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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:13:00 -
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I see tons of heavys, but I only see like 3-6 scouts on the other team. I'm a cal scout btw so I can see most scouts passively. Most people I see are Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente medium frames. I also see some caldari assaults (one in particular was quite good and made me bring out my scrambler rifle just to take him out).
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:14:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see tons of heavys, but I only see like 3-6 scouts on the other team. I'm a cal scout btw so I can see most scouts passively. Most people I see are Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente medium frames. I also see some caldari assaults (one in particular was quite good and made me bring out my scrambler rifle just to take him out).
True, but you know you have to say something like '' there are always like 10 scouts!'' in order to gain attention.Even if its a lie.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:18:00 -
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Attention wh()res basically. People that love to complain and have a bunch of people to either back up they're thread and receive likes, or get set straight with the first comment.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:18:00 -
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Scouts are just more OP and anger inducing.
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Stiddlefaxq
Vherokior Combat Logistics
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:22:00 -
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Just be glad they aren't heavies |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see tons of heavys, but I only see like 3-6 scouts on the other team. I'm a cal scout btw so I can see most scouts passively. Most people I see are Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente medium frames. I also see some caldari assaults (one in particular was quite good and made me bring out my scrambler rifle just to take him out). True, but you know you have to say something like '' there are always like 10 scouts!'' in order to gain attention.Even if its a lie.
In the same way people say "there were like 6 Tanks" when there were only 2-3.
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Egypt Musk
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:27:00 -
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As a scout and a hvy and a logi and a commando I can say I run into just as many fully teams of hvys and scouts (9-13 not truly full but close enough to feel like it)
It really matters more on a who your playing and the style of map ...
That being said the QQ nerf the scouts or QQ nerf the hvys or QQ there QQ'n threads are generally lead by those trying to over nerf the opposite of what they run ... much like the OP of this post ...
When just DS respecs were given knew this would happen those under the 30/40/50 mill sp marks were forced to pick a single suit the "smart" ones waited to find out what suit was the most OP be fore specing into said suits ... and now were dealing with it as a community
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:31:00 -
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i see Gallente scout everywhere, good job ccp ,i wanted to spec in Amarr scout u ccp promise to redone amarr scout bonus skill to something decent here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1750552#post1750552 |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:34:00 -
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I see a fake gal scout, 2 proto gal scouts, and an advanced gal scout. Some games it's 2 proto cal scouts and 1 adv/basic cal scout and maybe 1 proto gal scout, but never more than that amount even when their protostomping. It's usually proto heavys with proto logis.
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Egypt Musk
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:39:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see a fake gal scout, 2 proto gal scouts, and an advanced gal scout. Some games it's 2 proto cal scouts and 1 adv/basic cal scout and maybe 1 proto gal scout, but never more than that amount even when their protostomping. It's usually proto heavys with proto logis.
Proving my point and I bet you've NEVER crossed paths with a que synced ronin team either? lol ERMEGERD NEF ALL THE SUITS THAT ARNT MINES! |
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:40:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see a fake gal scout, 2 proto gal scouts, and an advanced gal scout. Some games it's 2 proto cal scouts and 1 adv/basic cal scout and maybe 1 proto gal scout, but never more than that amount even when their protostomping. It's usually proto heavys with proto logis. Proving my point and I bet you've NEVER crossed paths with a que synced ronin team either? lol ERMEGERD NEF ALL THE SUITS THAT ARNT MINES!
They sure love tasting my scrambler rifle and RE's. They even dig my flaylock sometimes.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:51:00 -
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On my Combat Engineer ALT with an Active Scanner a good many of detected targets are clearly not Heavies.
It might be some people are encountering the same squad of scouts across multiple matches so they are getting the impression there are more out there.
That aside the "Spam" argument is often used to justify nerfing. All the biggest nerfs last year had people using it: TAC ARs, Flaylocks, Contact Grenades, Forge Guns, AV Grenades. The merits or specific details didn't matter. It's just one part of the political-nerfing this game suffers from and CCP's delusion they can nerf their way to balance.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:54:00 -
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Depends mostly on the map. A full team of scouts or heavies isn't surprising if the map is right.
It's much easier to notice the guy who killed you or at least put up a fight, while currently, I find the remaining mediums don't do.
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Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:22:00 -
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y u no english?
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:57:00 -
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Oh boy, wait 'till y'all see the R0N1N squads duke it out. 
I honestly don't see that many. How many there actually are is a different story. |
Faquira Bleuetta
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:59:00 -
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fuk u u understand |
Kilo Shells
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Posted - 2014.04.24 18:49:00 -
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Dust.thang.dk shows twice as many scout suits sold compared to assaults, probably because assault suits are twice as good...
True Caldari Assault
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.25 16:45:00 -
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English only please.
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Asha Starwind
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:24:00 -
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Funny. Yesterday, the first 3 matches I played were against teams that consisted of nothing but scouts and if they weren't a scout they were tower snipers or in a tank. MMV, I guess.
