DUST Search - CCP FIX THE DROPSHIP RAMMING

MarasdF Loron wrote:

jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:

MarasdF Loron wrote:

I've lost dozens of millions of ISK to ramming, but I don't think it should be removed completely. Just made more like the old tank ramming mechanics, which was so that you needed to be doing at least ~75% of your max speed to apply full damage and even then you only damaged as much as you had total HP left and took as much damage as the person you rammed had total HP left. Now it's more like doing your possible total HP in damage at any speed and then some more. I've been flying over 4k total HP Incubus and been rammed down by damaged Python with less than 3k possible total HP only because he was slowly coming towards me in a dogfight (where he/she kept missing) and I thought I could take the very slight collision.

The reason I said total HP and not EHP is because hardeners have no effect on ramming as far as I know.

Um no
Max collision damage shoukd be 1.5k or 500
This is the ******* future
We have shields
Somebody knew to put some anti collision in so it should be low but nit too low

You should be penalized for your mistakes and every collision is pilot error, even if it was someone else ramming you, it was still pilot error.

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jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:28:00 - [1] - Quote On an alt with 0 isk I got rammed by that broken ass mechanic Something needs to be done about the butthurt assholes, 530k down the ******* drain Nice ccp. I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 885	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:29:00 - [2] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: On an alt with 0 isk I got rammed by that broken ass mechanic Something needs to be done about the butthurt assholea, 530k down the ******* drain Nice ccp. Karma maybe? BPOs for Sale Dust Player Since: July 2012 Best Assault Dropship Pilot in the Game
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1372	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:29:00 - [3] - Quote No. Crush them
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1372	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:30:00 - [4] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: No. wtf? Crush them
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:31:00 - [5] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 509	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:50:00 - [6] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. When one object strikes another and does damage to both I believe that's called physics not an exploit. Remember risk vs reward, that drop ship they crashed into you cost them money as well, and for that matter if you have little Isk then you shouldn't be calling out the pricey toys if you are not prepared to lose them.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 368	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:51:00 - [7] - Quote Collision damage is horribly broken for drop ships. I have had guys ram me at full speed only to be knocked off course and I have had guys not even touch me enough to move my ship and I go to 0/0. The damage applied by colliding with buildings or the ground is equally as bad. At this point I fly with zero care on if I hit a building due to the fact that it may just stop you quickly and it may just destroy you. I have noticed some inconsistencies with collisions in LAVs and Tanks as well it is just not as obvious.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1490	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:52:00 - [8] - Quote Situational awareness. That or get some good headphones/ turn the volume up. You can hear another dropship coming a mile away. Me in my ADS: 1,2
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:54:00 - [9] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Situational awareness. That or get some good headphones/ turn the volume up. You can hear another dropship coming a mile away. Situational aware ness Look for cloakes/volume up, evwn if you fighting an enemy or tank or hes behind you if you die your bad I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 318	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:55:00 - [10] - Quote You deserved to die. Dropship ramming is hard to do, and doesn't always work. Also you should have been more aware. The new commandos should have a better paint job. Look at the Amarr one! Please bring back the Warbage! MTACs?

deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 368	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:55:00 - [11] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Situational awareness. That or get some good headphones/ turn the volume up. You can hear another dropship coming a mile away. I have successfully dodged at times (well thought I dodged) that there was no audible impact yet I still went to 0/0 instantly. Personally I just want to see some consistency first then it can be balanced.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1373	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:56:00 - [12] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. Actually I typed lol and no popped up. DS Pilots are the whiniest bitches right after scouts and tankers. I fucken love destroying them. Even blue ones. I shot a few of my own teams DS down in ambush this afternoon. Crush them
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 321	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:56:00 - [13] - Quote It's a valid tactic, let it stay. Funny too. I get hatemail when I ram other pilots. ADS pliots HATE getting rammed,
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:56:00 - [14] - Quote We are 138 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. When one object strikes another and does damage to both I believe that's called physics not an exploit. Remember risk vs reward, that drop ship they crashed into you cost them money as well, and for that matter if you have little Isk then you shouldn't be calling out the pricey toys if you are not prepared to lose them. Oh yea, no No one ahould be able to pull that **** Im getting tired of this games overpowered atuff, framerate, exploits, glitches And 67k or 28k, big ass risk, and not everyone has 176326 billion isk I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:57:00 - [15] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: It's a valid tactic, let it stay. Funny too. I get hatemail when I ram other pilots. ADS pliots HATE getting rammed, Its an exploit Make my lav go 5mph and pop any vehicle even a 2 mil vehicle 1 day and fine Oh wait that would be op I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 369	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:59:00 - [16] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: It's a valid tactic, let it stay. Funny too. I get hatemail when I ram other pilots. ADS pliots HATE getting rammed, Its just as valid as when LAVs could brush you on a drive by and still insta kill you. Should we bring that back as well? You can call it valid when it is backed up by a functioning mechanic and not just a random application of some damage.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:59:00 - [17] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. Actually I typed lol and no popped up. DS Pilots are the whiniest bitches right after scouts and tankers. I fucken love destroying them. Even blue ones. I shot a few of my own teams DS down in ambush this afternoon. Your an assnole then Ads pilots complain because so many things are op against them Forges, I 3 shot ads Ramming exploit, totally unfair Tap mcc 1 mph and die Way too high of an price, should be as or cheaper than tanks I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
POWERTRAP EDDIEKANEJR ZionTCD 10	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:03:00 - [18] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: On an alt with 0 isk I got rammed by that broken ass mechanic Something needs to be done about the butthurt assholes, 530k down the ***** drain Nice ccp. Im sorry im just fed up with this game's unbalances glitches and exploits (pc free isk and most people are poor) with the swarm launcher range how else you suppose to down a dropship from goin 30-0 so stop crying I will not let the Borg assimilate me**
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:05:00 - [19] - Quote POWERTRAP EDDIEKANEJR wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: On an alt with 0 isk I got rammed by that broken ass mechanic Something needs to be done about the butthurt assholes, 530k down the ******* drain Nice ccp. Im sorry im just fed up with this game's unbalances glitches and exploits (pc free isk and most people are poor) with the swarm launcher range how else you suppose to down a dropship from goin 30-0 so stop crying yaawn Your ******** post bored me Any ads pilot who goes 30-o has ZERO av resistance, so stop your crying And forge gun, um adv or proto swarms, plus they knock off his aim, um rail turrets, need I say more? I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 498	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:05:00 - [20] - Quote I've lost dozens of millions of ISK to ramming, but I don't think it should be removed completely. Just made more like the old tank ramming mechanics, which was so that you needed to be doing at least ~75% of your max speed to apply full damage and even then you only damaged as much as you had total HP left and took as much damage as the person you rammed had total HP left. Now it's more like doing your possible total HP in damage at any speed and then some more. I've been flying over 4k total HP Incubus and been rammed down by damaged Python with less than 3k possible total HP only because he was slowly coming towards me in a dogfight (where he kept missing) and I thought I could take the very slight collision. The reason I said total HP and not EHP is because hardeners have no effect on ramming as far as I know. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.

JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 148	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:05:00 - [21] - Quote Yeah, it's so cheap. As someone said above, i'd be ok with it if the collision damage made sense 100% of the time. But still it's cheap A.F.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 369	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:06:00 - [22] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ads pilots complain because so many things are op against them Forges, I 3 shot ads Ramming exploit, totally unfair Tap mcc 1 mph and die Way too high of an price, should be as or cheaper than tanks Forges are in an ok place with a decently fitted dropship. You can either kill the forge gunner (highlighted by the giant glow on the ground) or get away from them MCC damage and ramming goes back to horribly broken collision detection. The hull should be reduced by 100-150k but should cost more than tanks as they provide a good amount of superiority and in a good pilots hands can survive very well.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:06:00 - [23] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: I've lost dozens of millions of ISK to ramming, but I don't think it should be removed completely. Just made more like the old tank ramming mechanics, which was so that you needed to be doing at least ~75% of your max speed to apply full damage and even then you only damaged as much as you had total HP left and took as much damage as the person you rammed had total HP left. Now it's more like doing your possible total HP in damage at any speed and then some more. I've been flying over 4k total HP Incubus and been rammed down by damaged Python with less than 3k possible total HP only because he was slowly coming towards me in a dogfight (where he/she kept missing) and I thought I could take the very slight collision. The reason I said total HP and not EHP is because hardeners have no effect on ramming as far as I know. Um no Max collision damage shoukd be 1.5k or 500 This is the ******* future We have shields Somebody knew to put some anti collision in so it should be low but nit too low I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1320	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:08:00 - [24] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ads pilots complain because so many things are op against them Forges, I 3 shot ads Ramming exploit, totally unfair Tap mcc 1 mph and die Way too high of an price, should be as or cheaper than tanks Forges are in an ok place with a decently fitted dropship. You can either kill the forge gunner (highlighted by the giant glow on the ground) or get away from them MCC damage and ramming goes back to horribly broken collision detection. The hull should be reduced by 100-150k but should cost more than tanks as they provide a good amount of superiority and in a good pilots hands can survive very well. Not more than tanks total 150k hull price Max collision damage needs to be set, no more than 2k I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 370	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:14:00 - [25] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: deezy dabest wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ads pilots complain because so many things are op against them Forges, I 3 shot ads Ramming exploit, totally unfair Tap mcc 1 mph and die Way too high of an price, should be as or cheaper than tanks Forges are in an ok place with a decently fitted dropship. You can either kill the forge gunner (highlighted by the giant glow on the ground) or get away from them MCC damage and ramming goes back to horribly broken collision detection. The hull should be reduced by 100-150k but should cost more than tanks as they provide a good amount of superiority and in a good pilots hands can survive very well. Not more than tanks total 150k hull price Max collision damage needs to be set, no more than 2k Max collision damage would be a good example of a normal CCP band aid on a bullet wound and fit right in. Applying the physics of an impact have obviously eluded them in every way. I say they just base it on speed and amount of surface contact and call it a day. Rammers can still ram and pilots can actually avoid if they are paying attention.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1373	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:18:00 - [26] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. Actually I typed lol and no popped up. DS Pilots are the whiniest bitches right after scouts and tankers. I fucken love destroying them. Even blue ones. I shot a few of my own teams DS down in ambush this afternoon. Your an assnole then Ads pilots complain because so many things are op against them Forges, I 3 shot ads Ramming exploit, totally unfair Tap mcc 1 mph and die Way too high of an price, should be as or cheaper than tanks you're Crush them
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 501	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:29:00 - [27] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: I've lost dozens of millions of ISK to ramming, but I don't think it should be removed completely. Just made more like the old tank ramming mechanics, which was so that you needed to be doing at least ~75% of your max speed to apply full damage and even then you only damaged as much as you had total HP left and took as much damage as the person you rammed had total HP left. Now it's more like doing your possible total HP in damage at any speed and then some more. I've been flying over 4k total HP Incubus and been rammed down by damaged Python with less than 3k possible total HP only because he was slowly coming towards me in a dogfight (where he/she kept missing) and I thought I could take the very slight collision. The reason I said total HP and not EHP is because hardeners have no effect on ramming as far as I know. Um no Max collision damage shoukd be 1.5k or 500 This is the ******* future We have shields Somebody knew to put some anti collision in so it should be low but nit too low You should be penalized for your mistakes and every collision is pilot error, even if it was someone else ramming you, it was still pilot error. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
Tectonic Fusion 1639	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:32:00 - [28] - Quote No. Squad status: Locked Ehem...OBVIOUSER troll is OBVIOUSER Solo
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 503	Posted - 2014.04.29 05:03:00 - [29] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: I've lost dozens of millions of ISK to ramming, but I don't think it should be removed completely. Just made more like the old tank ramming mechanics, which was so that you needed to be doing at least ~75% of your max speed to apply full damage and even then you only damaged as much as you had total HP left and took as much damage as the person you rammed had total HP left. Now it's more like doing your possible total HP in damage at any speed and then some more. I've been flying over 4k total HP Incubus and been rammed down by damaged Python with less than 3k possible total HP only because he was slowly coming towards me in a dogfight (where he/she kept missing) and I thought I could take the very slight collision. The reason I said total HP and not EHP is because hardeners have no effect on ramming as far as I know. Um no Max collision damage shoukd be 1.5k or 500 This is the ******* future We have shields Somebody knew to put some anti collision in so it should be low but nit too low You should be penalized for your mistakes and every collision is pilot error, even if it was someone else ramming you, it was still pilot error. So if an RVD materializes out of nowhere and smashes my dropship, is my fault? Also, when does tapping a building kill you? I've landed my Myron, and thing goes poor because the ground decided I was moving too fast, but in a grimsnes I can do the same landing twice has hard and survive. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1322	Posted - 2014.04.29 05:20:00 - [30] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No. Leme guess you're the butthurt scrub who cant down a ship so you exploit. Actually I typed lol and no popped up. DS Pilots are the whiniest bitches right after scouts and tankers. I fucken love destroying them. Even blue ones. I shot a few of my own teams DS down in ambush this afternoon. Your an assnole then Ads pilots complain because so many things are op against them Forges, I 3 shot ads Ramming exploit, totally unfair Tap mcc 1 mph and die Way too high of an price, should be as or cheaper than tanks you're Idc, this is the interwebz I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears



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