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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:42:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
My forge suit costs as much as an advanced fit tank, and is infinitely more vulnerable.
So basically, no.
You have my sympathy to an extent though. The problem is you're attempting to do something with an ADS that was never meant to be done with that kind of aircraft. ADS were created to get people to an area FAST, and then allow the pilot to cover those he deployed with his gun for as long as he can until he gets shot down. People like yourself have become incredibly good with them, but that still doesn't really mean they are supposed to be used in that manner.
Now had we a heavy aircraft, this would be a different conversation. I would fully expect those gunships to laugh at a forge gun. Hell I'd expect them to laugh at several forge guns.
I agree the assault dropship is meant to be used with a crew and shock troopers to truly reach its full potential. However I believe fox hound is talking about a larger problem and a side of dropshipping most people are unfamiliar with. I know fox hound is quite active in PC, one of only two dedicated pilots I know that gets contracts in that world. Currently in PC the GC (ground commanders) don't like to load up a full dropship as it subtracts from Tue limited pool of mercs on the ground and puts them in something that is very vulnerable and easily countered when trying to preform its true role.
The problem is we lack enough soldiers in a battle to have a dedicated dropship squad, and maps that are too small to warrent the need of fast aerial transport. Instead ADS pilots are tasked with scouting, placing uplinks, the occasional extract and providing light infantry support, relying on heavy hitters like tanks to combat other hard targets rather than have two gunners in the dropship.
As good as pilots like fox hound and sir snugglz are (probably the best two pilots in the game) they are limited to what they can do with only their pilot gun. This can be quite frustrating when you want to seriously support your team, especially with all the hard work it takes to get to the ace level and the isk/sp investment, but lack the troops to drop or the fire power without gunners makes it difficult to be as useful as most ace pilots know the dropship can be.
This is the main reason I have not gone into pc, I feel the role of a dropship pilot is just not quite there yet. When we have more boots on the ground in matches that will allow for dedicated shock trooper teams and game modes like conquest that will require rapid redeployment across a larger theater then I will try to get my foot in the door. Until then the dropship pilot role seems (to me) limited at high level play.
Not entirely sure if this is where fox hound is coming from, however this is what I have come to understand about PC dropship gameplay from a very reliable source. So fox hound please correct me if I'm wrong.
Tl;Dr you are correct that this how dropships are suppose to work, but at PC level play ADS are limited to operating in a more gunship style role. More troops in matches and reason to transport are needed for the true dropship role.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:57:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:They simply don't have enough survivability to go against the likes of a single forgegunner, seeing as their positions are hard to spot and they're smaller targets. They're back to two-three shotting dropships with the hardener nerf. Forge gunners also don't move around very often. If you get hit and see the direction in which you took damage it shouldn't be very difficult for you to figure out where they are. Awareness is OP. Just saying.
I don't think you understand how hard it is to see where a forge gun hits you from, 75% of the time they don't render. 100% of the time (unless you happen to be flying in the direction they shoot) you don't know where it came from as the hit marker tells you the opposite and even if it was correct you know it came from the left, but now he doesn't render, you have to leave and if your at a high altitude you won't see much of anything (if by some miracle they did render) |