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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:56:00 -
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Before 1.8 no one had sentinel, and if you did, thats okay, but I did not. And from there I skilled into assault/logi stuff because I had the SP. Alas 1.8 came out making sentinels logi cake, but costing moar SP. Although I love my sentinel, I lost alot of SP on other weapons and equipment that are useless to me now, how sad...
If this happened to you, I don't feel bad, because it happend to me. Although empathy is acceptable. 
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:01:00 -
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I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at.
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at.
Awwww yeah son, *high five*!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at.
How do sentinels cost more sp now?
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:15:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. How do sentinels cost more sp now?
WE never skilled into sentinel because they were worse than basic pre-1.8.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:18:00 -
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mordiby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. How do sentinels cost more sp now? WE never skilled into sentinel because they were worse than basic pre-1.8.
the basic suits cost more so i specced into sentinels to save isk lol
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:19:00 -
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mordiby wrote:Before 1.8 no one had sentinel, and if you did, thats okay, but I did not. And from there I skilled into assault/logi stuff because I had the SP. Alas 1.8 came out making sentinels logi cake, but costing moar SP. Although I love my sentinel, I lost alot of SP on other weapons and equipment that are useless to me now, how sad... If this happened to you, I don't feel bad, because it happend to me. Although empathy is acceptable.
Welcome to Dust I guess? Don't get too used to your current fitting. 1.9 or 2.0 (whatever comes first) will change the balancing again.
Also SP are never wasted. In the worst case you get more variety.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:19:00 -
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mordiby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. How do sentinels cost more sp now? WE never skilled into sentinel because they were worse than basic pre-1.8.
What he said. It was much less SP to just take Basic Heavy to 5 for a superior suit. With 1.8, you'd be stupid not to max out Sentinel, so you have to take basic Heavy to 3, Sentinel to 5 = way more SP
Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Also SP are never wasted. In the worst case you get more variety.
I'm not sure how having my Complex Damage mods turned into Advanced damage mods give me more variety...but sure...if that's what you think lol. I could flood you with examples but there is no point.
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:20:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:mordiby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. How do sentinels cost more sp now? WE never skilled into sentinel because they were worse than basic pre-1.8. the basic suits cost more so i specced into sentinels to save isk lol
Yeah, but that extra damage mod was worth it for the price, and the amount of SP you save, I only spent 1 point in sentinels because STD basic/sentinel were the same.
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:22:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:mordiby wrote:Before 1.8 no one had sentinel, and if you did, thats okay, but I did not. And from there I skilled into assault/logi stuff because I had the SP. Alas 1.8 came out making sentinels logi cake, but costing moar SP. Although I love my sentinel, I lost alot of SP on other weapons and equipment that are useless to me now, how sad... If this happened to you, I don't feel bad, because it happend to me. Although empathy is acceptable. Welcome to Dust I guess? Don't get too used to your current fitting. 1.9 or 2.0 (whatever comes first) will change the balancing again. Also SP are never wasted. In the worst case you get more variety.
Yes, if only heavies could use equipment... I ponder that moment.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:27:00 -
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mordiby wrote:buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:mordiby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. How do sentinels cost more sp now? WE never skilled into sentinel because they were worse than basic pre-1.8. the basic suits cost more so i specced into sentinels to save isk lol Yeah, but that extra damage mod was worth it for the price, and the amount of SP you save, I only spent 1 point in sentinels because STD basic/sentinel were the same.
Sentinel has more low slots
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:30:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Sentinel has more low slots
Not pre-1.8 STD sentinel, they had the same module slots, but sentinel cost less, but it goes all crazy after that pre-1.8.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:31:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sentinel has more low slots
Damage >>>>>>>>> HP
Now that damage was nerfed to hell and Sentinels were buffed beyond belief, you have to make the switch. Not necessarily a bad thing, just annoying.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:31:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at.
????
4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you?
No.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:32:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you?
2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? 2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels.
Damage mods on the hmg is useless
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:34:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you?
Actually it was 2% per level...
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:34:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? 2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels. Damage mods on the hmg is useless
Pre-1.8 they were awesome.
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mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:36:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? Actually it was 2% per level...
And if you wanted 2% per level for that, that just tells me you think its okay to shoot forever, and then retaliate 1 second later, but your reloading. A good heavy reloads before conflict, not during.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:36:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? 2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels. Damage mods on the hmg is useless
Lmfao, not pre 1.8 they weren't. Now with CCPs idiotic change I'm stuck with them since I didn't dual tank, thus I have no shield mods for my high slot (the only good mod for an HMG Gal Sentinel)
How anyone used an HMG without two damage mods is beyond me, that second one made all the difference.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:37:00 -
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mordiby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? 2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels. Damage mods on the hmg is useless Pre-1.8 they were awesome.
