DUST Search - the solution to balancing minmatar

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

All the Min Assault needs is a Slot Change and a slight CPU buff.

Thats it.

I've also found that Min Assaults are excellent hybrid tankers. You can't jack shields up too high, but you can get good shielding (405 with 3x Complex), and if you run a regulator, you get 4.35s recharge at 25 hp/s. It's excellent for keeping your shields up.

Combine with an armor plate and rep, and the Min Assault becomes much harder to take down. You can use your mobility combined with your regen to make you a deadly mid-range fighter.

If they give me the slot layout I want, I would run this Min Assault:

3x Complex Shield
1x Complex Damage mod

Boundless CR
Core Flaylock
M1 Locus

1x Complex Plate
1x Complex Rep
1x Complex Regulator

Stat Highlights:

405 shields
317 armor

4.35s delay
7.1s depleted
6.25 rep a second

Sprints at 7.4
Insane stamina recharge
The damage mod removes my shield penalty for my CR, and boosts damage towards armor.

I really want a 4/3 layout. It just makes more sense....

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D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1872	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:08:00 - [1] - Quote Simple. 1/2 the price of minmatar suits, from militia to proto, and when minmatar weapons and/or modules are equiped to a minmatar suit, they should get some small fitting bonus, and halve the price on them as well. i.e. minmatar militia hvy frame 600 isk HMG = 1500 forgun =1500 militia minmatar hvy frame equiped with a forgegun = 2100isk militia minmatar hvy frame equiped with a HMG = 2100/2 = 1050 isk Since buffing minmatar suits obviously is unwanted by the community, AND since minmatar suits are always a teir behind (an adv minmatar assault = a STD galente or caldari assault), halving the price of the suits will help lessen the blow to earnings and make minmatar suits more fun to run. since, minmatar have a high learning curve this will help people play the suit more. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1680	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:15:00 - [2] - Quote Oh, so we Amarricans get left to pay that much more for our gear? Nah, screw that, you get your mobility bonus, use it. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3687	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:16:00 - [3] - Quote I already kick ass in my mini ass, make it cheaper would be an added bonus, yes please! Sir Hadah for CPM
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1872	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:23:00 - [4] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Oh, so we Amarricans get left to pay that much more for our gear? Nah, screw that, you get your mobility bonus, use it. ** you.. you get ehp, and nice looking . gold and cheap *** Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4469	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:30:00 - [5] - Quote All the Min Assault needs is a Slot Change and a slight CPU buff. Thats it. I've also found that Min Assaults are excellent hybrid tankers. You can't jack shields up too high, but you can get good shielding (405 with 3x Complex), and if you run a regulator, you get 4.35s recharge at 25 hp/s. It's excellent for keeping your shields up. Combine with an armor plate and rep, and the Min Assault becomes much harder to take down. You can use your mobility combined with your regen to make you a deadly mid-range fighter. If they give me the slot layout I want, I would run this Min Assault: 3x Complex Shield 1x Complex Damage mod Boundless CR Core Flaylock M1 Locus 1x Complex Plate 1x Complex Rep 1x Complex Regulator Stat Highlights: 405 shields 317 armor 4.35s delay 7.1s depleted 6.25 rep a second Sprints at 7.4 Insane stamina recharge The damage mod removes my shield penalty for my CR, and boosts damage towards armor. I really want a 4/3 layout. It just makes more sense.... I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 375	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:41:00 - [6] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: All the Min Assault needs is a Slot Change and a slight CPU buff. Thats it. I've also found that Min Assaults are excellent hybrid tankers. You can't jack shields up too high, but you can get good shielding (405 with 3x Complex), and if you run a regulator, you get 4.35s recharge at 25 hp/s. It's excellent for keeping your shields up. Combine with an armor plate and rep, and the Min Assault becomes much harder to take down. You can use your mobility combined with your regen to make you a deadly mid-range fighter. If they give me the slot layout I want, I would run this Min Assault: 3x Complex Shield 1x Complex Damage mod Boundless CR Core Flaylock M1 Locus 1x Complex Plate 1x Complex Rep 1x Complex Regulator Stat Highlights: 405 shields 317 armor 4.35s delay 7.1s depleted 6.25 rep a second Sprints at 7.4 Insane stamina recharge The damage mod removes my shield penalty for my CR, and boosts damage towards armor. I really want a 4/3 layout. It just makes more sense.... I like this...though I personally would like to see a speed buff to the Minmatar Heavies (sentinel, basic, and commando) since they trade significant HP for an insignificant speed buff. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1680	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:46:00 - [7] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Oh, so we Amarricans get left to pay that much more for our gear? Nah, screw that, you get your mobility bonus, use it. ** you.. you get ehp, and nice looking . gold and cheap *** Okay, I certainly will do that. And besides, just because we get EHP doesn't mean we're invincible. Seriously, have you tried your combat rifle? it's easy mode. Have you tried our scrambler and lasers? You're screwed if there isn't a 15ish meter distance minimum between you and target. Besides, our gold is crafted by the true loyalists of the empire, worn by the true loyalists. Our gold plating comes at a reduced price compared to the bum gear because we serve our empress. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 427	Posted - 2014.04.29 20:09:00 - [8] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Oh, so we Amarricans get left to pay that much more for our gear? Nah, screw that, you get your mobility bonus, use it. Give the Ammarians an optional extra 25% fee for gold filigree. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 381	Posted - 2014.04.29 20:44:00 - [9] - Quote I think something a lot of people overlook when it comes to the Minmatar is that while the suits do indeed suck compared to just about everything else, the guns (Barring the Flaylock currently) are pretty much the best in the game. So yes, the Minmatar suits are bad, but their weapons could defile the Amarr's Empress ten times over without breaking a sweat... with a single magazine! Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 589	Posted - 2014.04.29 20:52:00 - [10] - Quote You can't balance with ISK for the simple fact that one the market opens up current prices won't matter. The market will dictate price and then the "bonus" that the Minnies get will be negated. Although if the suits are truly as UP as everyone says they are then they'll wind up being cheaper anyway due to a lack of demand. Let's just hope the market is announced this weekend. Omnia mutantur nihil interit FW lvl10 reward

