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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:10:00 -
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whats the deal here, i see people saying both, i like using only gallente stuff and the plasma cannon always interested me, but it seems like it would be mad weak against vehicles, whats the deal? what role is this thing intended for is there a definitive answer for this?
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
902
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:12:00 -
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I think it's supposed to be AV, but it fails at both tasks currently. People say its AI because it *can* be used in a dumbfire fashion to kill infantry.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:13:00 -
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It was supposed to be AV, but the devs have stated once or twice that they don't know how to buff it against vehicles without making it OP vs. infantry, so they've left it broken until they can figured something out later.
i.e. - the weapon is just bad. |
Je-NOVA
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:23:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:I think it's supposed to be AV, but it fails at both tasks currently. People say its AI because it *can* be used in a dumbfire fashion to kill infantry.
Thanks to ccp's brilliant logic, they found that an av weapon that did too much damage to vehicles would be overpowered against infantry, so they made the damage very low for all 3 tiers.
Although because the weapon isn't good as good against vehicles people only use it against infantry.
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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:28:00 -
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If the Turrets are supposedly used against Vehicles, then only use Rail & Rocket Turrets, as for the blasters turrets they can be used in a Infantry only Game Mode.
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I don't know why CCP treat this as a foreign concept -_- |
Galthur
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:31:00 -
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It is supposed to be AV doubling with AI abilities.
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Canis Ferox
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:31:00 -
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Neither. |
Omega Black Zero
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:34:00 -
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Works well against tower installations if your aim is true. Takes about four - five shots, but if no one is taking out installations, it can be helpful. Also good tactic for scaring tanks and ADS in closer range AV, especially if they don't see you. I've taken out quite a few door gunners in drop ships with the plasma cannon, so it's not a total loss, it's a very situational weapon. |
Cyrus Grevare
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:38:00 -
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To me the description clues it's for AI purposes, but IMHO it performs poorly against everything
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:23:00 -
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:whats the deal here, i see people saying both, i like using only gallente stuff and the plasma cannon always interested me, but it seems like it would be mad weak against vehicles, whats the deal? what role is this thing intended for is there a definitive answer for this?
The only AV use I've found for it is as a quick anti shield pop before I set off all the REs I've slapped on the hull.
No.
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:29:00 -
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It is an AY weapon. It means anti-you. You is the player that uses it.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.04.25 01:30:00 -
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I wonder why it is so hard to set a fired round to have different AV damage than vs infantry...?
Think about penetration and directed penetrating ammunition.
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:23:00 -
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1 PLC shot to a shield HAV with the assistance of 1 swarm afterward = easy kill if done right.
its supposed to be an Anti Shield AV weapon but no one uses it on shield vehicles hardly and when you do its best to have allies with swarms or fogres since you can basically one shot a gunnlogi's shields with that thing
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:27:00 -
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CCP stated that it is intended as an AV weapon somewhere on these forums. I'm not about to go look it up, but there is a CCP post that states "Its intended role is AV".
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:32:00 -
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"The plasma cannon is a single-shot, direct-fire weapon developed for use in urban operations and confined space combat. The dense plasma discharge it generates is highly unstable, decaying rapidly and venting sufficient heat and energy to severely damage targets caught within its critical emission radius."
Description reads fairly AI. Too bad the projectile ghosts through at least a third of the people you shoot with it, splash rarely seems to apply correctly, the reticle is meaningless, the weapon auto reloads after firing which almost entirely blocks one's line of sight to the point where one cannot tell where the projectile has actually hit AND it's still buggy as hell when trying to switch to sidearm (probably also due to that auto reload).
Why must best weapon be worst weapon? :^( |
CRYPT3C W0LF
SilenT AngelS RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:32:00 -
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I want my Assault plasma cannon >:(
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:43:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:It was supposed to be AV, but the devs have stated once or twice that they don't know how to buff it against vehicles without making it OP vs. infantry, so they've left it broken until they can figured something out later.
i.e. - the weapon is just bad.
