, basic light < scout, basic heavy < sentinel). Having a bonus on the basic frame skill that also affects the specializations would definitely make the skill worth it.
Also, I hope one day there will only be militia and standard tier for dropsuits (though with slots and stat of advanced and prototype dropsuits), if standard is unlocked at level 1, and specializations are unlocked at level 3, level 4 and 5 would serve no purpose (since there would be no prototype) if there is no bonus. This idea would make tiercide work better.

[Examples]:

Light:
Amarr: 5% biotic module efficacy per level (could also just make the basic light bonus the current Amarr scout stamina bonus, and give the Amarr scout a good bonus)
Caldari: 5% reduction of precision and range modules PG/CPU per level
Gallente: 5% reduction of profile dampener PG/CPU per level
Minmatar: +10 melee damage per level
*Effects basic lights, scouts, and future light specializations*

Medium
Amarr: 5% reduction of armor plate PG/CPU reduction per level
Caldari: 10% decrease in shield recharge rate per level
Gallente: +1 armor repair rate per level
Minmatar: 5% damage modifier module efficacy per level
*Effects basic mediums, assaults, logistics, and future medium specializations*

Heavy
Amarr: 3% armor plate efficacy per level
Caldari: 3% shield extender efficacy per level
Gallente: 10% armor plate speed penalty reduction per level
Minmatar: 5% increase in shield recharge rate per level
*Effects basic heavies, sentinels, commandos, and future medium specializations*

I never played EVE, but I'm very fond of the idea of attaching the bonuses to suits themselves. Would allow for different variations of the same specialization that have different skills without the need of new skills (like a Khanid variant of the Amarr assault with a bonus to headshots instead of heat buildup reduction).
I would definitely be fine with a role bonus applying to maximum at just level 1 as well.

I would like the basic frame skills to have a bonus that not only effects the basic frame, but all specializations within that frame size as well; for example, a Caldari commando would have both the Caldari heavy bonus in addition to the Caldari commando bonus. The bonuses should generally be racially consistent.

Why? once you get the basic frame skill to 3 for unlocking specializations, level 4 and 5 are pointless; sure 5 unlocks a proto suit, but the specilization proto suits are just plain superior in every way because of the bonuses (basic medium < assault, basic light < scout, basic heavy < sentinel). Having a bonus on the basic frame skill that also affects the specializations would definitely make the skill worth it.
Also, I hope one day there will only be militia and standard tier for dropsuits (though with slots and stat of advanced and prototype dropsuits), if standard is unlocked at level 1, and specializations are unlocked at level 3, level 4 and 5 would serve no purpose (since there would be no prototype) if there is no bonus. This idea would make tiercide work better.

[Examples]:

Light:
Amarr: 5% biotic module efficacy per level (could also just make the basic light bonus the current Amarr scout stamina bonus, and give the Amarr scout a good bonus)
Caldari: 5% reduction of precision and range modules PG/CPU per level
Gallente: 5% reduction of profile dampener PG/CPU per level
Minmatar: +10 melee damage per level
*Effects basic lights, scouts, and future light specializations*

Medium
Amarr: 5% reduction of armor plate PG/CPU reduction per level
Caldari: 10% decrease in shield recharge rate per level
Gallente: +1 armor repair rate per level
Minmatar: 5% damage modifier module efficacy per level
*Effects basic mediums, assaults, logistics, and future medium specializations*

Heavy
Amarr: 3% armor plate efficacy per level
Caldari: 3% shield extender efficacy per level
Gallente: 10% armor plate speed penalty reduction per level
Minmatar: 5% increase in shield recharge rate per level
*Effects basic heavies, sentinels, commandos, and future medium specializations*

First of all I like the idea just not the bonuses, focus more on how the race plays not how the specalization plays.

Light Suits:
Start by focusing on Repping abilities as this what Light Suits should be reliant upon.

Gallante: +5% Armour Repper Efficency +3% Reduction of Armour Plate Penalty per Level
Minmatar: +5% Shield Regulator Efficency +3% Armour Repper Efficency per Level
Caldari: +5% Shield Recharger/Energizer Efficency +3% Shield Regulator Efficency per Level
Amarr: +5% Armour Plate Efficency 3% Reduction of Armour Plate Penalty per Level