Lets see
Rep and hp>short ttk and the hmg was powerful enough
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? 2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels. Damage mods on the hmg is useless Lmfao, not pre 1.8 they weren't. Now with CCPs idiotic change I'm stuck with them since I didn't dual tank, thus I have no shield mods for my high slot (the only good mod for an HMG Gal Sentinel) How anyone used an HMG without two damage mods is beyond me, that second one made all the difference.
I never use damage mods
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:39:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? 2 High slots for damage mods, who needs a reload speed bonus when you kill everything in sight? Basic heavies were far superior to pre 1.8 Sentinels. Damage mods on the hmg is useless
They were 10% in 1.7, keep that in mind. In 1.7, the damage of a basic HMG with 2 damage mods equaled the damage of a boundless with 1. |
mordiby
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:39:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Lets see
Rep and hp>short ttk and the hmg was powerful enough
Well, as I said, it was okay to skill into sentinel pre-1.8, but I did not. Did not like the bonuses back then.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:39:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Lets see
Rep and hp>short ttk and the hmg was powerful enough
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Basic heavies had plenty of HP and reps, the extra damage ensured you didn't need it by killing your opponents quickly.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:55:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:
Also SP are never wasted. In the worst case you get more variety.
^^^ this .. I'm not the type that would like to have 50 weapons but I basically use 10 to 15 .
Item's just laying around because I can't make use for them and HAD to have them to compete . Bonuses that decrease the effectiveness of certain items if your not a particular race . Yeah it might be nice to have the SP's in items like that but having the opportunity to make my merc more balanced as a whole as opposed to partial would be best .
To bad there wasn't a full infantry like there was for vehicle's .
You didn't see too many Sentinels around because the bonuses wasn't that great and there was ONLY Amarr .
The FOTM was different then too .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:58:00 -
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mordiby wrote:Before 1.8 no one had sentinel, and if you did, thats okay, but I did not. And from there I skilled into assault/logi stuff because I had the SP. Alas 1.8 came out making sentinels logi cake, but costing moar SP. Although I love my sentinel, I lost alot of SP on other weapons and equipment that are useless to me now, how sad... If this happened to you, I don't feel bad, because it happend to me. Although empathy is acceptable.
Mostly becose the game is still fresh, still many tools/modules not released. Would like to see also remote schield reps? But its will not work with current passive regen, active shield booster maybe.. Also would like to see any alternative to HMG.
Hopefully on the FF CCP will share theyr plans and give more intel. Im bitching sometimes but still prefer the Dust over other fps anyways. Art, concept, atmosphere (though i enjoed closed beta more, those crasy missile havs ;) )
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:00:00 -
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V1RONXSS wrote:mordiby wrote:Before 1.8 no one had sentinel, and if you did, thats okay, but I did not. And from there I skilled into assault/logi stuff because I had the SP. Alas 1.8 came out making sentinels logi cake, but costing moar SP. Although I love my sentinel, I lost alot of SP on other weapons and equipment that are useless to me now, how sad... If this happened to you, I don't feel bad, because it happend to me. Although empathy is acceptable. Mostly becose the game is still fresh, still many tools/modules not released. Would like to see also remote schield reps? But its will not work with current passive regen, active shield booster maybe.. Also would like to see any alternative to HMG. Hopefully on the FF CCP will share theyr plans and give more intel. Im bitching sometimes but still prefer the Dust over other fps anyways. Art, concept, atmosphere (though i enjoed closed beta more, those crasy missile havs ;) ) Will see.
Yes, to true, still beta.
Also another heavy weapon, I got the weapon for you, heavy tesla coil gun.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:09:00 -
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V1RONXSS wrote: active shield booster maybe
If they do this , it has to function like the 1.6 vehicle shield boost where it gave you the efficacy and the pulses .
I miss those mods because they functioned way better than just one flat out pulse and you waiting seconds for another opportunity to use another pulse .
Worthless to me even though some like it .
Pre 1.7 = better functionality .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Posted - 2014.04.25 20:38:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I had to ditch all my light frame / scout suit SP to afford the Sentinel SP. Why anyone ran Sentinels pre 1.8 will always be beyond me, Basic Heavies were where it was at. ???? 4 low slots & 25% heavy weapon reload speed didn't sound good to you? Actually it was 2% per level...
It was marginally better than the feedback damage reduction which is the 5% per level CM is thinking of.
Whoever developed Heavies for Chromosome 1.0 wasn't even trying.
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