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IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 582	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:46:00 - [1] - Quote Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with *you* +25 = I'm helping
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1945	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:49:00 - [2] - Quote SSD > HD Newegg is your friend. Also, to be clear, this isn't so much modding as utilizing a built in feature of the PS3 (i.e. being able to swap 2-+" Drives) Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2193	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:50:00 - [3] - Quote The SSD will do a lot. It's not really a "mod" persay, as it's supported by Sony in terms of instructions even being provided by Sony on how to upgrade your hard drive. In pub matches, if I decide I want to spawn a vehicle, I am always the first in the queue. I've noticed I rarely have many people spawned by the time I get in now. Honestly, I only really did it to load the game back up faster after the game crashes or I disconnect in Planetary Conquest. But I've also found the game is more stable on an SSD, and less crashes seem to happen as well. I like to check the player list at the start of matches these days, since there's no war barge time, so I rarely end up pressing much advantage from the SSD on the field, personally. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Scrub Zero Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:51:00 - [4] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2193	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:53:00 - [5] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: There are modded trollers and lag switches........ For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Syeven Reed G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 535	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:53:00 - [6] - Quote The SSD gets you in about 3-5 secs earlie I hear, but iv only every used an SSD so got nothing to compare to. Iv personally noticed having a better intern connection (fiber over ADSL) gets you in sooner too. AND for the guy several posts above me lag switched do not work in DUST, everything that counts is calculated server side. The only lag you receive is that of your own connection to the server. Gÿé Syeven 514 Application for CPM1
Haerr Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 482	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:55:00 - [7] - Quote Having a SSD in your PS3 ensures that you will load quicker than people with HDDs. Since you load quicker you have the chance to spawn in quicker --- which leads to being able to quickly get your Maddy in in ambushes, often this allows you to rush the enemies before they have a chance to call in their own vehicles. Oh, fun times on my vehicle alt. Mr. J. Pearson for CPM!
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 3113	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:56:00 - [8] - Quote Long time no see! Basically, from what I understand, the SSD increases only he loading times at the start of matches, giving you a few seconds of grace to get the jump on the enemy; time for a free hack etc. Although the PS3 is incapable of exploiting the SSD, and I've heard that simply installing a 7200rpm HDD as opposed to the 5400 that is default will increase your speeds just as much, and probably be a lot cheaper . Soraya Xel wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: There are modded trollers and lag switches........ For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it. Still works with ScR, I imagine, although there is that hard cap on shots. ak.0 // 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees. Jason Person for CMP!
Dheez Kinsho Swords Caldari State 104	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:07:00 - [9] - Quote Theoretically good ideas, until you run into "Fatal Error syndrome" or "Server Unavailable syndrome". Just save your money for a PS4 or something you really need.
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 711	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:09:00 - [10] - Quote Also: Slim > Super Slim. Source: Have 2 Ps3 side by side, loading into Dust matches at the same time. Tech Guard Recruiting Video

IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 582	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:14:00 - [11] - Quote Ty for the replies. Have read about it, didnt really care until my team spawned into a 150/ 150 redlined match with 3 maddies and 2 ads in the air before any blue or green boots touched the dirt. EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with *you* +25 = I'm helping
noobsniper the 2nd Inner.Hell 473	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:16:00 - [12] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt Silly scrub you can't lag switch in this game git gud "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2937	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:18:00 - [13] - Quote a solid state drive will enhance the performance from dust. Shorter loading times, better frame rate and all over better gaming experience. Im using one since closed beta and it helps ALOT. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 628	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:20:00 - [14] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Long time no see! Basically, from what I understand, the SSD increases only he loading times at the start of matches, giving you a few seconds of grace to get the jump on the enemy; time for a free hack etc. Although the PS3 is incapable of exploiting the SSD, and I've heard that simply installing a 7200rpm HDD as opposed to the 5400 that is default will increase your speeds just as much, and probably be a lot cheaper . Soraya Xel wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: There are modded trollers and lag switches........ For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it. Still works with ScR, I imagine, although there is that hard cap on shots. And the CR Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1860	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:25:00 - [15] - Quote The Playstation 3 has a SATA I port. the cap out speeds for that port is 150mb/s. The Average PLaystation hard drive runs at like 5600 RPM and has speeds of 74mb/s... Half of what it is capable of. When you upgrade your Hard drive to something with read speeds of 150mb/s you essentially double that number. SSD's can read well over 500mb/s caping out even the PS4's Sata 2 port. Anything that gets you closer to your Sata port cap will improve game loading times, and in many cases the game performance its self.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1860	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:33:00 - [16] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt Silly scrub you can't lag switch in this game git gud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gE-ihY_EG0 Learn how they work... And why they can't work in DUST.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 835	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:48:00 - [17] - Quote Bethhy wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Scrub Zero wrote: IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt Silly scrub you can't lag switch in this game git gud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gE-ihY_EG0 Learn how they work... And why they can't work in DUST. And Knowing is half the battle.
