DUST Search - Fix the Assault Cr

Eruditus 920 wrote:

Doctor Day wrote:

Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._.

I skilled into the CR during 1.7 when I was brand new. First place I put my SP as a newbie. Did some math and felt it was clearly the best rifle. Reload time, RoF, DPS etc.

Back then (2 months ago) nobody said "boo" about the CR. I mean NOBODY. Everyone cried about the RR and tanks. I can tell you without bias that the CR feels reduced in effectiveness post 1.7 just as much as the other rifles that got adjusted (reduced or nerfed whatever).

I firmly believe after spending my first two months of DUST playing with various weapons and reading this forum that the community latches onto something and decries it as OP. It used to be RR and tanks (which they absolutely still are) now it's scouts and CR. I query you what will be next?

Someone says CR is OP, rumor gains traction, so more people run it, so more people get killed by it, so it must be OP right?

We, as a community, apparently just need something to vilify, complain about, blame and project their frustration towards this game on.

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Doctor Day EoN Minmatar 170	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:29:00 - [1] - Quote Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. Obvious troll is Obvious All Assaults and AV players go to EON MINMATAR channel for squad ups ^_^
Doctor Day EoN Minmatar 170	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:33:00 - [2] - Quote fix it! Obvious troll is Obvious All Assaults and AV players go to EON MINMATAR channel for squad ups ^_^
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 981	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:36:00 - [3] - Quote It's pricing is OP. Reduce the price but leave everything else the same
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2490	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:37:00 - [4] - Quote Yes, fix it.. it has too much hipfire spread. HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes. "I tried so hard and got so far.... but in the end it doesnt even matter."
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1629	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:39:00 - [5] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. Told you Before! I dont like your CORP name.../ You are tarnishing a Great name...\
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5084	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:52:00 - [6] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I recently used some of those on my CalScout. I was disgusted at the complete lack of ANY skill required in using them, and went back to using Laser and Scrambler Rifles. At least with the risk of overheat it feels like I'm not just easy-buttoning. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Doctor Day EoN Minmatar 171	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:53:00 - [7] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. Told you Before! I dont like your CORP name.../ You are tarnishing a Great name...\ Here's a jar,go cry about it Its just a name get over it Obvious troll is Obvious All Assaults and AV players go to EON MINMATAR channel for squad ups ^_^
Yoma Carrim Kinsho Swords Caldari State 477	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:58:00 - [8] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. Sips Coffee ah the nurff hammer has it's next target. Sip Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2783	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:03:00 - [9] - Quote An overheat mechanic would be a nice balancing point without some massive nerf. I mean, a Krin's can overheat, supposedly, so why not an ACR? Let's say you can only fire like 75-80% of the clip before it seizes up unless you ease up on the trigger for a second? "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1393	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:04:00 - [10] - Quote hides his mim assault uhhhh its fine (b^-^;)b I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo

Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1379	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:12:00 - [11] - Quote exchange PG fitting cost with SMG. add fitting penalty for cross race weapon usage. buff AR all problems solved.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 406	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:33:00 - [12] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: An overheat mechanic would be a nice balancing point without some massive nerf. I mean, a Krin's can overheat, supposedly, so why not an ACR? Let's say you can only fire like 75-80% of the clip before it seizes up unless you ease up on the trigger for a second? Stop trying to make it a stand and deliver weapon .......... Do you think the main users of minmatar weapons which is is minmatar suits can afford to fight long firefights ? That's a losing proposition right off the bat for the Matari . The problem is the CR is too effective on suits other than the ones they were truly made for . ( Not to say they aren't effective on Matari suits. They are but it's balanced by the generally lower health of them ) No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 406	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:35:00 - [13] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: exchange PG fitting cost with SMG. add fitting penalty for cross race weapon usage. buff AR all problems solved. Add a few ticks of PG to Minnie Commando and this would be fine . No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 69	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:55:00 - [14] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I skilled into the CR during 1.7 when I was brand new. First place I put my SP as a newbie. Did some math and felt it was clearly the best rifle. Reload time, RoF, DPS, some with scopes etc. Back then (2 months ago) nobody said "boo" about the CR. I mean NOBODY. Everyone cried about the RR and tanks. I can tell you without bias that the CR feels reduced in effectiveness post 1.7 just as much as the other rifles that got adjusted (reduced or nerfed whatever). I firmly believe after spending my first two months of DUST playing with various weapons and reading this forum that the community latches onto something and decries it as OP. It used to be RR and tanks (which they absolutely still are) now it's scouts and CR. I query you what will be next? Someone says CR is OP, rumor gains traction, so more people run it, so more people get killed by it, so it must be OP right? We, as a community, apparently just need something to vilify, complain about, blame and project their frustration towards this game on. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 681	Posted - 2014.04.30 23:05:00 - [15] - Quote You crybabies F the game up every chance u get eh !! Quit using 200 shields and 400 armor and maybe you might live longer My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 953	Posted - 2014.04.30 23:12:00 - [16] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I skilled into the CR during 1.7 when I was brand new. First place I put my SP as a newbie. Did some math and felt it was clearly the best rifle. Reload time, RoF, DPS etc. Back then (2 months ago) nobody said "boo" about the CR. I mean NOBODY. Everyone cried about the RR and tanks. I can tell you without bias that the CR feels reduced in effectiveness post 1.7 just as much as the other rifles that got adjusted (reduced or nerfed whatever). I firmly believe after spending my first two months of DUST playing with various weapons and reading this forum that the community latches onto something and decries it as OP. It used to be RR and tanks (which they absolutely still are) now it's scouts and CR. I query you what will be next? Someone says CR is OP, rumor gains traction, so more people run it, so more people get killed by it, so it must be OP right? We, as a community, apparently just need something to vilify, complain about, blame and project their frustration towards this game on. There were plenty of people complaining about the CR in 1.7, RR just took the brunt of the ridicule. The weapon is better than all the other rifles (yes RR included.) Has sidearm level fitting requirements, better damage profile, very little kick, no overheat, very high rof, and long range. The only negative ammo consumption.
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 69	Posted - 2014.04.30 23:21:00 - [17] - Quote No one complained about the CR in 1.7. That is ridiculous. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1871	Posted - 2014.04.30 23:42:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I recently used some of those on my CalScout. I was disgusted at the complete lack of ANY skill required in using them, and went back to using Laser and Scrambler Rifles. At least with the risk of overheat it feels like I'm not just easy-buttoning. Grab a 10 Dollar Mouse from the Dollar store and plug it in and try. The CR is completely balanced without Aim assist helping 80-90% of the bullets land and register. Even with your aim perfect with mouse and your target stationary ...you can't land that bullet percentage. It's the giant Elephant in the room holding everyones hand that no one wants to talk about.
ugg reset Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 575	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:20:00 - [19] - Quote ScR kills faster, RR's are best at range and ARs are fun to laugh at. CRs aren't that bad, they're just assault assault SMGs. Thr33 is the magic number.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1350	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:22:00 - [20] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. Not joking, it kills 600+ shields cal sents in 1.5 seconds, very op Just fix projectile profile and ccp can figure out the rest I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears

Trenix Keltron Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 187	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:24:00 - [21] - Quote That what kills you the most is not the defining point of what should be nerfed or not. OUKH corporation recruitment active. Initiate enlistment protocols. The future is now
Yoma Carrim Kinsho Swords Caldari State 493	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:26:00 - [22] - Quote Trenix Keltron wrote: That what kills you the most is not the defining point of what should be nerfed or not. This man has a point Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2720	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:26:00 - [23] - Quote Its DPS is 400, 4 higher than an AR Its range is 4m greater than an AR it's not nearly as OP as you believe, however projectile damage profile does neec tweaking. Although a 0.5 dmg per shot nerf wouldn't go amiss. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5094	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:27:00 - [24] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I recently used some of those on my CalScout. I was disgusted at the complete lack of ANY skill required in using them, and went back to using Laser and Scrambler Rifles. At least with the risk of overheat it feels like I'm not just easy-buttoning. Grab a 10 Dollar Mouse from the Dollar store and plug it in and try. The CR is completely balanced without Aim assist helping 80-90% of the bullets land and register. Even with your aim perfect with mouse and your target stationary ...you can't land that bullet percentage. It's the giant Elephant in the room holding everyones hand that no one wants to talk about. Wow. Where did the bad mouse touch you? Can you point to it on this doll here? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1351	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:34:00 - [25] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Bethhy wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I recently used some of those on my CalScout. I was disgusted at the complete lack of ANY skill required in using them, and went back to using Laser and Scrambler Rifles. At least with the risk of overheat it feels like I'm not just easy-buttoning. Grab a 10 Dollar Mouse from the Dollar store and plug it in and try. The CR is completely balanced without Aim assist helping 80-90% of the bullets land and register. Even with your aim perfect with mouse and your target stationary ...you can't land that bullet percentage. It's the giant Elephant in the room holding everyones hand that no one wants to talk about. Wow. Where did the bad mouse touch you? Can you point to it on this doll here? It touched him when he played a pc game for the first time and sucked When I first played on pc I did fairly well I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2721	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:38:00 - [26] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I recently used some of those on my CalScout. I was disgusted at the complete lack of ANY skill required in using them, and went back to using Laser and Scrambler Rifles. At least with the risk of overheat it feels like I'm not just easy-buttoning. Grab a 10 Dollar Mouse from the Dollar store and plug it in and try. The CR is completely balanced without Aim assist helping 80-90% of the bullets land and register. Even with your aim perfect with mouse and your target stationary ...you can't land that bullet percentage. It's the giant Elephant in the room holding everyones hand that no one wants to talk about. Obviously you do things differently in america, we don't have dollar stores, we have pound shops, which I assumed were the same thing. In which case shouldn't everything in a dollar store cost a dollar, isn't that why its called a dollar store? Or do you mean the 10 dollar store? That's capitalism I guess. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1205	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:51:00 - [27] - Quote Is it though? When I run my 100% support logi with no damage mods it struggles to kill anything. Is it more to do with the fact damage mods counter its weakness to shields too easily? Personally it never made sense to me why we had mods like this. I'd rather see mods that change the handling of the weapon (on the weapon itself) in different ways - e.g. extended mags. The ability to directly change the DPS of a weapon seems counter productive to weapon balancing. Why try to make the weapons balanced when a suit with a load of high slots can directly change its characteristics "The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun" "Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
Vitharr Foebane Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1094	Posted - 2014.05.01 00:58:00 - [28] - Quote Ya know whats worse then the ACR? The CR if the wielder knows how to properly feather the trigger. More damage more range same ROF and a scope shudders Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Vargralor Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.05.01 01:01:00 - [29] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Bethhy wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Doctor Day wrote: Its way to op.......with scouts it just makes it more op ._. I recently used some of those on my CalScout. I was disgusted at the complete lack of ANY skill required in using them, and went back to using Laser and Scrambler Rifles. At least with the risk of overheat it feels like I'm not just easy-buttoning. Grab a 10 Dollar Mouse from the Dollar store and plug it in and try. The CR is completely balanced without Aim assist helping 80-90% of the bullets land and register. Even with your aim perfect with mouse and your target stationary ...you can't land that bullet percentage. It's the giant Elephant in the room holding everyones hand that no one wants to talk about. Obviously you do things differently in america, we don't have dollar stores, we have pound shops, which I assumed were the same thing. In which case shouldn't everything in a dollar store cost a dollar, isn't that why its called a dollar store? Or do you mean the 10 dollar store? That's capitalism I guess. Love that the best rebuttal to his point that anyone can make is to troll. He is right. The issue is not the Combat Rifle stats it is aim assist on the Combat Rifle. Disable Aim Assist with the Combat Rifle and the "issues" go away.
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 71	Posted - 2014.05.01 01:03:00 - [30] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: No one complained about the CR in 1.7. That is ridiculous. Actually... they did... and the Rail Rifle as well...



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