farm isk with my squad for 10 hours straight in pubs and still only have less than 5% of dns's isk.

You guys say one thing but your actions do something else...

You guys don't really want competition. You do not want good fights. You will get bored fighting the same people in your alliance everyday.

Meta noob that can play... go eat another taco hasbeen while you hold others back.

When we used to fight it always reminded me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerUbfOQTW0

Please not another he-she pretending to be me. You have no idea how often that happens to me.

It's only natural that NS is the group that claims to be neutral and wants to sit there and farm ISK.

You guys don't really want competition. You do not want good fights. You will get bored fighting the same people in your alliance everyday.

My advice?

Rally up your strength right now, train, farm isk in pubs, as currently, clone packs are useless. They will most likely see a buff in the near future.

Always be decisive about the time to strike.

sorry princess, You made the thread, what your the only person with a alt that can hate beers? I mean its beers, no one really likes him,

They put up with him.

Why?

No one really knows.

I don't hate beers. It's just that you suddenly started posting as I was getting flamed and started defending me, and the fact that you're stating opinions that are not too different from mine, but with more aggression (which could be explained by the theory that you are my alt).

I may not hate beers, but I don't put up with him either. I nod yes anytime he chirps up and *poof*! he disappears! imagine that.

People like me and you must have over 1,000 hours of practice in pc fights.

You cannot expect someone with less than 10 hours of pc practice to come in and give you a challenge without a little help.

So, when you guys break up who gets to keep the dog?

In this context, are you refering to NS?

If so, my bet is that NS will stick with AE ^-^

Regarding that other post, I am wayyy to lazy to set that up. If I wasn't I would be in Dust Uni rather than in a try hard for the fortune corp.

Though that would indeed be a step in the right direction, but a few months down the road when PVE and PC 2.0 comes out, will what little practice we have given them really matter?

I'm seriously considering it btw win me over

I was hoping we would qualify as the dog, you know like the family pet poodle. Does this mean we are the trailer trash in laws?

As far as I'm aware DNSBlack isn't one for bullsh**. Doubt he will bother with dust anymore or pick the side "seemly most likely" to win, and the one with more mature leaders, ERA. AE has been causing too much sh** in his eyes probably :(

Considering everything kain has to offer AE has defeated in our current great war win streak, though sending all of them at us at once will be a war to see. If DNS splits it will be the next great war rivaling the EoN.-Cronos war.

what would a few months matter? It would matter a hell of alot.

First of all you are making an assumption that pve and pc 2.0 will be out in a few months. Do not do that. It is CCP... Even if it does come out in a few months, the state of this game will only further deteriorate before it is ready. A force with alot of resources can help to alleviate and slow some of that deterioration.

Second of all there is alot of demand for people that want to get into pc. The only reason I played this game was for pc. I actually have pictures of my wallet where I wont play pubs for weeks. Others that have been kicked out of pc must feel the same way. There are other corps who dream of pc but they have no direction. All they need is a little push and a little guidance. I have helped smaller corps in the past. Gave them tips, helped them get districts. One such corp was shootbreakstab. It didn't last long but their entire outlook of the game changed. They spent hundreds of millions on pc and loved it. They even got another corp( their closest ally) more and more into pc. Subsonic synthesis a corp that has never been in pc before was starting to make an emergence. Joined an alliance. Started to get more and more organized. Spending hours talking and strategizing about pc before playing one. When it would take us like 10 minutes.

Do you remember those feelings? As a vet, it is easy to start to feel "meh" about pc but that is not the case for everyone. With all of this happening now.. I can tell you what they are feeling now. A buzzkill. Some say it is hard to get new corps into pc, and I am inclined to agree that pc is broken but another factor is declining numbers. It is hard to start a corp unless you are very influential. Not enough new players joining the game. The atmosphere of this game being created by its own players is not helping either. You can say well "why don't they challenge us?". well because you simply cannot expect a corp with minimal experience to face an A-tiered corp. They would be facing c-tiered, until their fc learns more strategy and how things work. Then fighting B-team and so on as they get better.

