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RA Drahcir
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:28:00 -
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I still feel like it is a coin toss between the two. I like having 2 kin cats and 2 reps on my Gal, also having both damage resist for armor. The extra 5% damage resist to projectiles and 4.35% extra DPS for a second dmg mod and higher base armor is really tempting...the thing is which is to be sacrificed in lows? The second armor rep or kin cat?
Speed tanking is my go to for heavies but the option to go back to the bread and butter of heavies, stacking complex armor plates and running with a logi on my as s, is a must. |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
4525
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:32:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:I still feel like it is a coin toss between the two. I like having 2 kin cats and 2 reps on my Gal, also having both damage resist for armor. The extra 5% damage resist to projectiles and 4.35% extra DPS for a second dmg mod and higher base armor is really tempting...the thing is which is to be sacrificed in lows? The second armor rep or kin cat?
Speed tanking is my go to for heavies but the option to go back to the bread and butter of heavies, stacking complex armor plates and running with a logi on my as s, is a must.
Go Amarr if you think you'll be fighting mostly other heavies.
If you want versatility, though, go with Galante. It offers more over-all. High slots suck. Lol
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
Proficiency V.
171
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:16:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I still feel like it is a coin toss between the two. I like having 2 kin cats and 2 reps on my Gal, also having both damage resist for armor. The extra 5% damage resist to projectiles and 4.35% extra DPS for a second dmg mod and higher base armor is really tempting...the thing is which is to be sacrificed in lows? The second armor rep or kin cat?
Speed tanking is my go to for heavies but the option to go back to the bread and butter of heavies, stacking complex armor plates and running with a logi on my as s, is a must. Go Amarr if you think you'll be fighting mostly other heavies. If you want versatility, though, go with Galante. It offers more over-all. High slots suck. Lol
I just looked at your corp name. Y U Use da English name?
Shoulda done "Sora no Otoshimono".
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
4531
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:25:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I still feel like it is a coin toss between the two. I like having 2 kin cats and 2 reps on my Gal, also having both damage resist for armor. The extra 5% damage resist to projectiles and 4.35% extra DPS for a second dmg mod and higher base armor is really tempting...the thing is which is to be sacrificed in lows? The second armor rep or kin cat?
Speed tanking is my go to for heavies but the option to go back to the bread and butter of heavies, stacking complex armor plates and running with a logi on my as s, is a must. Go Amarr if you think you'll be fighting mostly other heavies. If you want versatility, though, go with Galante. It offers more over-all. High slots suck. Lol I just looked at your corp name. Y U Use da English name? Shoulda done "Sora no Otoshimono".
Because this makes more sense to english readers, it would seem to foreign and less appealing otherwise.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3064
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:36:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I still feel like it is a coin toss between the two. I like having 2 kin cats and 2 reps on my Gal, also having both damage resist for armor. The extra 5% damage resist to projectiles and 4.35% extra DPS for a second dmg mod and higher base armor is really tempting...the thing is which is to be sacrificed in lows? The second armor rep or kin cat?
Speed tanking is my go to for heavies but the option to go back to the bread and butter of heavies, stacking complex armor plates and running with a logi on my as s, is a must. Go Amarr if you think you'll be fighting mostly other heavies. If you want versatility, though, go with Galante. It offers more over-all. High slots suck. Lol
Cal is pretty best though, and Min can get some obscene speed going.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
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RA Drahcir
Inner.Hell
368
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:45:00 -
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Min sacrifices too much survivability for speed, which is an oxymoron for heavies, they are a kamikaze heavy because they have no recoverability if they stack 2 kin cats. Gals can have 2 kin cats and 2 reps allowing them to hit and run, hit and run, hit and run , whereas min hit and run, hit and die. I agree Gal is an anti infantry heavy while Amar is an antiheavy heavy. It is hard to tell which is better because they are both great at their job, mowing infantry down. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
581
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:46:00 -
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Armor types are for soaking dmg
The shield types are for skirmishing.
