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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:35:00 -
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I've probably found a great compatibility for a Minmatar Shotgun, if you've played Red Faction Guerrilla there's a shotgun created by Marauders. They're a group of scavenging tribes that have similarities to what the Minmatar are going though lore wise, but anyway here's the shotgun -
http://redfaction.wikia.com/wiki/Shotgun
Although obviously CCP can't copy it because of Copyright, but they could make it similar but with a different model...
In-Game it's an Pump-Action Shotgun that packs allot of damage, i can remember using this gun on Hard Difficulty killing Elite EDF within 3 - 4 Shots & Online killing players within 2 - 3.
But in Dust translation that would differ, i'll say give it the Gallente Shotgun Stats, but increase damage slightly, slightly lower range (or keep it same), increase reloads speeds slightly, reduce RoF & Give it 8 Mag Size with total ammo capacity of 72.
& that's it, what do you think?
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
731
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:37:00 -
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For me the Min Shotgun will be like a UT Flak cannon.
Lore wise?
They take a Massdriver, add an empty can full of nail.
BUM,
Minmatar Shotgun.
Cal.Heavy-Min.Heavy-Amarr.Heavy
Believe in the FORGE, young padawans
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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
109
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:42:00 -
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Jastad wrote:For me the Min Shotgun will be like a UT Flak cannon.
Lore wise?
They take a Massdriver, add an empty can full of nail.
BUM,
Minmatar Shotgun.
If the minmatar were to do a Shogun, they might as well lock an load it with pellets, nails or shells & pump they foes full of lead. Minmatar got loads of explosives but not enough projectile weapons, unless i miscounted? |
Rizlax Yazzax
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:47:00 -
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Given the Minmatar's affinity for speed I always imagined they'd use an auto-shotgun. Moderate damage, slightly more range than Gallente shotgun. Run into the fray, unload into whatever is in your sights, run away to reload.
Although the amount of QQ the shotgun causes right now, probably not a good idea. |
Lightning xVx
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:50:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:I've probably found a great compatibility for a Minmatar Shotgun, if you've played Red Faction Guerrilla there's a shotgun created by Marauders. They're a group of scavenging tribes that have similarities to what the Minmatar are going though lore wise, but anyway here's the shotgun - http://redfaction.wikia.com/wiki/ShotgunAlthough obviously CCP can't copy it because of Copyright, but they could make it similar but with a different model... In-Game it's an Pump-Action Shotgun that packs allot of damage, i can remember using this gun on Hard Difficulty killing Elite EDF within 3 - 4 Shots & Online killing players within 2 - 3. But in Dust translation that would differ, i'll say give it the Gallente Shotgun Stats, but increase damage slightly, slightly lower range (or keep it same), increase reloads speeds slightly, reduce RoF & Give it 8 Mag Size with total ammo capacity of 72. & that's it, what do you think?
For me I wanted a Minmatar Shotgun for AWHILE, it should have (IMO):
1.) Less damage (Proto Medium takes 3-4 shots instead it would be 4-5, for heavies instead of 3-4 it would be 5-6)
2.) 5-6 shells in barrel (7 maxed possibly) and less Ammo. (like 20-22 for basic and 25-27 max skills)
3.) Shoot incredibly fast
4.) Reload fast-er
5.) Be more primarily CPU based |
Buwaro Draemon
Science For Death
153
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:55:00 -
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We most kindly wnont be seeing racial shotguns. Why? Because each race has their specialty weapon
-Gallente= shotgun
-Caldari= Sniper Rifle
-Amarr= Laser Rifle (and please dont say that the Laser Rifle is the Amarr sniper rifle. As even CCP stayed it that it is not)
-Minmatar= Mass Drivers
"tries to flank"
"gets butt raped by cloaked scout"
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A recent Recruit
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:55:00 -
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Id like to have a double barrel Minmitar shotgun. Allow it to fire 2 rounds simultaneously, but give it a longer reload time and animation, where you have to load each shell. That would just be awesome and totally brutal. Would fit the Minmitar ethos of hit and run, shock and awe, guerilla warfare ethos. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:56:00 -
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My min shotty is called a mass driver.