Which I think is a copout answer for them, because it already one shots with direct fire so how would buffing direct damage make it any more broken towards infantry...
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:48:00 -
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I run PLC most of the time now, and let me tell you the PLC is the worst AV weapon.
You get maybe 2 shots, and you'll hardly scratch the paint with those. Plus it is almost impossible to hit any moving targets because the projectile is SLOW. But even still if you can get remotes applied it's not bad at weakening a tank.
As anti infantry it actual has a role, it's a decent 1v1 weapon on account of the splash. Plus thing will wreck most cloaked scouts, and those direct hits on heavies are glorious. |
Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:50:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:It was supposed to be AV, but the devs have stated once or twice that they don't know how to buff it against vehicles without making it OP vs. infantry, so they've left it broken until they can figured something out later.
i.e. - the weapon is just bad. Which I think is a copout answer for them, because it already one shots with direct fire so how would buffing direct damage make it any more broken towards infantry...
At the time I think they were more referring to travel speed increases, larger magazine size and RoF.
I liked Cat Mercs idea of buffing the damage and turning it into a close range Breach FG. |
Doctor Day
EoN Minmatar
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:53:00 -
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Its CQ AV scout weapon.
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axINVICTUSxa
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.04.25 03:06:00 -
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:whats the deal here, i see people saying both, i like using only gallente stuff and the plasma cannon always interested me, but it seems like it would be mad weak against vehicles, whats the deal? what role is this thing intended for is there a definitive answer for this?
Comrade. Honestly, I think the Plasma Cannon was made for AV but CCP secretly made it for AI.
After all, what else can it do besides melt faces at close range?
By nature I am a scout. When I'm not sniping from hill-tops or roofs of urban buildings (NOT IN THE REDLINE), I'm almost always running cloaked scout PC.
There's nothing more satisfying then getting behind a heavy, completely OHKO'ing the Logi next to the Heavy, ducking under cover and cloaking while the heavy looks desperately for this strange and invisible threat, and then pop out after reloading to melt the heavy in either one hit or two. It matters not.
Typically I can OHK most Heavies with my ADV PC (have prof 5) but their are those occassional tanks that last past the first blast, so I either blast them again or finish them with my magsec.
Either works fine, tbh.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:52:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:1 PLC shot to a shield HAV with the assistance of 1 swarm afterward = easy kill if done right.
its supposed to be an Anti Shield AV weapon but no one uses it on shield vehicles hardly and when you do its best to have allies with swarms or fogres since you can basically one shot a gunnlogi's shields with that thing Same could be said for two swarmers.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:30:00 -
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Both. Mostly AV.
However, it is utterly useless as an AV weapon, so it makes a better AI weapon right now.
One thing I've never understood it why they are afraid of buffing its direct damage "because it would be unbalanced towards infantry". Its already a OHK 95% of the time, why would increasing its direct damage be an issue?
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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
153
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Posted - 2014.04.25 09:05:00 -
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The PLC is definitely gallente AV but it sucks both as an AV and AI weapon. People are improvising buts its supposed to be AV
AV weapons in light category
Caldari -Swarm Launcher Swarms is technically the only light AV weapon atm...but marginally....heck still broken but tank module nerf gives it life but you need more than 2 wielders to take a vehicle down. Anti-armor explosive weapon. Min Commando bonus applies because it's an explosive type....don't ask me why. No AI ability.
Gallente - Plasma Cannon Gallente close range AV weapon for anti-shield work. However, aiming that thing is ridiculous; sight does not help and slow projectile speed and drop makes it easy to avoid and nigh useful at range. Can be used against infantry, but its a one shot miracle. Inconsistent to say the least but i've seen success especially against heavy suits and weak sauce scouts.
Amarr-- TBA Any guess is as good as any. Any ideas?
Minmatar- Mass Driver? Although the general consensus is more AI than AV but it can do direct damage if a tank is close enough. Moderate speed projectile but more consistent performance vs infantry. Can annoy the hell out of dropship pilots though.
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