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Glantix Karmic-Snow
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:16:00 -
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I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow |
Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
634
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:23:00 -
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Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:blah blah
But could you interrupt the Shield Regen or was it always active?
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
642
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:29:00 -
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wait wait wait, youre saying the saga II still roles with pre 1.7 mechanics?
and i didnt notice?
well, fuuck driving tanks, back to murder taxi'ing
Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4578
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:56:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Also, the shield rep does not stop when damage is taken - it continues through. You rep through all damage. That's the truth strength of the Saga-II right now.
And when CCP fixes that, you'll be right about what you're saying, but until then, SAGA II FTW! :3
You're saying the Saga II can't have its shield regen interrupted? It's working on the old Regen model? Yes, I am. It's the single reason the Saga II is the way it is. I implore all the LAV guys to try it out.
And I run a corp guys, I have too many channels, otherwise I would love too - I am a dedicated LAVer, just not much SP into it. Doesn't require it.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4579
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:04:00 -
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Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank?
I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead.
Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O
and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability.
If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1320
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:07:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank? I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead. Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability. If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed. Saga 2 60+ -20% to rails
I <3 girl gamers
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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DozersMouse XIII
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
545
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:07:00 -
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I bought 500 of the saga II when CCP threw them on the market for 15k isk
back then rainbows shot out of its ass then you hit the built in module
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4579
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:08:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank? I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead. Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability. If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed. Saga 2 60+ -20% to rails Doesn't that still mean 80% resistance to shields?
I promise you guys, Saga II cannot be one shotted by the strongest weapon in this game, and it's easy to get out of danger for instant reps. It's the murder taxi heaven-mobile.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Glantix Karmic-Snow
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:27:00 -
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@ Foundation
My shields could be easily disrupted, another downside to the Saga II.
@ Sota Pop
Dude, the Methana has more health than the Saga II, and I know from experience that the Hardener means next to nothing on the Saga II because your shields are gone in the first hit from a militia rail, so the Methana actually has a better chance of surviving than the Saga II. And before you say that Shields resist rails, Foundation made a point earlier in the thread saying that the Rail damage bonus is reverse what it should be, and it does more damage to shields. I have been one shot in my Saga II before from a Breach Forge Gun, not to mention a Triple Damage Modded Rail shot.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
644
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Posted - 2014.04.29 04:11:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank? I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead. Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability. If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed. Saga 2 60+ -20% to rails Doesn't that still mean 80% resistance to shields? I promise you guys, Saga II cannot be one shotted by the strongest weapon in this game, and it's easy to get out of danger for instant reps. It's the murder taxi heaven-mobile.
just blew a wad of SP to get this beauty.
the thing literally poops rainbows as you zoom around driving over people, popping outta it to shoot tanks and laugh as they die trying to kill it.
it makes the mona lisa look like finger paint it such a work of art
Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1321
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Posted - 2014.04.29 04:12:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank? I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead. Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability. If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed. Saga 2 60+ -20% to rails Doesn't that still mean 80% resistance to shields? I promise you guys, Saga II cannot be one shotted by the strongest weapon in this game, and it's easy to get out of danger for instant reps. It's the murder taxi heaven-mobile. No Large and small rails do bonus dmg to shields Glitches ftw
I <3 girl gamers
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4579
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Posted - 2014.04.29 04:48:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank? I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead. Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability. If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed. Saga 2 60+ -20% to rails Doesn't that still mean 80% resistance to shields? I promise you guys, Saga II cannot be one shotted by the strongest weapon in this game, and it's easy to get out of danger for instant reps. It's the murder taxi heaven-mobile. No Large and small rails do bonus dmg to shields Glitches ftw wow, so when they fix this I'm going to be even more OP?
Awesome. :3
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4579
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Posted - 2014.04.29 04:57:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Glantix Karmic-Snow wrote:I started writing my previous reply when this topic was first up but didn't actually get around to finishing it until an hour later, and it appears in the time I was gone a Saga II vs Methana argument occurred.
