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Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:03:00 -
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I'm training into cal logi for the nanohive bonus, currently being at level 2 when I throw down a Wiyrkomi nano hive it should be repping at 77hp/s instead of its regular 70. If I stand in my hives that have been thrown by the cal logi wearing a heavy suit I only get 70reps/s instead of 77reps/s.
Is there any nano throwing cal logi's out there's how can verify if the hive bonuses are working?!
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:07:00 -
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They workGǪbut they disappear if you swap suits. I've heard Amarr Logi's are having the same problem.
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:13:00 -
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Denn is correct, to take advantage of a suit bonus such as the caldari logistic nanohives you will need to be present on the battlefield in said suit while in the same nanohive you just dropped.
If you swap suits in the middle of battle then you forfeit that bonus right as you did not full fill the first criteria of being in said logistic suit. This goes for all suits with bonuses to 'X'.
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Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:01:00 -
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Well I se no point of training cal logi past two then.. If the phisical properties of a object change because I change drop suit or die is just dumb... |
Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:16:00 -
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Rate increases I thought...that +70 happens at faster rate.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:17:00 -
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were you hoping to be one of those guys who has 4 suits with all of the different nanohives, you run to a supply depot and drop 2 of everything down and then change back to assault keep slaying? If so... this change was meant to curb that specific action, and I personally am glad for it. equipment spam is much reduced in 1.8 and its really nice.
I play Amarr Logi now, I have no problems with refreshing my uplinks after I die.
It would be even easier for cal logi as nanohives aren't generally placed in the most strategic of positions like uplinks need to be. |
Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:19:00 -
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I guess I won't be training any amarr logistics either then=ƒÿ¿
What's the point of putting down stuff If you just got to go hide in a corner to keep the bonuses alive. Training anything other then Minmatar logistics is a waist.. |
Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:24:00 -
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It does not help equipment spam, I still throw out eight hives every time, more if needed along with almost every proto uplink when in a match =ƒÿÉ |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:39:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:were you hoping to be one of those guys who has 4 suits with all of the different nanohives, you run to a supply depot and drop 2 of everything down and then change back to assault keep slaying? If so... this change was meant to curb that specific action, and I personally am glad for it. equipment spam is much reduced in 1.8 and its really nice.
I play Amarr Logi now, I have no problems with refreshing my uplinks after I die.
It would be even easier for cal logi as nanohives aren't generally placed in the most strategic of positions like uplinks need to be.
ha, curb equipment spam. I don't know what games you've been playing but I've seen significantly worse EQ spam since 1.8 and having to constantly check back what suit you're wearing (because tests have shown there is a buffer of time when you switch suits before the skill resets to lower tier) is probably why there has been an increase of lag on most every server.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
893
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:00:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Well I se no point of training cal logi past two then.. If the phisical properties of a object change because I change drop suit or die is just dumb... You'd train the suit past 2 if you were, you know, actually going to play a logi.
IF CCP implemented a stealth change where suit bonuses don't apply once you change suits, that'd be FANTASTIC. It'd curb the fits where people just stack hives, uplinks, etc., swap at the supply depot and spam equipment, then resuit into their heavy or scout or whatever.
Give incentive to stay in your suit in your role. That's a great change, if intended. Whether intended or not, well, that's another question entirely...
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
771
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:09:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Meknow Intaki wrote:Well I se no point of training cal logi past two then.. If the phisical properties of a object change because I change drop suit or die is just dumb... You'd train the suit past 2 if you were, you know, actually going to play a logi. IF CCP implemented a stealth change where suit bonuses don't apply once you change suits, that'd be FANTASTIC. It'd curb the fits where people just stack hives, uplinks, etc., swap at the supply depot and spam equipment, then resuit into their heavy or scout or whatever. Give incentive to stay in your suit in your role. That's a great change, if intended. Whether intended or not, well, that's another question entirely...
That change already exists today. If you change from a cal logi to min logi (or even cal assault), your hives lose all their bonuses.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:13:00 -
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Your only intention of using logistics is for them to work as proxies for your real role as heavy, it seems. I commend CCP for removing this crutch from under your feet.
If you want to be a logi, be it full time like everyone else instead of thinking you can just drop equipment at leisure and then reap the rewards for your other roles.
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Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:35:00 -
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I run a 100% proto min logi all the time, I was trying to expand my horizons a little. In hind site cal logi is a bad choice =ƒÿÉ |
Meknow Intaki
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:38:00 -
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I just wanted something a little better to stand in well repping others, no one like to rep the repper |
emtbraincase
Falconpunch Hatesurfers
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:34:00 -
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I have actual numbers for this based on a proto bonus suit (lvl 5) Here
Just know all the numbers are assuming a lvl 5 suit spec, not lvl 2. So when seeing how the bonuses function, the top number will not be the same but the way it behaves will be. |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:38:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Well I se no point of training cal logi past two then.. If the phisical properties of a object change because I change drop suit or die is just dumb...
No, the physical properties of the equipment didn't change. It was just that the link between your suit and your device created a bonus as it should be. I only wish for that to be transformed into an overall bandwidth requirement for equipment. |
Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:46:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Your only intention of using logistics is for them to work as proxies for your real role as heavy, it seems. I commend CCP for removing this crutch from under your feet.
If you want to be a logi, be it full time like everyone else instead of thinking you can just drop equipment at leisure and then reap the rewards for your other roles.
There are a lot of actual logi players who trained up multiple roles, like carrying ammo AND giving reps. The multi role logi was nerfed pretty hard. If my squad wants to spam AV grenades, I have to switch out my Min Logi for a Caldari Logi.
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.04.24 18:41:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Well I se no point of training cal logi past two then.. If the phisical properties of a object change because I change drop suit or die is just dumb...
Nah. Think about the spam 2-3 logis could do in a matter of minutes. You could fill the map and change into a scout suit and only have to go back to the suit every 5 minutes or so. Logis should have a role that isn't just dropping equipment and then changing suits to something else. If you want 3 second spawns all over the map you should at least have to wear the suit that gives the bonus. If you want crazy reps/ammo refresh, you should also have to at least have the suit on. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.24 18:45:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:That change already exists today. If you change from a cal logi to min logi (or even cal assault), your hives lose all their bonuses. I didn't realize this. That's awesome then!!
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 18:48:00 -
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They should have reduced the variety of different pieces of equipment and had individual skills boost the efficacy of the pieces of equipment if they wanted to reduce equipment spam.
By that I mean only 2 different types of uplinks. One with more spawns and one with faster spawns, then have skills boost their effectiveness.
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