To illustrate:
The Minmatar is the fast, weak, but a hmg popping up behind you is a painful surprise.
The Caldari is for skirmishing or stacking complex dmg mods. You need cover to use its shield bonus effectively.
The Gallente and Amarr are pretty equal, the Gallente for soak (lotsa bad guys) and the Amarr for DPS (hard to kill targets).
EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts
Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with you
+25 = I'm helping
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Meknow Intaki
149
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:56:00 -
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Gal heavy gets both it's resistances on the armor!! |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
107
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:58:00 -
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Amarr Heavies are still the master race for heavies. when it comes down to 1v1s amarr nearly always wins.
I only really kill amarrs with my gallente when I get the drop.
That said, just like SoTa Pop said, gallente heavies have much more versatility.
1.) Tons of armor for that logi bro.
2.) Speed tank fun for pubs
3.) Speed hack for annoying ADS in PC
4.) Don't have to look at amarr heavy in loadout, as in the past year in half.
Min and Cal don't have much of a role in PC. Most of them go down in 2-3 shots with shotgun which is a huge pain in the neck for most.
Scouts rule the land now.... |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1474
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:36:00 -
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Cal Heavy :D
Well, I know it's not the best GǪbut those reps tho
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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RA Drahcir
Inner.Hell
368
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:10:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Amarr Heavies are still the master race for heavies. when it comes down to 1v1s amarr nearly always wins.
I only really kill amarrs with my gallente when I get the drop.
That said, just like SoTa Pop said, gallente heavies have much more versatility.
1.) Tons of armor for that logi bro.
2.) Speed tank fun for pubs
3.) Speed hack for annoying ADS in PC
4.) Don't have to look at amarr heavy in loadout, as in the past year in half.
Min and Cal don't have much of a role in PC. Most of them go down in 2-3 shots with shotgun which is a huge pain in the neck for most.
Scouts rule the land now....
Sorry, Guy, I do not take advice from scrubs. |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
108
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:13:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:WhataguyTTU wrote:Amarr Heavies are still the master race for heavies. when it comes down to 1v1s amarr nearly always wins.
I only really kill amarrs with my gallente when I get the drop.
That said, just like SoTa Pop said, gallente heavies have much more versatility.
1.) Tons of armor for that logi bro.
2.) Speed tank fun for pubs
3.) Speed hack for annoying ADS in PC
4.) Don't have to look at amarr heavy in loadout, as in the past year in half.
Min and Cal don't have much of a role in PC. Most of them go down in 2-3 shots with shotgun which is a huge pain in the neck for most.
Scouts rule the land now.... Sorry, Guy, I do not take advice from scrubs.
Damn your right, once was a heavy master, now a shotty scout scrub. I'll be good one day. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
3138
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:17:00 -
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Amarr.
Don't get me wrong, I love my GalHeavy(rep tank FTW) but Amarr is just a better suit overall IMO.
Balanced,and unlike other Amarr suits it doesn't give up anything to be badass.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
103
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:17:00 -
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[quote=RA Drahcir]I still feel like it is a coin toss between the two. I like having 2 kin cats and 2 reps on my Gal, also having both damage resist for armor. The extra 5% damage resist to projectiles and 4.35% extra DPS for a second dmg mod and higher base armor is really tempting...the thing is which is to be sacrificed in lows? The second armor rep or kin cat?
Speed tanking is my go to for heavies but the option to go back to the bread and butter of heavies, stacking complex armor plates and running with a logi on my as s, is a must.[/qu
I'll be very honest. Before 1.8 I was Amarr Sentel = massacare mode.
Now 1.8 I use Gallente Sentel and so far its good. If I were you choose both
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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RA Drahcir
Inner.Hell
368
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:17:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:WhataguyTTU wrote:Amarr Heavies are still the master race for heavies. when it comes down to 1v1s amarr nearly always wins.
I only really kill amarrs with my gallente when I get the drop.