D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1880	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:06:00 - [11] - Quote well, no market. and still no balance. a major disappointment. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1880	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:08:00 - [12] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: All the Min Assault needs is a Slot Change and a slight CPU buff. Thats it. I've also found that Min Assaults are excellent hybrid tankers. You can't jack shields up too high, but you can get good shielding (405 with 3x Complex), and if you run a regulator, you get 4.35s recharge at 25 hp/s. It's excellent for keeping your shields up. Combine with an armor plate and rep, and the Min Assault becomes much harder to take down. You can use your mobility combined with your regen to make you a deadly mid-range fighter. If they give me the slot layout I want, I would run this Min Assault: 3x Complex Shield 1x Complex Damage mod Boundless CR Core Flaylock M1 Locus 1x Complex Plate 1x Complex Rep 1x Complex Regulator Stat Highlights: 405 shields 317 armor 4.35s delay 7.1s depleted 6.25 rep a second Sprints at 7.4 Insane stamina recharge The damage mod removes my shield penalty for my CR, and boosts damage towards armor. I really want a 4/3 layout. It just makes more sense.... minmatar heavy has the stats...lol Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10215	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:09:00 - [13] - Quote Solution = Reclaimation Markdown:
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1888	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:40:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Solution = Reclaimation yeah now what? let caldari reclam us. because caldari do everything minmatar are supposed to do in DUST better Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 902	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:46:00 - [15] - Quote I think all racial equipment and weapons should get fitting bonuses when they are on their type of suits. Munch Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
Chimichanga66605 Myrmidon Syndicate 111	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:51:00 - [16] - Quote Holy **....so a 39k Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle? ** YEAH! Best. Idea. Ever. CCP, make it happen!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14931	Posted - 2014.05.12 19:07:00 - [17] - Quote I rather bump up all minmatar suits fittings a bit instead and nerf the CR. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1892	Posted - 2014.05.13 17:21:00 - [18] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: Holy **....so a 39k Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle? ** YEAH! Best. Idea. Ever. CCP, make it happen! the only thing thats good thats minmatar are thier weapons. the weapons are only considered OP when used with other suits. if only minmatar suits could use minmatar weapons no one would complain Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1829	Posted - 2014.05.13 17:22:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Solution = Reclaimation Solution = Destroy Amarr Prime. People find this this review helpful!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9628	Posted - 2014.05.13 17:58:00 - [20] - Quote The solution to balance Minmatar: GIT GUD Minmatar suits are amazing, the fact that you can't take advantage of their playstyle doesn't mean they're bad. Stick to brick suits son. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC

Midas Fool Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 435	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:15:00 - [21] - Quote I would be OK with switching the layouts of the Minmatar Assault suit with that of the Caldari Assault's. STD 3/1 so Cal can crank shields, 2/2 so Min can hybrid tank. ADV 3/2 is the same already PRO 5/2 so Cal can crank shields, 4/3 so Min can hybrid tank. Makes sense, right? +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY
Midas Fool Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 435	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:22:00 - [22] - Quote Also it brings the suits looking closer to their respective logi counterparts. +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY


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