A few months can be a long time. Whats going to happen? More people will leave. More people will quit. I expect not all of dns is immune to this. Some of you guys might just wanna go out with a bang. There you go. Bang created. But what about everyone else?

NS already said they want to stay neutral when the war between NF and AE happens having already gotten offers from both sides in the matter.There is a reason the NF group is building so many teams. Dont worry we will wait till soul and the rest take a break from dota and only attack AE on the weekends so marauder can play too. This time around you wont be able to beg and bribe you way out of extinction.

You're losing me. I asked you to win me over by proving to me if doing training matches will really matter in the long run for the player base, not what negative effects doing nothing will have on the short term.

I'm talking when PC 2.0 and PVE get deployed, because trust me, CCP has gone this far, they will be. Whether that be in a few months or up to a year, it will happen and the players will start coming back regardless of what happens now.

I wanted you to tell me what this will have an effect on a year from now when the NPE is good enough to catch the attention of noobs and keep them around, when anyone can set up a competitive match like the old school corp battles, but not generate isk like PC.

You need to look at the bigger picture and desensitize yourself to the meaningless QQ of about things that eventually won't matter.

The ultimate question is, will DNS's actions prevent CCP from coming out with all that content designed to increase and hold a player base? Because if not, it will inevitably be irrelevant to the final result.

So the real question is, are we willing to give up our time and isk to make the wait more enjoyable for a selected, undeserving few? Perhaps. Maybe when I get my ps3 back LOL

AE has been stepping up lately showing us they're cool side.

Hope to keep seeing more of it! AE has been showing compassion to the community and a commitment to game. They've been growing steadily in a good direction.

Don't think for a second there's any real animosity going on. There's a lot for us to be mad at each other for, and we'll let tempers go, but we do actually get along.

Arirana, is a good example. MELEE GLITCHING PoS. Why can't I ******* hate you?!?!

But, I can't. And it's because he's a good guy if you get to know him, just like AE, just like DNS.

o/ if war ever does break out it'll be one this community won't forget.

This whole thread reads like a bad fanfiction written by a college english lit major. Thanks for sharing your irrelevant drama I guess?

It's only natural that NS is the group that claims to be neutral and wants to sit there and farm ISK.

what would a few months matter? It would matter a hell of alot.

First of all you are making an assumption that pve and pc 2.0 will be out in a few months. Do not do that. It is CCP... Even if it does come out in a few months, the state of this game will only further deteriorate before it is ready. A force with alot of resources can help to alleviate and slow some of that deterioration.

Second of all there is alot of demand for people that want to get into pc. The only reason I played this game was for pc. I actually have pictures of my wallet where I wont play pubs for weeks. Others that have been kicked out of pc must feel the same way. There are other corps who dream of pc but they have no direction. All they need is a little push and a little guidance. I have helped smaller corps in the past. Gave them tips, helped them get districts. One such corp was shootbreakstab. It didn't last long but their entire outlook of the game changed. They spent hundreds of millions on pc and loved it. They even got another corp( their closest ally) more and more into pc. Subsonic synthesis a corp that has never been in pc before was starting to make an emergence. Joined an alliance. Started to get more and more organized. Spending hours talking and strategizing about pc before playing one. When it would take us like 10 minutes.

Do you remember those feelings? As a vet, it is easy to start to feel "meh" about pc but that is not the case for everyone. With all of this happening now.. I can tell you what they are feeling now. A buzzkill. Some say it is hard to get new corps into pc, and I am inclined to agree that pc is broken but another factor is declining numbers. It is hard to start a corp unless you are very influential. Not enough new players joining the game. The atmosphere of this game being created by its own players is not helping either. You can say well "why don't they challenge us?". well because you simply cannot expect a corp with minimal experience to face an A-tiered corp. They would be facing c-tiered, until their fc learns more strategy and how things work. Then fighting B-team and so on as they get better.

A few months can be a long time. Whats going to happen? More people will leave. More people will quit. I expect not all of dns is immune to this. Some of you guys might just wanna go out with a bang. There you go. Bang created. But what about everyone else?