Assassination is my thing.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4002
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:10:00 -
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Medium range, automatic, low damage per shot, but high DPS.
Search AA12 on Youtube. Everyone's favourite russian has a great video on them.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:13:00 -
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Rizlax Yazzax wrote:Given the Minmatar's affinity for speed I always imagined they'd use an auto-shotgun. Moderate damage, slightly more range than Gallente shotgun. Run into the fray, unload into whatever is in your sights, run away to reload.
Although the amount of QQ the shotgun causes right now, probably not a good idea.
Auto Shotgun?
Very minmatar. So Wow. Much Loud.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
422
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:14:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Medium range, automatic, low damage per shot, but high DPS.
Search AA12 on Youtube. Everyone's favourite russian has a great video on them.
This is what it should be. Minnie guns are supposed to be (generally) rapid fire, automatic weapons with lots of kick. An AA-12 type shottie would fit into Dust's Minmatar combat philosophy very easily, and add a some more variety to CQC action. It should probably have a decreased optimal range, but a longer max range, so it can still hit people at a distance of 10m for, say, 50-60% damage.
Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5964
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:14:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:My min shotty is called a mass driver.
That's Breach MD sir.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4002
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:16:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Medium range, automatic, low damage per shot, but high DPS.
Search AA12 on Youtube. Everyone's favourite russian has a great video on them. This is what it should be. Minnie guns are supposed to be (generally) rapid fire, automatic weapons with lots of kick. An AA-12 type shottie would fit into Dust's Minmatar combat philosophy very easily, and add a some more variety to CQC action. It should probably have a decreased optimal range, but a longer max range, so it can still hit people at a distance of 10m for, say, 50-60% damage.
It'd be wicked on the Minmando too 
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Krom Ganesh
Nos Nothi
1519
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:17:00 -
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If they do make racial shotguns, I hope they are like this:
Min Shotugn
Full-auto
Less dps than Gal Shotgun
More range than Gal Shotgun
Less Dispersion than Gal Shotgun
Larger clip capacity
Comparable to the USAS 12
Amarr Shotgun
Semi-auto
More range than Min Shotgun
Little dispersion
Similar clip capacity to Gal Shotgun
Lower RoF than Gal Shotgun
Essentially a laser buck shot
Caldari Shotgun
Semi-auto
Most range of shotguns
No dispersion
1 shot in clip
Very high damage (1HKO on mediums and lights)
Medium-high or high reload time
Essentially an elephant gun |
Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:03:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:We most kindly wnont be seeing racial shotguns. Why? Because each race has their specialty weapon
-Gallente= shotgun
-Caldari= Sniper Rifle
-Amarr= Laser Rifle (and please dont say that the Laser Rifle is the Amarr sniper rifle. As even CCP stayed it that it is not)
-Minmatar= Mass Drivers
CCP also said that there would be racial variants of all the weapons. The AR had placeholders for the other racial ARs. The shotgun has your standard, breach and specialist (but isn't the last just reduced fitting?). Running by that, there would only be a Gallente/Caldari shotgun, and also on that topic: there's an assault and breach Mass Driver. That means there will be a Caldari missile weapon (light) and a Gallente plasma 'splosive weapon (light). Or at least that's what it seems would be. otherwise, why are there "breach" and "assault" variants of other weapons when they aren't even in the same category. Class, sure, but not category.
Since there is supposed to be a variant for each of the races in ARs for the others, that means that there will be the following:
Assault Rifle
Breach Assault Rifle
Tactical Assault Rifle
Burst Assault Rifle
This translates to:
Rail Rifle
Assault Rail Rifle
Tactical Rail Rifle
Burst Rail Rifle
Combat Rifle
Assault Combat Rifle
Breach Combat Rifle
Tactical Combat Rifle
Scrambler Rifle
Assault Scrambler Rifle
Breach Scrambler Rifle
Burst Scrambler Rifle
I am not too sure about the Laser Rifle since a Burst Laser Rifle would in effect be more of a Burst Scrambler Rifle, but with a longer range and less damage since "damage build up" resets when the trigger is let up or the weapon overheats. The same goes for an "Assault Laser Rifle" and a "Breach Laser Rifle". I think for something like the LR a "Breach variant would be closer range, higher damage output (as per the norm) and increased heat build up.
