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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:56:00 -
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Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother.
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:58:00 -
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I'm all for having the old speeds back.
The people with good gun-game would still be able to hit speed tankers just fine.
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:59:00 -
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I'm not a cat person....
this game makes me sad....
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:03:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:I'm not a cat person.... Photo evidence says otherwise.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:03:00 -
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why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Cal.Heavy-Min.Heavy-Amarr.Heavy
Believe in the FORGE, young padawans
SoloDoloreSuCharlie
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:05:00 -
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I'm all for walking speed and strafe speed increase.
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:09:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak).
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:34:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. I'm not complaining but I have to say this ,
" You scouts " I love most of you because you stick together and I respect that and appreciate that , don't appreciate the shotgun blasts to my head but that a different story .
It sounds like you felt like you were the FLASH .. huh ?
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:35:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak). How about the pilot suits ???
Hell there going to need to be quick if they have to bail because their vehicle was destroyed behind enemy lines .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:37:00 -
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Anyone here remember when you stack kincats to increase everything speedish? Sprint speed, strafe speed, RoF?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:46:00 -
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It should. 8% on enhanced? lol If CCP truly fixed hit detection, then they should buff the speed.
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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:55:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother.
Run dem 11's and feel like you're flying across the map. People will have a hard time hitting you because of how fast you'll be moving.
I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:01:00 -
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Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
^
I thought that CCP couldn't get faster sprint speeds to actually work without breaking something (regardless of hit detection fixes)?
I thought that is what eventually messed up the scout balance/role, since we couldn't really take speed tanking to the level heavies can take EHP tanking.
The Ghost of Bravo
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm all for having the old speeds back.
The people with good gun-game would still be able to hit speed tankers just fine.
I miss speed tanking.
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:46:00 -
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Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust!
My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane!
Minmatar loyalist!
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:49:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Not if they're using a Mass Driver.
Proposed Mobile CRU Changes
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Not if they're using a Mass Driver. So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:55:00 -
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Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
I believe that breaks the game more than sprint speed.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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pseudosnipre
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:57:00 -
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Nah, everyone seems to be happy with scouts dual tanking instead...
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:28:00 -
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They just need a PG reduction
My lower-tier amarr scout fits don't fit cloaks, yet they can't fit kin cats.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:35:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote: So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers
It wouldn't be the only one, I was just naming examples. Though max skills, an EC-3 has a radii of 7.87m so no you wouldn't be able to.
Another counter, would be high ROF weaponry. Assuming there is no lag and the player doesn't have their sensitivity set to 0/0, they'd be able to track you despite strafing.
I'd be difficult mind you, but still possible if the player's aim is good enough.
Hope you brought your Minmatar Commandos.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:19:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane!
I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me.
With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle.
Cal.Heavy-Min.Heavy-Amarr.Heavy
Believe in the FORGE, young padawans
SoloDoloreSuCharlie
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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:25:00 -
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Jastad wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me. With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle.
One thing I picked up on as an Assault player going against other Assault players was when they strafe I'd wait till they'd go back to the left or right. I wouldnt try to "track" them. I'd wait till they went to one postiion because more than likely they'd go back and forth, left and right. As I say with my cousin "When we wait for things to happen it'll be a reward for you." I don't really try to strafe too much. I move a little bit and then high tail it out of there.
I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:52:00 -
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Jastad wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me.With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle.
Exactly, the essence of speed tanking in a nutshell.
The Kin-Cats wouldn't have to apply the full bonus - it could be seperate like Cardio Regs Max Stamina/Recharge.
It could do with something more to warrant the fitting costs.
It doesn't suprise me people only tend to stack tanking mods.
The Ghost of Bravo
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:54:00 -
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Jastad wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me. With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle. Don't you dare call my cal scout OP. You can still scan him with a gal logi cloaked mind you, and he's a shield tanker so...
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:55:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak). or just as mim scout bonus
It'll help define roles, i promise:)
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.27 05:20:00 -
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If I remember correctly, I believe speed was reduced as scouts were literally teleporting across the screen, or at least visually, as the game wasn't able to keep up with it, for whatever reason. I wasn't around at that time, but I do remember many posts regarding this same subject, and many were discussing as to how broken it was, not too being overpowered, but simply impossible to counter. |
Eric Del Carlo
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.04.27 20:29:00 -
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If the whole physical impulse or whatever BS CCP implemented that slows you down when you get shot at isn't removed, a buff to sprint speed would be pointless... Don't forget about aim assist. I love to run fast and always run double kin cats on my gal scout, but spray and pray in my general direction = chance to evade reduced by 50% = dead.
On another note, PG usage for kin cats is simply too high for the little competitive advantage it gives you, unless the physical impulse mechanic was removed, kin cats need their PG usage cut by a few points.
GÖà One of the original scout bastards GÖà
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.27 20:36:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Atiim wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Jastad wrote:why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need....
They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too.
Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Not if they're using a Mass Driver. So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers Not to mention with enough HP the splash isn't that threatening anymore. Hip-fire with any rifle will win fight through DPS easy.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 23:41:00 -
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(will steer the topic in another direction)
What you think about Active Kin-Cats module with decent speed boost, at cost of long cooldown?
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