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Kilo Shells
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:52:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:You do know that protostompers and people like me buy the suits in the hundreds....right?
Everyone can buy suits by the hundreds? And 1 by 1 or 50 at a time all looks the same over a week...
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:53:00 -
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Well, considering scouts have cloaks, you might not know if the enemy team is really full of scouts.
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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:00:00 -
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If someone is in the city part of a map or the Gal Research Lab then more than likely they're going to see "a lot" of scouts since that's our stomping ground. Just as it is for heavies. Mediums have the advantage of being both an outside and city map player. Not to say that heavies and scouts can't fight on open maps, it's just easier for us to get closer to people in city maps.
Since 1.8 has came out, I've seen less scouts than before actually. I think people hate being squishy or they tank it but still hate about how they killed by squishy scouts. So now I'm seeing more Assaults running around...even some Minmatar. :O
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Zahle Undt
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:00:00 -
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People like hyberbole. As someone who plays scout much of the time, I shouldn't say this. However, CCP did buff a big ol' anti-scout weapon in 1.8. If you are tired of getting killed by us sneaky SOBs I suggest you put some SP and practice into MDs they are like scout Kryptonite as are trained eyes. The eye thing I'm not so great at, but plenty of people see through my cloak.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:03:00 -
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MAN I PLAYED THIS TEAM THAT HAD LIKE 32 HEAVIES T_T
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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:06:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:MAN I PLAYED THIS TEAM THAT HAD LIKE 32 HEAVIES T_T
Did they have 5 logis spamming equipment at a supply depot?
:P
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Yan Darn
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:09:00 -
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It depends on map/gamemode, but unless RON1N or Nyan are playing its generally something like:
30% heavies (Sentinels and commandos)
20% Logis
20% scouts
15% Assaults
15% Starterfits
I feel bad to the starter fit guys - I tend to kill them the most, because on my solo uplink dropping/Hacking adventures, they are the guys randomly dawdling around on their own.
Zahle Undt wrote:People like hyberbole. As someone who plays scout much of the time, I shouldn't say this. However, CCP did buff a big ol' anti-scout weapon in 1.8. If you are tired of getting killed by us sneaky SOBs I suggest you put some SP and practice into MDs they are like scout Kryptonite as are trained eyes. The eye thing I'm not so great at, but plenty of people see through my cloak.
You little...
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Darken-Sol
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see tons of heavys, but I only see like 3-6 scouts on the other team. I'm a cal scout btw so I can see most scouts passively. Most people I see are Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente medium frames. I also see some caldari assaults (one in particular was quite good and made me bring out my scrambler rifle just to take him out). True, but you know you have to say something like '' there are always like 10 scouts!'' in order to gain attention.Even if its a lie. In the same way people say "there were like 6 Tanks" when there were only 2-3.
no, there were 6. Don't try to play it off.
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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:20:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:It depends on map/gamemode, but unless RON1N or Nyan are playing its generally something like: 30% heavies (Sentinels and commandos) 20% Logis 20% scouts 15% Assaults 15% Starterfits I feel bad to the starter fit guys - I tend to kill them the most, because on my solo uplink dropping/Hacking adventures, they are the guys randomly dawdling around on their own. Zahle Undt wrote:People like hyberbole. As someone who plays scout much of the time, I shouldn't say this. However, CCP did buff a big ol' anti-scout weapon in 1.8. If you are tired of getting killed by us sneaky SOBs I suggest you put some SP and practice into MDs they are like scout Kryptonite as are trained eyes. The eye thing I'm not so great at, but plenty of people see through my cloak. You little...
Doesn't everyone kill the poor starter fit people?
:( That's how I get my easy 2 kills after all my 10 deaths. xD
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Hawkings Greenback
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:30:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:MAN I PLAYED THIS TEAM THAT HAD LIKE 32 HEAVIES T_T Did they have 5 logis spamming equipment at a supply depot? :P
Don't start QQ on logi's. It's heavies and scouts that are OP !!
:P
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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:33:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:MAN I PLAYED THIS TEAM THAT HAD LIKE 32 HEAVIES T_T Did they have 5 logis spamming equipment at a supply depot? :P Don't start QQ on logi's. It's heavies and scouts that are OP !! :P
lol Naw logis are actually fine and I don't see anymore slayer logis. I see more logis doing logi things.
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Korvin Lomont
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Well, considering scouts have cloaks, you might not know if the enemy team is really full of scouts.
Well if you see 12 heavies and 4 logis repping them there is not THAT much room for scouts...To be honest I see far more heavies than scouts (and I know how to spot them even when cloaked). But sure every once in a while I encounter a whole squad of scouts but thats rare. I even see still a lot of assault suits. When it comes to scouts I see mostly cal scouts followed by gallente and the minni and amarr.