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 947	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:50:00 - [18] - Quote Just an FYI for the thread, the PS3 uses a sata 150 connection for the hard drive. So do ntot go and splurdge on an insanely fast SSD, just something with good seek/write/read speeds. The actual data transfer speeds are an issue really. Fixing swarms
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2198	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:52:00 - [19] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Just an FYI for the thread, the PS3 uses a sata 150 connection for the hard drive. So do ntot go and splurdge on an insanely fast SSD, just something with good seek/write/read speeds. The actual data transfer speeds are an issue really. Go cheap, basically. I went with a Kingston SSDNow V300. The 120 GB version is $75. You can get the 60 GB version for $50 if you don't need a ton of space. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 770	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:55:00 - [20] - Quote Mmm? I use the regular Hard Drive. Fastest time I've ever seen load in before me is typically 5 seconds. SSD does nothing if your connection is good to start with. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming

Rifter7 Ancient Exiles. 435	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:59:00 - [21] - Quote my ps3 has a chrome spoiler it makes it faster, apparently. Primus sucks.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1255	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:00:00 - [22] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ Quoting this for stupidity and to preserve. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1255	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:04:00 - [23] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Mmm? I use the regular Hard Drive. Fastest time I've ever seen load in before me is typically 5 seconds. SSD does nothing if your connection is good to start with. Sadly, untrue. It's not all about the connection. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 192	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:13:00 - [24] - Quote Point is none of us should HAVE to "mod" a damn thing with our PS3s to get an "edge" in this game.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1862	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:29:00 - [25] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Point is none of us should HAVE to "mod" a damn thing with our PS3s to get an "edge" in this game. Even the developers of Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn.. Have admitted a SSD improves the ps3 significantly in alot of area's. He then had to take it back later because it voids the PS3 warranty.. Just making sure that part is known. But yes in almost every game you play having double the hard drive speeds improves alot. From GTA's massive load times and rendering.. To Skyrim.... To FF.. to DUST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM here is a SSD test with skyrim for example.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2452	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:58:00 - [26] - Quote I put a Hello Kitty sticker on mine. Thanks to that, I can active Cat Merc Mode on any game of my choosing and summon him to my aid for 5 minutes.
pseudosnipre 698	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:40:00 - [27] - Quote I recall reading that non-SSD were viable, but only large capacity drives due to the increased platter density....requires less movement of the read head. For me it was having my ISP ground my coaxial line... smh. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you. BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1259	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:03:00 - [28] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it. Lag switches work in any game that has a network accessed for multi-player. The trick is simple yet seems to have passed many by because the Myth is that they only work on the host during LAN parties. Probably because that was where they were initially used/discovered. The lag switch simply needs to drop a few packets, just enough for CCP servers to miss a hit packet but not so many as to lose the connection. Since their servers lag all the time that number should be in the 250ms (1/4 second) to 500ms range. Fine tuning would no doubt be necessary. CCP servers has slow ping times, 200ms works fine for EVE but it definitely is too slow for Dust. My normal ping time to Dust servers is ~160ms. Plus or minus several ms. Good ping times to real FPS games are < 50ms, ideally closer to 35ms. Frame display delays on PC games are noticeable when they drop below 30FPS (frame per second in most cases). Recall that the average response time is that same 1/4 second. The younger one is the faster the response. Experimenting would establish a proper solution but this is a F2P game so it hardly seems worth the effort. From the standpoint of any network solution dropped packets are a harsh reality. They must be planned for and adapted to. Simply resending the packet is actually built into the network itself in various forms. I have watched Lag Switches in action in Dust. They are not as prevalent as they had been but many of those Mercs no longer play Dust at all. Good and bad news basically. Glad they and their lag switches are gone but fewer players is not the best solution. One last thing, if CCP/Shanghai would have coded a proper solution then modded controllers would never have been a problem in the beginning. Firing X many rounds per second (1 more than their ROF) and the weapon jams. No destruction of a specific weapon was actually needed. They Nerf Hammer everything sooner or later so this is just me nit picking. Welcome to Dust. And so it goes.