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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:46:00 -
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Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else?
EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts
Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with you
+25 = I'm helping
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1945
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:49:00 -
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SSD > HD
Newegg is your friend.
Also, to be clear, this isn't so much modding as utilizing a built in feature of the PS3 (i.e. being able to swap 2-+" Drives)
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2193
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:50:00 -
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The SSD will do a lot. It's not really a "mod" persay, as it's supported by Sony in terms of instructions even being provided by Sony on how to upgrade your hard drive.
In pub matches, if I decide I want to spawn a vehicle, I am always the first in the queue. I've noticed I rarely have many people spawned by the time I get in now. Honestly, I only really did it to load the game back up faster after the game crashes or I disconnect in Planetary Conquest. But I've also found the game is more stable on an SSD, and less crashes seem to happen as well.
I like to check the player list at the start of matches these days, since there's no war barge time, so I rarely end up pressing much advantage from the SSD on the field, personally.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Scrub Zero
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:51:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else?
Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2193
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:53:00 -
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Scrub Zero wrote:There are modded trollers and lag switches........
For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag.
The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad.
535
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:53:00 -
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The SSD gets you in about 3-5 secs earlie I hear, but iv only every used an SSD so got nothing to compare to.
Iv personally noticed having a better intern connection (fiber over ADSL) gets you in sooner too.
AND for the guy several posts above me lag switched do not work in DUST, everything that counts is calculated server side. The only lag you receive is that of your own connection to the server.
Gÿé Syeven 514
Application for CPM1
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
482
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:55:00 -
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Having a SSD in your PS3 ensures that you will load quicker than people with HDDs. Since you load quicker you have the chance to spawn in quicker --- which leads to being able to quickly get your Maddy in in ambushes, often this allows you to rush the enemies before they have a chance to call in their own vehicles.
Oh, fun times on my vehicle alt.
Mr. J. Pearson for CPM!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3113
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:56:00 -
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Long time no see!
Basically, from what I understand, the SSD increases only he loading times at the start of matches, giving you a few seconds of grace to get the jump on the enemy; time for a free hack etc.
Although the PS3 is incapable of exploiting the SSD, and I've heard that simply installing a 7200rpm HDD as opposed to the 5400 that is default will increase your speeds just as much, and probably be a lot cheaper .
Soraya Xel wrote:Scrub Zero wrote:There are modded trollers and lag switches........ For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it.
Still works with ScR, I imagine, although there is that hard cap on shots.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Dheez
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:07:00 -
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Theoretically good ideas, until you run into "Fatal Error syndrome" or "Server Unavailable syndrome". Just save your money for a PS4 or something you really need. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
711
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:09:00 -
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Also:
Slim > Super Slim.
Source: Have 2 Ps3 side by side, loading into Dust matches at the same time.
Tech Guard Recruiting Video
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
582
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:14:00 -
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Ty for the replies. Have read about it, didnt really care until my team spawned into a 150/ 150 redlined match with 3 maddies and 2 ads in the air before any blue or green boots touched the dirt.
EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts
Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with you
+25 = I'm helping
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noobsniper the 2nd
Inner.Hell
473
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:16:00 -
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Scrub Zero wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else?
Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt Silly scrub you can't lag switch in this game git gud
"things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2937
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:18:00 -
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a solid state drive will enhance the performance from dust. Shorter loading times, better frame rate and all over better gaming experience. Im using one since closed beta and it helps ALOT.
Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
628
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:20:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Long time no see! Basically, from what I understand, the SSD increases only he loading times at the start of matches, giving you a few seconds of grace to get the jump on the enemy; time for a free hack etc. Although the PS3 is incapable of exploiting the SSD, and I've heard that simply installing a 7200rpm HDD as opposed to the 5400 that is default will increase your speeds just as much, and probably be a lot cheaper . Soraya Xel wrote:Scrub Zero wrote:There are modded trollers and lag switches........ For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag. The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it. Still works with ScR, I imagine, although there is that hard cap on shots. And the CR
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1860
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:25:00 -
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The Playstation 3 has a SATA I port. the cap out speeds for that port is 150mb/s.
The Average PLaystation hard drive runs at like 5600 RPM and has speeds of 74mb/s... Half of what it is capable of.
When you upgrade your Hard drive to something with read speeds of 150mb/s you essentially double that number.
SSD's can read well over 500mb/s caping out even the PS4's Sata 2 port.
Anything that gets you closer to your Sata port cap will improve game loading times, and in many cases the game performance its self. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1860
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:33:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:Scrub Zero wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else?
Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt Silly scrub you can't lag switch in this game git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gE-ihY_EG0
Learn how they work... And why they can't work in DUST. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
835
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:48:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:noobsniper the 2nd wrote:Scrub Zero wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else?
Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........ You can NOT hack CCP. They have the BEST coders in da world<------ oh no u didnt Silly scrub you can't lag switch in this game git gud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gE-ihY_EG0Learn how they work... And why they can't work in DUST.
And Knowing is half the battle.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
947
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:50:00 -
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Just an FYI for the thread, the PS3 uses a sata 150 connection for the hard drive. So do ntot go and splurdge on an insanely fast SSD, just something with good seek/write/read speeds. The actual data transfer speeds are an issue really.
