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PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1289	Posted - 2014.04.26 20:56:00 - [1] - Quote Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7292	Posted - 2014.04.26 20:58:00 - [2] - Quote I'm all for having the old speeds back. The people with good gun-game would still be able to hit speed tankers just fine. HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2167	Posted - 2014.04.26 20:59:00 - [3] - Quote I'm not a cat person.... this game makes me sad....
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2961	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:03:00 - [4] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: I'm not a cat person.... Photo evidence says otherwise. KRRROOOOOOM
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 758	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:03:00 - [5] - Quote why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Cal.Heavy-Min.Heavy-Amarr.Heavy Believe in the FORGE, young padawans SoloDoloreSuCharlie
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1289	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:05:00 - [6] - Quote I'm all for walking speed and strafe speed increase. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 289	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:09:00 - [7] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak). I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 646	Posted - 2014.04.26 22:34:00 - [8] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. I'm not complaining but I have to say this , " You scouts " I love most of you because you stick together and I respect that and appreciate that , don't appreciate the shotgun blasts to my head but that a different story . It sounds like you felt like you were the FLASH .. huh ? Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 646	Posted - 2014.04.26 22:35:00 - [9] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak). How about the pilot suits ??? Hell there going to need to be quick if they have to bail because their vehicle was destroyed behind enemy lines . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12740	Posted - 2014.04.26 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote Anyone here remember when you stack kincats to increase everything speedish? Sprint speed, strafe speed, RoF? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro

Tectonic Fusion 1592	Posted - 2014.04.26 22:46:00 - [11] - Quote It should. 8% on enhanced? lol If CCP truly fixed hit detection, then they should buff the speed. Solo Player Squad status: Locked Ehem...OBVIOUSER troll is OBVIOUSER
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 410	Posted - 2014.04.26 22:55:00 - [12] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Run dem 11's and feel like you're flying across the map. People will have a hard time hitting you because of how fast you'll be moving. I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
Yan Darn Science For Death 678	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:01:00 - [13] - Quote Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. ^ I thought that CCP couldn't get faster sprint speeds to actually work without breaking something (regardless of hit detection fixes)? I thought that is what eventually messed up the scout balance/role, since we couldn't really take speed tanking to the level heavies can take EHP tanking. The Ghost of Bravo
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5242	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:29:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: I'm all for having the old speeds back. The people with good gun-game would still be able to hit speed tankers just fine. I miss speed tanking. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 787	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:46:00 - [15] - Quote Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Minmatar loyalist!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7317	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:49:00 - [16] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Not if they're using a Mass Driver. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 787	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:50:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Not if they're using a Mass Driver. So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers Minmatar loyalist!
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 387	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:55:00 - [18] - Quote Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. I believe that breaks the game more than sprint speed. "Shine bright like a diamond"
pseudosnipre 683	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote Nah, everyone seems to be happy with scouts dual tanking instead... Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you. BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4930	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:28:00 - [20] - Quote They just need a PG reduction My lower-tier amarr scout fits don't fit cloaks, yet they can't fit kin cats. I'm from the weird side of the internet

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7324	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:35:00 - [21] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers It wouldn't be the only one, I was just naming examples. Though max skills, an EC-3 has a radii of 7.87m so no you wouldn't be able to. Another counter, would be high ROF weaponry. Assuming there is no lag and the player doesn't have their sensitivity set to 0/0, they'd be able to track you despite strafing. I'd be difficult mind you, but still possible if the player's aim is good enough. Hope you brought your Minmatar Commandos. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 762	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:19:00 - [22] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me. With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle. Cal.Heavy-Min.Heavy-Amarr.Heavy Believe in the FORGE, young padawans SoloDoloreSuCharlie
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 413	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:25:00 - [23] - Quote Jastad wrote: pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me. With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle. One thing I picked up on as an Assault player going against other Assault players was when they strafe I'd wait till they'd go back to the left or right. I wouldnt try to "track" them. I'd wait till they went to one postiion because more than likely they'd go back and forth, left and right. As I say with my cousin "When we wait for things to happen it'll be a reward for you." I don't really try to strafe too much. I move a little bit and then high tail it out of there. I'll play the blues for you. -- Albert King
Yan Darn Science For Death 680	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:52:00 - [24] - Quote Jastad wrote: pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me. With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle. Exactly, the essence of speed tanking in a nutshell. The Kin-Cats wouldn't have to apply the full bonus - it could be seperate like Cardio Regs Max Stamina/Recharge. It could do with something more to warrant the fitting costs. It doesn't suprise me people only tend to stack tanking mods. The Ghost of Bravo
Tectonic Fusion 1604	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:54:00 - [25] - Quote Jastad wrote: pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! I don't think will be this much OP. some Scout need a little tweaks (Gal/CAl) . You can run-walk-strafe really fast with your min scout, but you can't have a huge pool of HP Sound like a fair trade to me. With this change we actually brought back speed tanking. My only concern is PC and the LOW-FRAMERATE battle. Don't you dare call my cal scout OP. You can still scan him with a gal logi cloaked mind you, and he's a shield tanker so... Solo Player Squad status: Locked Ehem...OBVIOUSER troll is OBVIOUSER
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 674	Posted - 2014.04.27 01:55:00 - [26] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak). or just as mim scout bonus It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 67	Posted - 2014.04.27 05:20:00 - [27] - Quote If I remember correctly, I believe speed was reduced as scouts were literally teleporting across the screen, or at least visually, as the game wasn't able to keep up with it, for whatever reason. I wasn't around at that time, but I do remember many posts regarding this same subject, and many were discussing as to how broken it was, not too being overpowered, but simply impossible to counter.
Eric Del Carlo Inner.Hell 136	Posted - 2014.04.27 20:29:00 - [28] - Quote If the whole physical impulse or whatever BS CCP implemented that slows you down when you get shot at isn't removed, a buff to sprint speed would be pointless... Don't forget about aim assist. I love to run fast and always run double kin cats on my gal scout, but spray and pray in my general direction = chance to evade reduced by 50% = dead. On another note, PG usage for kin cats is simply too high for the little competitive advantage it gives you, unless the physical impulse mechanic was removed, kin cats need their PG usage cut by a few points. GÖà One of the original scout bastards GÖà
Rusty Shallows 1660	Posted - 2014.04.27 20:36:00 - [29] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Atiim wrote: pagl1u M wrote: Jastad wrote: why don't we ask for the ONLY thing that kin lat need.... They need to boost the Walking and strafe speed too. Sorry but they would be the most OP thing ever seen in Dust! My Min scout normal speed with 2 kin would be 7.05, it d be insane! Not if they're using a Mass Driver. So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers Not to mention with enough HP the splash isn't that threatening anymore. Hip-fire with any rifle will win fight through DPS easy. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 294	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:41:00 - [30] - Quote (will steer the topic in another direction) What you think about Active Kin-Cats module with decent speed boost, at cost of long cooldown? I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.

PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1306	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:53:00 - [31] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: (will steer the topic in another direction) What you think about Active Kin-Cats module with decent speed boost, at cost of long cooldown? Its interesting. But having biotics maxed will mean nothing since I would have to wait to sprint. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Arirana Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 508	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:02:00 - [32] - Quote Atiim wrote: pagl1u M wrote: So the only counter would be a MD? Not really balanced. I think with 7 strafe speed you could counter strafe everything!! Even mass drivers It wouldn't be the only one, I was just naming examples. Though max skills, an EC-3 has a radii of 7.87m so no you wouldn't be able to. Another counter, would be high ROF weaponry. Assuming there is no lag and the player doesn't have their sensitivity set to 0/0, they'd be able to track you despite strafing. I'd be difficult mind you, but still possible if the player's aim is good enough. Hope you brought your Minmatar Commandos. You wouldn't be able avoid the blast of a mass driver round completely, but you gotta remember explosive dampening is a thing. Sitting at the edge of the blast radius minimizes the damage you take exponentially. Just saying, 7m/s strafe even against the mass driver with the deadliest aim will put you at the edge of the blast radius every time. I have an ego?! O.O The scales have fallen from my eyes.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 295	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:15:00 - [33] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: (will steer the topic in another direction) What you think about Active Kin-Cats module with decent speed boost, at cost of long cooldown? Its interesting. But having biotics maxed will mean nothing since I would have to wait to sprint. Armor Hardeners(EVE online active module) had passive bonus to armor resistance in past when module was not active. It was something like 15% if I'm correct(short memory; more or less it was some minimal bonus), and when player decide to activate module, bonus was switched to 55%+. Active Kin-Cats could provide similar 'double' - small passive(but smaller than other passive Kin-Cats), and large active with is of course bigger then current meta passive modules. I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 188	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:20:00 - [34] - Quote I remember someone at CCP saying in a video that the max foot speed is the highest it can be without breaking the game right now and something about running so fast that if you hit a wall you would die. Wish I could remember what video it was.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 411	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:25:00 - [35] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm all for walking speed and strafe speed increase. Especially for Minmatar Scouts..... "One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s. Oh wait, mk.0 Scouts do it... Oops.
Defy Gravity 383	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:39:00 - [36] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just a theory. What if we got our old sprint speeds back? That would be cool I think. What was the old speed tank speed? And I noticed something. When you hit 9.00, you feel like your gliding. Running is so much smoother. Old sprint speed was insane, I couldn't splash-kill scout with AFG because of it.. it would be cool to see it coming back, but more likely as new light dropsuit class(without cloak). AFG were also full of **** because you can still 1 shot ppl ?pGêÇWGê¬ ...u-ìop ¦¥p-¦sdn s-¦ OIq -Ä+í s¦¥-Ä
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2723	Posted - 2014.06.02 16:05:00 - [37] - Quote 3x Complex Kincats got a Scout Vk.0 to 10.63m/s Scout base movement speed was reduced but the kincat skill was given the +1% per level to efficacy which actually brought the max speed in the game to a higher level Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 514	Posted - 2014.06.02 17:45:00 - [38] - Quote Old KinCatz on a Mintinel? Let the hatemail flow. PSN: The_Rynoceros Console Master Race "It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
Soldier of Mawat Altyr Initiative 221	Posted - 2014.06.02 19:46:00 - [39] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Old KinCatz on a Mintinel? Let the hatemail flow. with double damage mod burst hmg? I want!


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