To input my .02 isk, the Methana is far better.
I was a dedicated Saga II rider, and probably used it more than a lot of people in LAV Research, and it just can't compare to the survivability of the Methana.
I was frequently losing isk most games to to rail tanks getting a shot off with before I could activate my Hardener. At that point it is a matter of luck to see if I can dodge the second hit. If I couldn't, then well, that's it.
So in the end, the Methana is better in every aspect, minus its ability to Road-Kill.
Sincerely, Glantix / Snow Can you prevent your Methana from being 1 hit by a proto rail x3 dmg modded tank? I believe you guys can reach, what, 3.5k armor? 900 shields? It will do much then 4k damage to you, 900 x 25% resistance to rail = your LAV is dead. Saga II - 60% + 25% resistant to rails. O.O and blasters can't damage through shield rep without damage mods, and they need to keep DPS on you for a good 5 seconds to get into danger, and there weapon will likely over-heat. Proto Blaster, maybe, depends how far he glass cannoned for DPS - blasters tend to focus on survivability. If I'm wrong, please point it out. Now I'm interested in this "LAV" community I had no idea existed. Saga 2 60+ -20% to rails Doesn't that still mean 80% resistance to shields? I promise you guys, Saga II cannot be one shotted by the strongest weapon in this game, and it's easy to get out of danger for instant reps. It's the murder taxi heaven-mobile. just blew a wad of SP to get this beauty. the thing literally poops rainbows as you zoom around driving over people, popping outta it to shoot tanks and laugh as they die trying to kill it. it makes the mona lisa look like finger paint it such a work of art A lot of tanks see a murder taxi with a forger pop out and aim for LAV first.
Do that with us, you'll die with no WP again.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
503
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Posted - 2014.04.29 04:57:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:Woah, thank god I bought hundreds of these things. Murder Taxi 2.0 here I come.
It's a good thin I speced into proto proxies...
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4579
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:09:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:Woah, thank god I bought hundreds of these things. Murder Taxi 2.0 here I come. It's a good thin I speced into proto proxies... Soon RE's and tank spam will be our only counter.
Prepare for the murder taxi QQ threads. I have opened the flood gate.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Ld Collins
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
132
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:34:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Seriously, it isn't. It's perfect, right on the money. A triple damage modded rail tank can't even kill it, and if the drivers smart, it's even harder, terrain works in favor of speed and a smart player. And that shield rep? To die for.
Incase you guys are wondering why the Saga II is op - The build in harden gives 60% resistance to all damage for shields. Throw on one complex shield extender, you've got yourself a new Logi-LAV.
I hadn't planned on sharing this - but I wouldn't mind seeing more LAV's out there letting tanks know they're about as scary to us as Minmatar Heavy.
For those who spec further into it - maybe you can actually use the low slot - I can't, but don't need it. The Saga II isn't OP the Methana can be just as hardy I run a scanner and a heavy armor rep with a proto blaster its nearly impossible to blow my lav up. I wish people would stop crying op every time something doesn't go their way. |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4580
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:36:00 -
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Your Methana has more health - how's that working for you guys? When you see a DNS corp tanker on the other side, you know they're going to be hunting down for every WP To grind, which mean LAV'ers are not safe from there rails.
And that's when I started looking for a solution. And one night, I decided to get the Saga II thinking built in means I'd still have 2 high slots - I was wrong. I raged. Called the SAGA II dirt, and never used it for 2 weeks.
Then, I did.
That's when the hate mail started ROLLING in. I beat my old record of 4 hate mails couple weeks ago, 5 in one game, all call me a cheating hacker, that no LAV could POSSIBLE survive all that.
But it does, and it's amazing, and you're telling me it should be even STRONGER because of broken mechanics??
Looks like LAV murder Taxi's are here to stay
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4580
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:37:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seriously, it isn't. It's perfect, right on the money. A triple damage modded rail tank can't even kill it, and if the drivers smart, it's even harder, terrain works in favor of speed and a smart player. And that shield rep? To die for.