That said, just like SoTa Pop said, gallente heavies have much more versatility.
1.) Tons of armor for that logi bro.
2.) Speed tank fun for pubs
3.) Speed hack for annoying ADS in PC
4.) Don't have to look at amarr heavy in loadout, as in the past year in half.
Min and Cal don't have much of a role in PC. Most of them go down in 2-3 shots with shotgun which is a huge pain in the neck for most.
Scouts rule the land now.... Sorry, Guy, I do not take advice from scrubs. Damn your right, once was a heavy master, now a shotty scout scrub. I'll be good one day.
 seems like you took that seriously...I really have been liking the Gal Sentinel but I am never very confident confronting Amarr Sentinels. We keep mentioning how wonderful it is to speed tank heavies, it will get annoying once everyone catches on to this. |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
109
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:22:00 -
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In perspective RA, I was planning a heavy tournament in 1.7.....then OH lost ALL our districts. (>.<)
Now....having said tournament in 1.8 means any good Amarr heavies would take it down easily and all other heavy races get out classed.
So really.....any serious heavy NEEDS to go into Amarr sent. |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
280
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:31:00 -
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Lots of heavies in New Eden nowadays. Go Amarr. It's also the morally correct choice. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
1057
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:32:00 -
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The Amarr sentinel gets it's 15% resistance to CRs and SMGs as well as the HMG. Then again, if you peek at my sig, I might be a bit biased >.<
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:04:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:Min sacrifices too much survivability for speed, which is an oxymoron for heavies, they are a kamikaze heavy because they have no recoverability if they stack 2 kin cats. Gals can have 2 kin cats and 2 reps allowing them to hit and run, hit and run, hit and run , whereas min hit and run, hit and die. I agree Gal is an anti infantry heavy while Amar is an antiheavy heavy. It is hard to tell which is better because they are both great at their job, mowing infantry down.
The Minmatar Heavy is exceptional with the stamina and speed it can get. I wouldn't consider it viable for PC though, or at least not in direct combat, or close quarters, as heavies are generally used. The versatile aspect of the Minmatar is that it can get the jump on people, including heavies. If you can get a good amount of damage in, before they realize they're taking damage, then it's quite likely that you're going to kill them. It's also ridiculous fun to use. |
D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:40:00 -
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Amarr is the only one that can go toe to toe against 2 heavies without a logi. I've done it. Aiming hi drops them quick. One Flux in a crowd of heavies and it is go time with my Amarr Sentinel. Burst and cover, burst and cover. |
Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:14:00 -
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:Amarr is the only one that can go toe to toe against 2 heavies without a logi. I've done it. Aiming hi drops them quick. One Flux in a crowd of heavies and it is go time with my Amarr Sentinel. Burst and cover, burst and cover.
Assuming that the two heavies can't aim, which is rare, especially in PC. It won't stand a chance if they focus on to you, whether you have a logi or not. You might be able to take one with you though. |
Rifter7
Ancient Exiles.
426
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:45:00 -
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cal heavy with a forge gun
the ground is lava, dont let the flying magma monsters get near.
Primus sucks.
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SPACE SYPHILIS
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:19:00 -
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I have both to proto and I have to say I prefer my Armarr over my Gal at this time. I use a basic dren with MH82 HMG and it does the job most of the time. MY favorite is dropping proto heavies with a basic Dren |
LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
482
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:25:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:cal heavy with a forge gun
the ground is lava, dont let the flying magma monsters get near.
That's what I'm going to be getting this week. I used forge a long time ago on a different character (got biomassed) and loved it. Will be glad to have it back.
Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
1061
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:18:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Rifter7 wrote:cal heavy with a forge gun
the ground is lava, dont let the flying magma monsters get near. That's what I'm going to be getting this week. I used forge a long time ago on a different character (got biomassed) and loved it. Will be glad to have it back.
Challenge for ya Proto prof V Breach Forge with as many complex dmg mods as you can fit.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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