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2938	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:05:00 - [29] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Point is none of us should HAVE to "mod" a damn thing with our PS3s to get an "edge" in this game. Even the developers of Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn.. Have admitted a SSD improves the ps3 significantly in alot of area's. He then had to take it back later because it voids the PS3 warranty.. Just making sure that part is known. But yes in almost every game you play having double the hard drive speeds improves alot. From GTA's massive load times and rendering.. To Skyrim.... To FF.. to DUST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM here is a SSD test with skyrim for example. No you dont loose warranty by changing out the HDD. Its even in the manual how to change it. The only time where you would loose it would be if you tear your console apart like removing the blu ray drive or other similar components. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 322	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:08:00 - [30] - Quote I love my SSD, I ALWAYS spawn first if I don't delay myself at the suit select screen. My tank is already hitting the ground by the time the enemy calls for theirs. It's how I catch Nyan/DNS Tankers off guard. I believe SSD players have a duty to their team in pubs to call a tank, otherwise your most likey scrub team will do nothing about the enemy tanks that WILL be called out.

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1259	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:13:00 - [31] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else? I run an SSD on an old PS3. It loads faster and loads textures faster. That is only advantage provided. Although as noted previously if you access the player lists you will lose that advantage. I play with a variety of friends and one has the newer PS3 that only has 12GB of storage. I don't know what it is but one could add a drive to it. However, the friend hadn't yet he was very quick coming into the game. Most likely because of the same advantage the SSD provides. Recall that Sony encrypts the heck out of everything to keep them thieving gamers from stealing their most important IP. God knows the PS3 UI is super secret. What that means for your question is much of the data is on the drive but is encrypted. If it is then it needs to be decrypted and that will slow up the system when it has to load the textures, decrypt them and install them in the game video ram. If you have a SSD laying about. Give it a try. But don't spend much cash on it. Although my system does crash less since the change. Good Luck. And so it goes.
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 202	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:50:00 - [32] - Quote Since i have playstation plus and download games, i have a 500 gb hdd with 7200 rpm. The cost/benifit ratio for a high capacity ssd is not worth it to me. Most games have little tweaks you can do, you can turn down the graphics to a lower res and itll take less time to render things but then you wont see some things so clearly. If you dont download gamesanddont take much space you might as well go for the ssd upgrade.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1377	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:50:00 - [33] - Quote if you buy an SSD for dust you spend money without any benefits. PS3 uses the old SATA I port, a high density hybrid drive will saturate the SATA I port fully and be on par with the SSD and the hybrid drives onboard controller will fully control & take care of the flash rom thus it wont tear it out. not to mention that you save money. the SSD will on the other hand sooner or later tear out due to the lack of support from the hardware and the OS. after a few months it will be even slower than the hybrid drive. KalOfTheRathi wrote: wall of wrong information rofl perfect example of an "internet professional". zero clue but still talking nonstop...
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 130	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:53:00 - [34] - Quote But....But.....It must be possible to lag switch.... I get like 4-5 hate mail per day to stop lag switching/hacking/cheating
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2486	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:56:00 - [35] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Mmm? I use the regular Hard Drive. Fastest time I've ever seen load in before me is typically 5 seconds. SSD does nothing if your connection is good to start with. This is not true.. I am not seldom waiting for at least 20 seconds in the warbarge. Always spawn first. Very important if you are a scout. HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes. "I tried so hard and got so far.... but in the end it doesnt even matter."
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2204	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:08:00 - [36] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it. Lag switches work in any game that has a network accessed for multi-player. The trick is simple yet seems to have passed many by because the Myth is that they only work on the host during LAN parties. Probably because that was where they were initially used/discovered. I've truncated most of the rest of your wrongness for brevity. Lag switches don't work in DUST. Lag switches only work on games where the match is hosted on one of the players' machines, like Call of Duty often is. The host goes to the lowest latency player, who then flips the lag switch so that the game is running on their machine, but everyone accesses it slower. Since DUST matches run off of central servers, the only person a lag switcher hurts in DUST... is himself. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 202	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:20:00 - [37] - Quote Double post


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