Incase you guys are wondering why the Saga II is op - The build in harden gives 60% resistance to all damage for shields. Throw on one complex shield extender, you've got yourself a new Logi-LAV.
I hadn't planned on sharing this - but I wouldn't mind seeing more LAV's out there letting tanks know they're about as scary to us as Minmatar Heavy.
For those who spec further into it - maybe you can actually use the low slot - I can't, but don't need it. The Saga II isn't OP the Methana can be just as hardy I run a scanner and a heavy armor rep with a proto blaster its nearly impossible to blow my lav up. I wish people would stop crying op every time something doesn't go their way. You can be one shotted no matter how you set it up, sadly.
At least at the same SP cost the Saga II costs, it requires much more SP to get Methana where the Saga II is almost naturally. Just need proto shield extender.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Ld Collins
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:41:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Your Methana has more health - how's that working for you guys? When you see a DNS corp tanker on the other side, you know they're going to be hunting down for every WP To grind, which mean LAV'ers are not safe from there rails.
And that's when I started looking for a solution. And one night, I decided to get the Saga II thinking built in means I'd still have 2 high slots - I was wrong. I raged. Called the SAGA II dirt, and never used it for 2 weeks.
Then, I did.
That's when the hate mail started ROLLING in. I beat my old record of 4 hate mails couple weeks ago, 5 in one game, all call me a cheating hacker, that no LAV could POSSIBLE survive all that.
But it does, and it's amazing, and you're telling me it should be even STRONGER because of broken mechanics??
Looks like LAV murder Taxi's are here to stay The methana is working pretty nicely i get hit with railguns i escape i get hit with forge guns i just stand there and kill the forger unless i get ran over by a tank or shot off the turret thats the only way I die. running scans lets me see proxy mines so that's not even an issue. I have maxed rotation so poor scouts trying to ambush me with shotguns go down before they can get in range. Why do scouts cloak when they are spotted and bunny hop as if they can't be seen. |
Ld Collins
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:44:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ld Collins wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seriously, it isn't. It's perfect, right on the money. A triple damage modded rail tank can't even kill it, and if the drivers smart, it's even harder, terrain works in favor of speed and a smart player. And that shield rep? To die for.
Incase you guys are wondering why the Saga II is op - The build in harden gives 60% resistance to all damage for shields. Throw on one complex shield extender, you've got yourself a new Logi-LAV.
I hadn't planned on sharing this - but I wouldn't mind seeing more LAV's out there letting tanks know they're about as scary to us as Minmatar Heavy.
For those who spec further into it - maybe you can actually use the low slot - I can't, but don't need it. The Saga II isn't OP the Methana can be just as hardy I run a scanner and a heavy armor rep with a proto blaster its nearly impossible to blow my lav up. I wish people would stop crying op every time something doesn't go their way. You can be one shotted no matter how you set it up, sadly. At least at the same SP cost the Saga II costs, it requires much more SP to get Methana where the Saga II is almost naturally. Just need proto shield extender. I guess if I decided i was just gonna stand still and get shot but 9 times out of 10 it doesn't happen. If i see a rail tank i just drive around it in circles then escape :-). |
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1249
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:45:00 -
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No point arguing wit Sota. He's made up his mind and won't budge from it no matter what anybody says. And besides he's the cool kid so everybody just better believe him.
Anyway, I think it's time to fire up my Methana once again!
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4580
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:45:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Your Methana has more health - how's that working for you guys? When you see a DNS corp tanker on the other side, you know they're going to be hunting down for every WP To grind, which mean LAV'ers are not safe from there rails.
And that's when I started looking for a solution. And one night, I decided to get the Saga II thinking built in means I'd still have 2 high slots - I was wrong. I raged. Called the SAGA II dirt, and never used it for 2 weeks.
Then, I did.
