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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:37:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:pagl1u M wrote:No to the ammo bonus.. Just, no! Come on it has to be usefull, how does more ammo help you when almost every suit is better than you at killing you?
The rof bonus would be wonderful if it wasnt for amarrs, the ScR wouldnt be affected... More dmg is just a copy of the commando's bonus.. I also dislike the idea of more grenades cause not every assault abuse of nades, I want to be the best at using my weapons, not at throwing nades.
What about an equip (only for assaults) that works like cloak (you have to attivate it and has a capacitor) and helps you in battle with for example: more dmg, more shields/armor, shield booster (like the vehicle module). I mean you could choose different kinds of this equipment and have different bonuses. How is more ammo not helpful? Seriously. If you're so worried about everyone else being so much better at killing you, why aren't you running with your squad composed of a mix of Dropsuits? @Heimdallr69 AFAIK, PC is determined by the Weapon of Choice so it is no wonder that grenades aren't used there. Why fight when we can blue up and farm Isk? Clones come from nowhere and go to nowhere, leaving Isk in their wake. Yay Riskfree Isk. Also, you're DNS so you get no opinion. Lmfao nice.. I'm trying to be helpful but if you really want to play this game I will troll the hell out of GD..
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Killer's Coys
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:23:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:Django Quik wrote:The main problem with assaults is that they still haven't had their slots/stats redone for the 1.8 balance pass.
Once that's done, the next problem is that their racial bonuses only really apply to one or two weapons and this is far too restrictive. The racial bonuses should enhance the race's combat style, not just their race's weapons. My thoughts are for caldari's bonus to be to range, minmatar clip size, gallente ROF and amarr damage - not dead set on the gallente or amarr ones but open to suggestions. These bonuses should affect ALL weapons but only be very small amounts - 2% per level seems about right.
The role bonus is fine but maybe the fittings reduction could also apply to damage mods?
I say no to anything that continues to force specific gear on certain suits - that kills diversity and that's what this game is supposed to be all about. Hmmm... So you want we choose our assault suit with the racial bonus ? It's not choose with the weapon but with the kill bonus of the suit... It's not good I think... A same bonus for all assault, it will be good Your phrasing in this response is difficult to understand. What I'm saying is that assault racial bonuses should apply to more than just one or two weapons - they should apply to ALL weapons. You shouldn't be forced to use one specific weapon because you're using a particular suit. You shouldn't be forced to use one specific suit because you're using a particular weapon. You might as well make it so the weapon and suit come together and that would be just plain dumb.
Sorry if you can't understand me... I'm French, so it's not easu for me to speak English.. Try to speak French, and you'll be able to criticize me lol So, yes, I tried to say : I want a bonus (like "2% RoF" or "2% damage") FOR ALL ASSAULT FOR ALL LIGHT/SIDEARM WEAPON. Is it more easy to understand ? I try, lol |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:pagl1u M wrote:No to the ammo bonus.. Just, no! Come on it has to be usefull, how does more ammo help you when almost every suit is better than you at killing you?
The rof bonus would be wonderful if it wasnt for amarrs, the ScR wouldnt be affected... More dmg is just a copy of the commando's bonus.. I also dislike the idea of more grenades cause not every assault abuse of nades, I want to be the best at using my weapons, not at throwing nades.
What about an equip (only for assaults) that works like cloak (you have to attivate it and has a capacitor) and helps you in battle with for example: more dmg, more shields/armor, shield booster (like the vehicle module). I mean you could choose different kinds of this equipment and have different bonuses. How is more ammo not helpful? Seriously. If you're so worried about everyone else being so much better at killing you, why aren't you running with your squad composed of a mix of Dropsuits? @Heimdallr69 AFAIK, PC is determined by the Weapon of Choice so it is no wonder that grenades aren't used there. Why fight when we can blue up and farm Isk? Clones come from nowhere and go to nowhere, leaving Isk in their wake. Yay Riskfree Isk. Also, you're DNS so you get no opinion. Lmfao nice.. I'm trying to be helpful but if you really want to play this game I will troll the hell out of GD.. Hate to say it but my opinion is more valid than yours.. I run cal ass and logi I use both in PC.. Nades kill more friendlies then enemies so no one uses them, a few still run flux's. So the question is what do we want? A suit balanced for PC or pubs? If pubs then yeah give it that nade slot and it'll never be useful in PC. lol, your opinion is more valid than mine but you don't even fully comprehend what I proposed?
I didn't say extra slots, I said extra nades, similar to how I suggested Assaults should be able to carry more ammo.
Might I suggest you brush up on reading comprehension?
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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Killer's Coys
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:19:00 -
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Lol guys, be quiet We are here to find a solution for the assault, not to fight haha :) He juste said that he think the ammo bonus is useless in PC, he's not wrong. Each bonus can be good or bad for each situation. Anyway, we proose, but, it's CCP who choose |
Stevilovitche
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:40:00 -
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Killer!!!!!!
Les anglophones ne sont pas tres comprehensifs avec les fran+ºais , je trouve.
I like the idea of 2 grenade slots and RoF.