Fixing swarms
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2198
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:52:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Just an FYI for the thread, the PS3 uses a sata 150 connection for the hard drive. So do ntot go and splurdge on an insanely fast SSD, just something with good seek/write/read speeds. The actual data transfer speeds are an issue really.
Go cheap, basically. I went with a Kingston SSDNow V300. The 120 GB version is $75. You can get the 60 GB version for $50 if you don't need a ton of space.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
770
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:55:00 -
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Mmm? I use the regular Hard Drive. Fastest time I've ever seen load in before me is typically 5 seconds.
SSD does nothing if your connection is good to start with.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
435
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:59:00 -
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my ps3 has a chrome spoiler
it makes it faster, apparently.
Primus sucks.
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1255
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:00:00 -
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Scrub Zero wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Is it the drive alone that gives the early start on matches? Or iit something else?
Lmao........... clueless noob...... Modded ps3 for dust. Now that's priceless. There are modded trollers and lag switches........
Quoting this for stupidity and to preserve.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1255
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:04:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Mmm? I use the regular Hard Drive. Fastest time I've ever seen load in before me is typically 5 seconds.
SSD does nothing if your connection is good to start with.
Sadly, untrue. It's not all about the connection.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Pr0phetzReck0ning
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn
192
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:13:00 -
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Point is none of us should HAVE to "mod" a damn thing with our PS3s to get an "edge" in this game. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1862
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:29:00 -
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Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote:Point is none of us should HAVE to "mod" a damn thing with our PS3s to get an "edge" in this game.
Even the developers of Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn.. Have admitted a SSD improves the ps3 significantly in alot of area's. He then had to take it back later because it voids the PS3 warranty.. Just making sure that part is known.
But yes in almost every game you play having double the hard drive speeds improves alot. From GTA's massive load times and rendering.. To Skyrim.... To FF.. to DUST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM here is a SSD test with skyrim for example. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2452
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:58:00 -
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I put a Hello Kitty sticker on mine.
Thanks to that, I can active Cat Merc Mode on any game of my choosing and summon him to my aid for 5 minutes. |
pseudosnipre
698
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:40:00 -
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I recall reading that non-SSD were viable, but only large capacity drives due to the increased platter density....requires less movement of the read head.
For me it was having my ISP ground my coaxial line... smh.
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1259
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:03:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:For the love of God, lag switches do not work in DUST. You have never been lag switched in DUST. It's just called plain old lag.
The turbo controllers were a big deal with the Tactical Assault Rifle, though they nerfed the crud out of it.
Lag switches work in any game that has a network accessed for multi-player.
The trick is simple yet seems to have passed many by because the Myth is that they only work on the host during LAN parties. Probably because that was where they were initially used/discovered.
The lag switch simply needs to drop a few packets, just enough for CCP servers to miss a hit packet but not so many as to lose the connection. Since their servers lag all the time that number should be in the 250ms (1/4 second) to 500ms range. Fine tuning would no doubt be necessary.
CCP servers has slow ping times, 200ms works fine for EVE but it definitely is too slow for Dust. My normal ping time to Dust servers is ~160ms. Plus or minus several ms. Good ping times to real FPS games are < 50ms, ideally closer to 35ms. Frame display delays on PC games are noticeable when they drop below 30FPS (frame per second in most cases).
Recall that the average response time is that same 1/4 second. The younger one is the faster the response. Experimenting would establish a proper solution but this is a F2P game so it hardly seems worth the effort.
From the standpoint of any network solution dropped packets are a harsh reality. They must be planned for and adapted to. Simply resending the packet is actually built into the network itself in various forms.
I have watched Lag Switches in action in Dust. They are not as prevalent as they had been but many of those Mercs no longer play Dust at all. Good and bad news basically. Glad they and their lag switches are gone but fewer players is not the best solution.
One last thing, if CCP/Shanghai would have coded a proper solution then modded controllers would never have been a problem in the beginning. Firing X many rounds per second (1 more than their ROF) and the weapon jams. No destruction of a specific weapon was actually needed. They Nerf Hammer everything sooner or later so this is just me nit picking.
Welcome to Dust.
And so it goes.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2938
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:05:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote:Point is none of us should HAVE to "mod" a damn thing with our PS3s to get an "edge" in this game. Even the developers of Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn.. Have admitted a SSD improves the ps3 significantly in alot of area's. He then had to take it back later because it voids the PS3 warranty.. Just making sure that part is known. But yes in almost every game you play having double the hard drive speeds improves alot. From GTA's massive load times and rendering.. To Skyrim.... To FF.. to DUST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM here is a SSD test with skyrim for example. No you dont loose warranty by changing out the HDD. Its even in the manual how to change it. The only time where you would loose it would be if you tear your console apart like removing the blu ray drive or other similar components.
Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
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Medical Crash
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
322
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:08:00 -
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I love my SSD, I ALWAYS spawn first if I don't delay myself at the suit select screen. My tank is already hitting the ground by the time the enemy calls for theirs. It's how I catch Nyan/DNS Tankers off guard.
I believe SSD players have a duty to their team in pubs to call a tank, otherwise your most likey scrub team will do nothing about the enemy tanks that WILL be called out. |
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