To be honest the current diversity I encounter on the battlefield is rather nice. BTW I have ner run into a full team of scouts or heavies till now |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:24:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Well, considering scouts have cloaks, you might not know if the enemy team is really full of scouts. Well if you see 12 heavies and 4 logis repping them there is not THAT much room for scouts...To be honest I see far more heavies than scouts (and I know how to spot them even when cloaked). But sure every once in a while I encounter a whole squad of scouts but thats rare. I even see still a lot of assault suits. When it comes to scouts I see mostly cal scouts followed by gallente and the minni and amarr. To be honest the current diversity I encounter on the battlefield is rather nice. BTW I have ner run into a full team of scouts or heavies till now
I know they can be hard to spot, but if it weird I was one standing still in daylight, fully charged my scrambler rifle, and head-shotted him?
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Doyle Reese
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:27:00 -
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I see a lot more Heavies than Scouts, and I see a LOT more Combat Rifles than both |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:29:00 -
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Doyle Reese wrote:I see a lot more Heavies than Scouts, and I see a LOT more Combat Rifles than both
I've been using the Rail Rifle and Scrambler Rifle even more now.
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
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Posted - 2014.04.25 22:26:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see tons of heavys, but I only see like 3-6 scouts on the other team. I'm a cal scout btw so I can see most scouts passively. Most people I see are Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente medium frames. I also see some caldari assaults (one in particular was quite good and made me bring out my scrambler rifle just to take him out).
Ummmm, if 1/4 of each team is AFK in the MCC which is a pretty good bet then 6 scouts = 1/2 of 12 active combatants, so yeah .... numbers. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:38:00 -
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Edit: I hate my phone.
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Kierkegaard Soren
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:48:00 -
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Perception is everything. It feels like the map is swamped with scout frames because they're so fast they can get all over the map, hitting and running as they do so, and as a consequence show up in the kill feed much more often than other suits (in general).
A good scout has a battlefield presence above and beyond what most other suits can achieve.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:54:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Perception is everything. It feels like the map is swamped with scout frames because they're so fast they can get all over the map, hitting and running as they do so, and as a consequence show up in the kill feed much more often than other suits (in general).
A good scout has a battlefield presence above and beyond what most other suits can achieve.
When you detect 13 people who are not scouts on the field...you know those people are full of B.S.
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Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:02:00 -
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I haven't made one of those threads, but I DID see 10 scouts on the enemy team early in 1.8 release.
Now, it's mostly heavies. |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:09:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I haven't made one of those threads, but I DID see 10 scouts on the enemy team early in 1.8 release.
Now, it's mostly heavies.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:36:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I see tons of heavys, but I only see like 3-6 scouts on the other team. I'm a cal scout btw so I can see most scouts passively. Most people I see are Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente medium frames. I also see some caldari assaults (one in particular was quite good and made me bring out my scrambler rifle just to take him out).
you see 3-6 because the other 8 are cloaked >_<
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Korvin Lomont
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:15:00 -
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Doyle Reese wrote:I see a lot more Heavies than Scouts, and I see a LOT more Combat Rifles than both
The Rifle nef has changed nothin its still CR,ACR,RR, ARR and HMG rinse and repeat and now throw in a SG or LR once in a while and you have the average killfeed... |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 10:49:00 -
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WTF - 6x Caldari Scout (EHP 600)
BFEM - 3x Gallante Scout (EHP 700) + 3x Gallante Heavy (EHP 1700)
DC - 6x Madrugar Blaster (EHP 5500)
Everyone has a prefered tryhard setup however I would like to point out the Tryhardinator on Dust.Thang shows a bricktanked gallante scout as the current tryhard fit.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:07:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:WTF - 6x Caldari Scout (EHP 600)
BFEM - 3x Gallante Scout (EHP 700) + 3x Gallante Heavy (EHP 1700)
DC - 6x Madrugar Blaster (EHP 5500)
Everyone has a prefered tryhard setup however I would like to point out the Tryhardinator on Dust.Thang shows a bricktanked gallante scout as the current tryhard fit.
They really need to do something about those armour plates.
Oh and actually make assaults useful.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:26:00 -
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It always feels like there are more scouts than there are because they return so quickly if you kill them. |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:20:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:WTF - 6x Caldari Scout (EHP 600)
BFEM - 3x Gallante Scout (EHP 700) + 3x Gallante Heavy (EHP 1700)
DC - 6x Madrugar Blaster (EHP 5500)
Everyone has a prefered tryhard setup however I would like to point out the Tryhardinator on Dust.Thang shows a bricktanked gallante scout as the current tryhard fit.
They really need to do something about those armour plates. Oh and actually make assaults useful.
An ewar cal scout beats all brock tanked suits. It just needs one flank and boom. Their EHP is useless. Just run away, maybe even chuck a nade at their dead body so a logi can't revive him, and hide and kill the next proto stomper. Easy as that unless you suck at this game.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:44:00 -
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I wonder how many people saying there aren't that many scouts are running scout suits. My first suit is always a scout and on most maps I'd guess almost half the team is running some form of scout. Some maps are mostly heavies.
I just got a gal scout because I can just fit it better than my Min or either of my logi suits. I don't think it makes sense that I can get more HP and more speed in the same suit but I can, so I will.
Because, that's why.
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