I'm scout lol, I let you talk between Assaults |
Killer's Coys
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:27:00 -
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lol c'est vrai quoi :p Qu'ils essayent de parler fran+ºais et on verra apr+¿s ! Moi j'ai le n+¬erlandais en + +á connaitre ^^
Anyway, NEED BUFF. Done. (2% RoF please :') ) |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
983
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:34:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:OP's post So, what you're saying is every weapon except Laser Rifles and the normal Scrambler Rifle will benefit from this. The LR already has a "High RoF" (It's taunted as a continuous beam, but we all know it's not otherwise more people would be dying to it.). The Scrambler Rifle already has a ridiculously high RoF, but the overheat means you have to do bursts. The Scrambler Rifle and Laser Rifle would see no benefits to your bonus which would shaft Amarr weapon users over. I excluded the AScR because with an increased RoF it would gain benefit. Quote:If you ~really~ want chrome LRs back that badly I guess I could oblige ya Twisted Chrome LRs had a 1,000+ RoF? I remember the problem being the ridiculous range and high damage output. (21 dmg/s+overheat) As you say, the laser does actually have a RoF, so it would benefit from the bonus.
ScR would not really benefit but neither would the regular CR. So both Ama and Min would have weapons that don't really benefit from the bonus, though they would have more weapons that do (LR, AScR, MD, ACR).
It seems like an okay idea. |
Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:51:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:pagl1u M wrote:No to the ammo bonus.. Just, no! Come on it has to be usefull, how does more ammo help you when almost every suit is better than you at killing you?
The rof bonus would be wonderful if it wasnt for amarrs, the ScR wouldnt be affected... More dmg is just a copy of the commando's bonus.. I also dislike the idea of more grenades cause not every assault abuse of nades, I want to be the best at using my weapons, not at throwing nades.
What about an equip (only for assaults) that works like cloak (you have to attivate it and has a capacitor) and helps you in battle with for example: more dmg, more shields/armor, shield booster (like the vehicle module). I mean you could choose different kinds of this equipment and have different bonuses. How is more ammo not helpful? Seriously. If you're so worried about everyone else being so much better at killing you, why aren't you running with your squad composed of a mix of Dropsuits? @Heimdallr69 AFAIK, PC is determined by the Weapon of Choice so it is no wonder that grenades aren't used there. Why fight when we can blue up and farm Isk? Clones come from nowhere and go to nowhere, leaving Isk in their wake. Yay Riskfree Isk. Also, you're DNS so you get no opinion. Lmfao nice.. I'm trying to be helpful but if you really want to play this game I will troll the hell out of GD.. Hate to say it but my opinion is more valid than yours.. I run cal ass and logi I use both in PC.. Nades kill more friendlies then enemies so no one uses them, a few still run flux's. So the question is what do we want? A suit balanced for PC or pubs? If pubs then yeah give it that nade slot and it'll never be useful in PC. lol, your opinion is more valid than mine but you don't even fully comprehend what I proposed? I didn't say extra slots, I said extra nades, similar to how I suggested Assaults should be able to carry more ammo. Might I suggest you brush up on reading comprehension? I know what you meant but no matter how you put it it's useless in PC. Now instead of feeding me your tears let's actually try to come up with a legit solution that is good for pubs and PC. There could be a DMG bonus rof, range, trade logis their highs/lows.. Bonus for strafing speed, shield bonus for cal/min armor for gal/amarr .. While keeping their current bonus.
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Killer's Coys
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:22:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:pagl1u M wrote:No to the ammo bonus.. Just, no! Come on it has to be usefull, how does more ammo help you when almost every suit is better than you at killing you?
The rof bonus would be wonderful if it wasnt for amarrs, the ScR wouldnt be affected... More dmg is just a copy of the commando's bonus.. I also dislike the idea of more grenades cause not every assault abuse of nades, I want to be the best at using my weapons, not at throwing nades.
What about an equip (only for assaults) that works like cloak (you have to attivate it and has a capacitor) and helps you in battle with for example: more dmg, more shields/armor, shield booster (like the vehicle module). I mean you could choose different kinds of this equipment and have different bonuses. How is more ammo not helpful? Seriously. If you're so worried about everyone else being so much better at killing you, why aren't you running with your squad composed of a mix of Dropsuits? @Heimdallr69 AFAIK, PC is determined by the Weapon of Choice so it is no wonder that grenades aren't used there. Why fight when we can blue up and farm Isk? Clones come from nowhere and go to nowhere, leaving Isk in their wake. Yay Riskfree Isk. Also, you're DNS so you get no opinion. Lmfao nice.. I'm trying to be helpful but if you really want to play this game I will troll the hell out of GD.. Hate to say it but my opinion is more valid than yours.. I run cal ass and logi I use both in PC.. Nades kill more friendlies then enemies so no one uses them, a few still run flux's. So the question is what do we want? A suit balanced for PC or pubs? If pubs then yeah give it that nade slot and it'll never be useful in PC. lol, your opinion is more valid than mine but you don't even fully comprehend what I proposed? I didn't say extra slots, I said extra nades, similar to how I suggested Assaults should be able to carry more ammo. Might I suggest you brush up on reading comprehension? I know what you meant but no matter how you put it it's useless in PC. Now instead of feeding me your tears let's actually try to come up with a legit solution that is good for pubs and PC. There could be a DMG bonus rof, range, trade logis their highs/lows.. Bonus for strafing speed, shield bonus for cal/min armor for gal/amarr .. While keeping their current bonus.
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