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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:05:00 -
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I am not saying that the Amarr Scout as a SUIT is bad, it isn't; the slot layout is amazing leading to many diverse fits.
What I am saying is that comparatively to the other scout suits, the Amarr Scout is complete and utter terribad garbage TRASH.
Caldari - Can see all which is useful for allowing a SCOUT to pick and choose his/her battles
Gallente - Can't be seen which is useful for allowing a SCOUT to pick and choose his/her battles
Minmatar - Hack speed bonus, in short, the ENTIRE OBJECTIVE OF THE DAMNED GAME, HACKING THINGS
Amarr - Stamina pool and recovery, good for still running slower than everyone else and not being able to go further than the other scouts. We have graphs proving this.
Even with profile dampeners, Cal Scouts can see me. Even with precision enhancers, other scouts sneak up on me, Even when I need to hack or move quickly, Min scouts hack quicker, and all the scouts move faster.
Yeah I'm mad and I challenge someone to give me a GOOD and SOLID positive of the Amarr scout that it has over any of the other scouts BESIDES brick tanking to have high eHP.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:12:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:5% to ScP RoF.....
Preferably some sort of EWAR bonus.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:22:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:They should remove all armor speed penalties for the AmScout.
That would shoehorn people into using armor plates over other modules.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:42:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I am not saying that the Amarr Scout as a SUIT is bad, it isn't; the slot layout is amazing leading to many diverse fits.
What I am saying is that comparatively to the other scout suits, the Amarr Scout is complete and utter terribad garbage TRASH.
Caldari - Can see all which is useful for allowing a SCOUT to pick and choose his/her battles
Gallente - Can't be seen which is useful for allowing a SCOUT to pick and choose his/her battles
Minmatar - Hack speed bonus, in short, the ENTIRE OBJECTIVE OF THE DAMNED GAME, HACKING THINGS
Amarr - Stamina pool and recovery, good for still running slower than everyone else and not being able to go further than the other scouts. We have graphs proving this.
Even with profile dampeners, Cal Scouts can see me. Even with precision enhancers, other scouts sneak up on me, Even when I need to hack or move quickly, Min scouts hack quicker, and all the scouts move faster.
Yeah I'm mad and I challenge someone to give me a GOOD and SOLID positive of the Amarr scout that it has over any of the other scouts BESIDES brick tanking to have high eHP.
I'd be happy with a bonus that reduces heat build up for the ScR. Or an increase in mag capacity for ScP. My Amarr weapons are the best. But only with the OHR bonus.
Personally, I feel the overheat bonus should go to all Amarr suits as a standard.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:43:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:A scout should have a dmg resistance of 1% per level totally 5%. I think that is very fair and is in line with the Amarr's way of tech.
YES YES YES YES YES! A resistance bonus would be amazing.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:50:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You guys also have more health than us. Why do Amarr Scouts always leave that part out?
Only thing that would be cooler is if the bonus gave a little more than currently, but not enough to make it OP to running 600 with faster stamina regen than a minmatar.
You clearly didn't read the OP.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:15:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:well to start out it is a scout so it gets all that the class provides: speed, low sig, high precision, 50% longer base scan range, the smallest hitbox and can cloak viably. it has the same slot layout as a Gal scout with more CPU allowing for more divers fits and has higher base armor.
it's not out of the realm of possibility for it to get under the raider of a cal scouts p scan. one complex damp and a cloak lets it beat a triple precision cal.
you can show me all the charts and graphs you want, but you're under selling the stamina bonus. max kin cats and feroscale plates work like a charm for me.
IDK it's whatever you can make out of it. out of all the scouts it is the best for straight combat. think of it as a slightly weaker assault with two equipment slots.
Ok, well tell CCP to rename it to the Amarr Light Assault, oh wait, it's called the Amarr SCOUT.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nuuu I love my tank chaser fit.
What I'm saying is either drop the stamina pool or the recharge bonus while keeping the other then giving it another bonus such as resistance or a weapon ROF bonus since it seems the Amarr scout is simply a light assault.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:02:00 -
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tander09 wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:They should remove all armor speed penalties for the AmScout. That would shoehorn people into using armor plates over other modules. Amarr are tankers!
It's a scout suit, not assault remember?
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:19:00 -
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fixitgd wrote:5% Range per level to keep in line with ewar and tech. Considering their weapons are for medium range combat.
Weapon range, or scan range?
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:fixitgd wrote:5% Range per level to keep in line with ewar and tech. Considering their weapons are for medium range combat. Weapon range, or scan range? Weapon range would be overpowered, and doesn't the Caldari already have a bonus to Scan Range?
That's why I asked
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:31:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:you really think ammar has it worse then minmatar suits?
Yes.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:57:00 -
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Cotsy wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I am not saying that the Amarr Scout as a SUIT is bad, it isn't; the slot layout is amazing leading to many diverse fits.
What I am saying is that comparatively to the other scout suits, the Amarr Scout is complete and utter terribad garbage TRASH.
Caldari - Can see all which is useful for allowing a SCOUT to pick and choose his/her battles
Gallente - Can't be seen which is useful for allowing a SCOUT to pick and choose his/her battles
Minmatar - Hack speed bonus, in short, the ENTIRE OBJECTIVE OF THE DAMNED GAME, HACKING THINGS
Amarr - Stamina pool and recovery, good for still running slower than everyone else and not being able to go further than the other scouts. We have graphs proving this.
Even with profile dampeners, Cal Scouts can see me. Even with precision enhancers, other scouts sneak up on me, Even when I need to hack or move quickly, Min scouts hack quicker, and all the scouts move faster.
Yeah I'm mad and I challenge someone to give me a GOOD and SOLID positive of the Amarr scout that it has over any of the other scouts BESIDES brick tanking to have high eHP.
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Since it is apparent the Amarr scout is really an assault suit in disguise, my proposed bonus is a weapon ROF bonus. You're arguments are a joke. There is no disputing that the Cal and Gal are a superior choice but the Amarr is the superior choice to the Min. So, again, like the other 100 post you've made, your opinion is wrong, it's not based on facts, it's based on you wanting the best scout. The idea that an Amarr can't be stealth is a pure joke, you have 3 low at adv and 4 lows at Proto. It's perfectly acceptable and reasonable to use 2 dampeners if you want to play the stones the game. You want to argue which class is suppose to be CQC Knifing and then had less ability to play dampening game than Amarr? You want to argue about the restrictions of the Min class vs the non restrictions of the Amarr?! Youre chasing OP bonus for your class, instead of being reasonable and demanding a complex version of the current one. You change your proposal every week it seems, i dont mind a rof but Amare weapons dont need it except for maybe on scrambler to go back to OP ness
Hop on over to Aero's thread about anything Amarr Scout can do, Gal Scout can do better and learn something brotato chip. Also, people agree with me so I must be on to something eh?
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:12:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:Joel II X wrote:You guys also have more health than us. Why do Amarr Scouts always leave that part out?
Only thing that would be cooler is if the bonus gave a little more than currently, but not enough to make it OP to running 600 with faster stamina regen than a minmatar. I could' ve sworn the gallente scout can pack more health and still be passively invisible?
IT CAN, thus my OP.
Yes, as a standalone suit, the Amarr Scout is very nice, but compared to the other scout suits, it is complete trash.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:18:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Reduction on the cloak cooldown (the originally proposed bonus). Same cloak uptime, less cloak downtime. I think this is fair, a "scouty" bonus and makes sense for the class. Amarr scouts are heavily dependent on cloaks for survivability moreso than the other scouts, which have ewar and speed.
I'd be fine with that
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