DUST Search - Cloaking in EVE Online, dust should be more like this!!

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Autoaim Bot514 wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Stealth bombers get a 100% reduction to targeting delay after decloaking.

If we're making direct comparisons, every other suit that fits a cloak should get a delay, not the scout.

QED

scout is for...scouting

If they want scouts scouting, they need to make a lot of changes.

I would turn cloaks into an escape tool. Invisibility while standing becomes standard for all movement. You would be hard to see even while moving . Damp bonus included. De-Cloak and Cloak animation would last for 3 seconds. This prevents scouts from abusing its invisibility to insta kill targets (Harder to do though, see slot changes). Skill for cloak reduces time for de-cloaking by 5%. At proto, this shaves off 3/4 of a second off de-cloak and cloaking. This reduces total time to cloak, and then de-cloak by 1.5 seconds. A worthy investment, yet not game breaking.

How the cloak would work: You can't switch out of it. To de-cloak, you press the button. The merc touches the button, and you go through the animation (You can sprint while doing so). It slowly de-cloaks you, and you become more and more visible as it goes along. After it decloaks (Or cloaks), it makes the sound, and you are free to switch to a weapon.

Slot layout becomes no grenade, two sidearm slots.

Share passive scans with the team, and LOS scans with the squad.

WP for passive scan kills. LOS scan will be left alone, as they would mainly be used to let the squad know where people are moving.

How I would run my Scout MK.0 with this build.

2x Complex Shield, 1x Complex Precision

Nova Knives
Six Kin SMG

Pro Cloak
PRO Quantum Scanner

Complex Damp
Complex Speed
Complex Range Extender

Most of my time would be spent using my passive dampening to wander behind enemy lines, assassinating lone targets and hacking points. My scans would reveal if people came to hunt me, I would cloak and use my speed to retreat. Scanner would be used to light up targets I see moving out of my area, so that my squad would know where they are once they leave my range.

Just my take on this. If you want people to scout, they need both the equipment and incentive to do it. Shared passive scans with the team, along with WP for doing so, would encourage scouts to hang around hot spots and scan for the team. LOS isn't shared, because it isn't put into the tacnet system. I see LOS scanning as talking to your squad, and informing them of what you see. Only hard data gets sent to the team.

So that assaults won't be left in the Dust WP wise, I would also say that they need to get extra WP every time they get a kill within a certain radius of an objective. Only Heavies and Assaults get this. They would then be encourage to attack letters, and rewarded for doing so. WP's need for Orbitals would also be increased.

Sorry for the long post. Was on a roll.

EDIT: Changed my fit because previous fit was impossible. Damn PG on the Min Scout.


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Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 395	Posted - 2014.04.25 16:34:00 - [1] - Quote Dheez wrote: Getting hit with Waapons fire, Splash Damage, Flux, should negate the cloak field. Also, Please get rid of that "Sprint cancel & Crawl effect" whenever a running scout gets hit. But fluxes would destroy shield tankers.....and that doesn't pose well for Cal and Min scouts....you'll basically be advocating for more Gal scouts...which isn't good. "One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s. Oh wait, mk.0 Scouts do it... Oops.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 406	Posted - 2014.04.26 19:25:00 - [2] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Autoaim Bot514 wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Stealth bombers get a 100% reduction to targeting delay after decloaking. If we're making direct comparisons, every other suit that fits a cloak should get a delay, not the scout. QED scout is for...scouting If they want scouts scouting, they need to make a lot of changes. I would turn cloaks into an escape tool. Invisibility while standing becomes standard for all movement. You would be hard to see even while moving . Damp bonus included. De-Cloak and Cloak animation would last for 3 seconds. This prevents scouts from abusing its invisibility to insta kill targets (Harder to do though, see slot changes). Skill for cloak reduces time for de-cloaking by 5%. At proto, this shaves off 3/4 of a second off de-cloak and cloaking. This reduces total time to cloak, and then de-cloak by 1.5 seconds. A worthy investment, yet not game breaking. How the cloak would work: You can't switch out of it. To de-cloak, you press the button. The merc touches the button, and you go through the animation (You can sprint while doing so). It slowly de-cloaks you, and you become more and more visible as it goes along. After it decloaks (Or cloaks), it makes the sound, and you are free to switch to a weapon. Slot layout becomes no grenade, two sidearm slots. Share passive scans with the team, and LOS scans with the squad. WP for passive scan kills. LOS scan will be left alone, as they would mainly be used to let the squad know where people are moving. How I would run my Scout MK.0 with this build. 2x Complex Shield, 1x Complex Precision Nova Knives Six Kin SMG Pro Cloak PRO Quantum Scanner Complex Damp Complex Speed Complex Range Extender Most of my time would be spent using my passive dampening to wander behind enemy lines, assassinating lone targets and hacking points. My scans would reveal if people came to hunt me, I would cloak and use my speed to retreat. Scanner would be used to light up targets I see moving out of my area, so that my squad would know where they are once they leave my range. Just my take on this. If you want people to scout, they need both the equipment and incentive to do it. Shared passive scans with the team, along with WP for doing so, would encourage scouts to hang around hot spots and scan for the team. LOS isn't shared, because it isn't put into the tacnet system. I see LOS scanning as talking to your squad, and informing them of what you see. Only hard data gets sent to the team. So that assaults won't be left in the Dust WP wise, I would also say that they need to get extra WP every time they get a kill within a certain radius of an objective. Only Heavies and Assaults get this. They would then be encourage to attack letters, and rewarded for doing so. WP's need for Orbitals would also be increased. Sorry for the long post. Was on a roll. EDIT: Changed my fit because previous fit was impossible. Damn PG on the Min Scout. That's also a problem....pg on min scout.... "One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s. Oh wait, mk.0 Scouts do it... Oops.