That's when the hate mail started ROLLING in. I beat my old record of 4 hate mails couple weeks ago, 5 in one game, all call me a cheating hacker, that no LAV could POSSIBLE survive all that.
But it does, and it's amazing, and you're telling me it should be even STRONGER because of broken mechanics??
Looks like LAV murder Taxi's are here to stay The methana is working pretty nicely i get hit with railguns i escape i get hit with forge guns i just stand there and kill the forger unless i get ran over by a tank or shot off the turret thats the only way I die. running scans lets me see proxy mines so that's not even an issue. I have maxed rotation so poor scouts trying to ambush me with shotguns go down before they can get in range. Why do scouts cloak when they are spotted and bunny hop as if they can't be seen. lol ikr? I love it when people circle around my LAV trying to use it as cover too, all you do is jump and and drive backwards, jump out, finish the job.
My last match last night I popped my harder and mowed down 3 guys while a rail tank over-heated trying to kill my LAV that was standing still as I slaughter berries.
Are, people trying to say Methana is comparable to such a beast vehicle????
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4580
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
Repe Susi wrote:No point arguing wit Sota. He's made up his mind and won't budge from it.
Anyway, I think it's time to fire up my Methana once again! Hf being one shotted.
I've asked for even audible evidence to say a Methana can survive a triple stack damage rail shot, or can handle the abuse mine can. No one has said that it can, so I will continue to assume Saga II is superior.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Ld Collins
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
134
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ld Collins wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Your Methana has more health - how's that working for you guys? When you see a DNS corp tanker on the other side, you know they're going to be hunting down for every WP To grind, which mean LAV'ers are not safe from there rails.
And that's when I started looking for a solution. And one night, I decided to get the Saga II thinking built in means I'd still have 2 high slots - I was wrong. I raged. Called the SAGA II dirt, and never used it for 2 weeks.
Then, I did.
That's when the hate mail started ROLLING in. I beat my old record of 4 hate mails couple weeks ago, 5 in one game, all call me a cheating hacker, that no LAV could POSSIBLE survive all that.
But it does, and it's amazing, and you're telling me it should be even STRONGER because of broken mechanics??
Looks like LAV murder Taxi's are here to stay The methana is working pretty nicely i get hit with railguns i escape i get hit with forge guns i just stand there and kill the forger unless i get ran over by a tank or shot off the turret thats the only way I die. running scans lets me see proxy mines so that's not even an issue. I have maxed rotation so poor scouts trying to ambush me with shotguns go down before they can get in range. Why do scouts cloak when they are spotted and bunny hop as if they can't be seen. lol ikr? I love it when people circle around my LAV trying to use it as cover too, all you do is jump and and drive backwards, jump out, finish the job. My last match last night I popped my harder and moved down 3 guys while a rail tank over-heated trying to kill my LAV that was standing still as I slaughter berries. Are, people trying to say Methana is comparable to such a beast vehicle????
I'd say so I have both I use both and the scanner on my methana gives me my invincibility and the hardner on my saga increases my survival with its stealth hardener. I wouldn't even bother with a shield extender I'll add a damage mod 1 shot infantry and blow up tanks with it. Yes I said blow up tanks with it. Oh and also dropships. |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4581
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:53:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ld Collins wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Your Methana has more health - how's that working for you guys? When you see a DNS corp tanker on the other side, you know they're going to be hunting down for every WP To grind, which mean LAV'ers are not safe from there rails.
And that's when I started looking for a solution. And one night, I decided to get the Saga II thinking built in means I'd still have 2 high slots - I was wrong. I raged. Called the SAGA II dirt, and never used it for 2 weeks.
Then, I did.
That's when the hate mail started ROLLING in. I beat my old record of 4 hate mails couple weeks ago, 5 in one game, all call me a cheating hacker, that no LAV could POSSIBLE survive all that.
But it does, and it's amazing, and you're telling me it should be even STRONGER because of broken mechanics??