Now, in terms of shotguns, I am pretty sure there will be racial variants for all the weapons, just in a more "unique" way. For instance, in terms of light AV, we have the Caldari's missile Swarm Launcher and the Gallente's Plasma Cannon. Both of them suck, but both are light AV and of a unique variety. There will likely be a Minmatar light AV weapon (explosive-based) and an Amarr light AV (shield based), but of which are unbeknownst to us all, but I digress.
Wen it comes to shotguns there will most likely be a racial variant for them as well. The Gallente shotgun fires super-heated plasma in multiple "pellets" made to raep shields. The Minmatar Shotgun would be more of an actual lead-based or explosive based weapon, blasting the hell out of armor. My bet would be explosive because in a more realistic approach Minmatar bullet weapons wouldn't punch through shite, but that's besides the point.
The Amarr shotgun would be a longer ranged, charge up shotgun. It can be fired in rapid succession akin to the ScR and overheats as well, doing less damage, but on a charge shot and at its optimal range, would annihilate almost anything because of the pre-heated laser. It would also be a precision shotgun similar to the Caldari's. The Caldari shotgun would also be a charge-shotgun, except railgun based and with a longer range. This shotgun would be more akin to firing slugs, except high velocity (10G?) rounds at a slow/moderate interval.
Aside from those, the Minmatar's Mass Driver would likely stay as a unique AI weapon as I do not have any idea what the other racial variants of that would be, aside from the Caldari variant which would be similar to a Forgegun. Pinpoint and large blast radius.
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
424
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:32:00 -
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Don't feel each race should necessarily have their own variant of each weapon type, though if Min were going to have a shotgun, a burst version would be amusing. I'd much rather see each race get more unique and "specialty" weapons or the ability to modify existing stuff first. Caldari and shotgun doesn't really go together, for instance. If they were to bring back dumbfire swarms, however... |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
335
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:53:00 -
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Sorry, but going off of this old Dev Blog:
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/
We shouldn't expect any more weapons except a Heavy Plasma weapon and a Heavy Laser.
with that the infantry lineup will be complete and CCP can work on Vehicles, or making more content for the MMO side, or give us more game modes, or fixing PCGǪ.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Ander Thedas
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
541
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:57:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:I've probably found a great compatibility for a Minmatar Shotgun, if you've played Red Faction Guerrilla there's a shotgun created by Marauders. They're a group of scavenging tribes that have similarities to what the Minmatar are going though lore wise, but anyway here's the shotgun - http://redfaction.wikia.com/wiki/ShotgunAlthough obviously CCP can't copy it because of Copyright, but they could make it similar but with a different model... In-Game it's an Pump-Action Shotgun that packs allot of damage, i can remember using this gun on Hard Difficulty killing Elite EDF within 3 - 4 Shots & Online killing players within 2 - 3. But in Dust translation that would differ, i'll say give it the Gallente Shotgun Stats, but increase damage slightly, slightly lower range (or keep it same), increase reloads speeds slightly, reduce RoF & Give it 8 Mag Size with total ammo capacity of 72. & that's it, what do you think?
That looks way more Sansha than it does Minmatar.
Omnia mutantur nihil interit
FW lvl10 reward
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1344
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Posted - 2014.04.23 20:30:00 -
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I want a caldari shotgun. pump action(I mean a heavy pump here, like the one from CoD 3, with the trench gun BAM! Ka-CHUNCK), high accuracy, high range(for a shotgun), and lower damage in exchange for all that(probably achieved with lower pellet count per shot.)
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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