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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.25 16:57:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:-snip mostly good posting- Oh you are back with your numbers ?! Do you even play this game or love that calculator more than the DS3... everytime i see you are either spamming some uplinks on random places and hiding behind the redline.. You dont even snipe... You just sit there and get WP.... Must be nice to come here and crunch numbers and give high and mighty ideas on everything...
Ah yes, the 'numbers are irrelevant get good scrub' argument.
So, if you don't think the CR is blatantly overpowered, I have a question for you. Two, in fact.
Firstly, do you play the game?
If your answer to that question is yes, and you steadfastly believe that the CR is not the supreme rifle, then I have a second question: Do you use it?
The combat rifle has everything. It has fantastic damage output, the best damage profile in the game, an excellent fire rate, a solid range, good damage per clip, fast reload and the lowest fitting requirements of any rifle.
The only rifle arguably capable of competing with the sheer damage the CR can put out is the ScR, which actually has a balancing mechanic attached to it in the form of overheat.
It baffles me how anyone can believe that it's balanced against the other rifles.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:12:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:-snip- if only we all played dust over in math land where every bullet hits, everyone starts firing at the same time, and no other variables are applied ^^
Oh, sorry, are people using the CR automatically so terrible that they always miss enough bullets to cripple them to the levels of other weapons?
The CR is superior in practically every way. Situational variables won't affect that in the slightest.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12707
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:14:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:
LOL my tank lmfao my tank....... You lost me there
I imagine you would have been lost at elementary arithmetic.
Oh hey, you were.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:35:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:-snip- if only we all played dust over in math land where every bullet hits, everyone starts firing at the same time, and no other variables are applied ^^ Oh, sorry, are people using the CR automatically so terrible that they always miss enough bullets to cripple them to the levels of other weapons? The CR is superior in practically every way. Situational variables won't affect that in the slightest. It slightly does when 5 guys with CR are shooting at the same direction... It was the same story in 1.7 when everyone specced into RR AR before that... All the AR is OP thread composers were writing RR is OP now CR is OP CR is a much better Rifle... More like the new Jack of all trades...
The new jack of all trades that is eminently superior in all trades. To use an epithet, the master of all trades.
Also, what exactly about 5 people with CRs shooting in the same direction will make the CR worse?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:54:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:calisk galern wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:-snip- if only we all played dust over in math land where every bullet hits, everyone starts firing at the same time, and no other variables are applied ^^ Oh, sorry, are people using the CR automatically so terrible that they always miss enough bullets to cripple them to the levels of other weapons? The CR is superior in practically every way. Situational variables won't affect that in the slightest. the math he's stating is as follows, every bullet hits, is based on a variable fire rate weapon that is different per user/turbo controller, it's a 1 on 1, there is no cover, no resistances, doesn't account for the other weapons being used in the game currently, etc. what is the point, this is never a realistic scenario that ever occurs in the game. is the combat rifle balanced when compared to mass drivers? how about the laser rifle? the four racial rifles aren't the only thing we need to balance( if balancing was even required ). I just don't get what the point is, he brings up the dps of the scrambler rifle an anti shield high alpha long range rifle, versus a burst fire anti-armor mid-range rifle. both weapons are amazing I use them both, their difference in dps is the smallest part of the difference between these two rifles. sure the combat rifle could beat the scrambler rifle user at mid range, but the scrambler rifle could also drop them with a single shot before they even get to pull a trigger.
You miss the point completely. Of course you can't calculate everything that happens in a match.
But if something is so obviously superior in every aspect you can quite clearly show that.
You bring up role definition with 'burst fire anti-armour mid-range rifle' vs 'anti shield high alpha long range rifle'.
Yet the CR will do more damage against shields than the SCR will. The CR will do more damage at range than the SCR will - despite the shorter range the higher damage compensates for the falloff.
The SCR has a better alpha capability in the form of the charge shot, I'll give you that, but the CR will outpace it on damage within moments.
Also, 'the scrambler rifle could also drop them with a single shot before they even get to pull a trigger' if you're OHKOing anything with a scrambler rifle apart from militia suits I'd be surprised. Have you actually used the weapon beyond maybe a couple of matches against terribads?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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