Looks like LAV murder Taxi's are here to stay The methana is working pretty nicely i get hit with railguns i escape i get hit with forge guns i just stand there and kill the forger unless i get ran over by a tank or shot off the turret thats the only way I die. running scans lets me see proxy mines so that's not even an issue. I have maxed rotation so poor scouts trying to ambush me with shotguns go down before they can get in range. Why do scouts cloak when they are spotted and bunny hop as if they can't be seen. lol ikr? I love it when people circle around my LAV trying to use it as cover too, all you do is jump and and drive backwards, jump out, finish the job. My last match last night I popped my harder and moved down 3 guys while a rail tank over-heated trying to kill my LAV that was standing still as I slaughter berries. Are, people trying to say Methana is comparable to such a beast vehicle???? Id say so i have both i use both and the scanner on my methana gives me my invincibility and the hardner on my saga increases my survival with its stealth hardener. I wouldn't even bother with a shield extender I'll add a damage mod 1 shot infantry and blow up tanks with it. I'm getting proto small rails next - I'm really excited to see what potential I can pump out of this car. Small rails sorta rock house. Especially against heavies. But, really, just want something to troll dropships with that keep trying to hunt me down lol
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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
142
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:55:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Seriously, it isn't. It's perfect, right on the money. A triple damage modded rail tank can't even kill it, and if the drivers smart, it's even harder, terrain works in favor of speed and a smart player. And that shield rep? To die for.
Incase you guys are wondering why the Saga II is op - The build in harden gives 60% resistance to all damage for shields. Throw on one complex shield extender, you've got yourself a new Logi-LAV.
I hadn't planned on sharing this - but I wouldn't mind seeing more LAV's out there letting tanks know they're about as scary to us as Minmatar Heavy.
For those who spec further into it - maybe you can actually use the low slot - I can't, but don't need it.
While I share your enthusiasm, you can 1 shot it with a proto rail with 1 dmg mod. But, nevertheless. Yes Sota, I agree.
Possibly the best around.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4581
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:58:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seriously, it isn't. It's perfect, right on the money. A triple damage modded rail tank can't even kill it, and if the drivers smart, it's even harder, terrain works in favor of speed and a smart player. And that shield rep? To die for.
Incase you guys are wondering why the Saga II is op - The build in harden gives 60% resistance to all damage for shields. Throw on one complex shield extender, you've got yourself a new Logi-LAV.
I hadn't planned on sharing this - but I wouldn't mind seeing more LAV's out there letting tanks know they're about as scary to us as Minmatar Heavy.
For those who spec further into it - maybe you can actually use the low slot - I can't, but don't need it. While I share your enthusiasm, you can 1 shot it with a proto rail with 1 dmg mod. But, nevertheless. Yes Sota, I agree. Nope, burns, care to bet? 50mil you can't one shot. We'll test it the next red-line PC we get. Or you could ask the other tankers- they've all tried already. :D
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Ld Collins
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.29 05:58:00 -
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I'll give you fair warning if the server is laggy your gonna have a bad time because the shots wont register. You also need your rotation speed leveled up and reload skills. If you are really a dare devil put two damage mods on a saga with a rail. You need a crazy driver though. |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4583
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:03:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:I'll give you fair warning if the server is laggy your gonna have a bad time because the shots wont register. You also need your rotation speed leveled up and reload skills. If you are really a dare devil put two damage mods on a saga with a rail. You need a crazy driver though. Other than a heavy jumping out of it with a forge gun I don't see any real concern you could always just run that ***** over. yea I hear, people always on my turret anyways, may as well give em a toy to play with.
And I'm the craziest driver in the game - running circles around tanks for lolz.
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Starfire Revo
DUST University Ivy League
213
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Posted - 2014.04.29 09:00:00 -
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SoTa, would you care to join me for a drive around the country sometime?
I make videos of EVE and Dust http://www.youtube.com/mrgimbleb
I write about EVE and Dust http://mrgimbleb.blogspot.com
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