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Awry Barux wrote:

Tectonic Fusion wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:

I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]?
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Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring.
I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated?

Yes, absolutely proto it out if you're going to use it. Plus, getting some points into Proficiency is really crucial if you want to get through everyone and their armor plate stacking mother.

The Charge is the only variant I can stand to use, personally, since otherwise the lack of alpha damage means that you can really only consistently kill people who are running across the middle of large open spaces. You should try to get the hang of the charge double tap- fully charged shot, ideally to the head, then quickly deciding if you can follow up with a half-charged shot or need another full charge.

The Kalaakiota Tactical is really only useful for counter-sniping for the double/triple tap to the head, though it's definitely great at that. It's my weapon of choice for putting an end to Thales. Against non-snipers it lacks alpha- people will start strafing and hopping after the first hit and generally will be in cover after the second.

The Ishukone (AKA regular) sniper just gets simply out-done by the other two options. Low DPS, low alpha... good for suppression I guess with the big clip size, but it's still just not that great.

The main problem with being a sniper is that it's not a role you can use every match. The map has to be right, and your enemies have to be playing in a particular way- i.e. spending lots of time in exposed, but valuable, tactical positions. IMO the best map for sniping is Fracture Road in Dom- the match almost always comes down to who controls the ledges above the objective, and it's completely exposed to sniping from the rooftops of the complex that is B in Skirmish. Manus peak is good for sniping as well, for obvious reasons. The bridge map is hit or miss depending on how your enemies are playing it, but sometimes it's also a good shooting gallery.

Didn't CCP change it so the weapon is useless against armor? E.g. proficiency skill doesn't effect armor?

Nope, it's a rail weapon, its proficiency bonus is to armor. *shudders* it would be nearly unusable otherwise.

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PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1201	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:28:00 - [1] - Quote I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all. SCP and IP user, watch out for that +60 951k SP and counting
Cyrus Militani Leon Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:34:00 - [2] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? How much are you skilled into the sniper rifles? If you're barely skilled into it I would take it one step at a time. Start with with basic. Once you get comfortable with that move up to advanced (lvl 3). Then move up to 4. Nothing is worse than spending a bunch of SP to get to proto only to find out you hate something. I started out sniping because I snipe in other FPS games. I pretty much abandoned it because of how boring it was and how few points I was getting. I only snipe when there are other enemy snipers, only for the thrill of sniping them and watch them squirm (you have to be well hidden in non-obvious spots). In once took out 3 snipers on a tower with proto gear with a lvl 1 tactical sniper from the ground.
Tectonic Fusion 1525	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:36:00 - [3] - Quote I have level 5 and I still can't get this thing to work. Hit detection is wonky, but I think it's just the way CCP designed the aiming speed. In Battlefield I can drag scope and hit moving targets with good accuracy, but in Dust, it just seems to go slightly further than the target when I crouch. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2071	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:39:00 - [4] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? Yes, absolutely proto it out if you're going to use it. Plus, getting some points into Proficiency is really crucial if you want to get through everyone and their armor plate stacking mother. The Charge is the only variant I can stand to use, personally, since otherwise the lack of alpha damage means that you can really only consistently kill people who are running across the middle of large open spaces. You should try to get the hang of the charge double tap- fully charged shot, ideally to the head, then quickly deciding if you can follow up with a half-charged shot or need another full charge. The Kalaakiota Tactical is really only useful for counter-sniping for the double/triple tap to the head, though it's definitely great at that. It's my weapon of choice for putting an end to Thales. Against non-snipers it lacks alpha- people will start strafing and hopping after the first hit and generally will be in cover after the second. The Ishukone (AKA regular) sniper just gets simply out-done by the other two options. Low DPS, low alpha... good for suppression I guess with the big clip size, but it's still just not that great. Edit: The main problem with being a sniper is that it's not a role you can use every match. The map has to be right, and your enemies have to be playing in a particular way- i.e. spending lots of time in exposed, but valuable, tactical positions. IMO the best map for sniping is Fracture Road in Dom- the match almost always comes down to who controls the ledges above the objective, and it's completely exposed to sniping from the rooftops of the complex that is B in Skirmish. Manus peak is good for sniping as well, for obvious reasons. The bridge map is hit or miss depending on how your enemies are playing it, but sometimes it's also a good shooting gallery. Nerdier than thou
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1201	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:40:00 - [5] - Quote Cyrus Militani wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? How much are you skilled into the sniper rifles? If you're barely skilled into it I would take it one step at a time. Start with with basic. Once you get comfortable with that move up to advanced (lvl 3). Then move up to 4. Nothing is worse than spending a bunch of SP to get to proto only to find out you hate something. I started out sniping because I snipe in other FPS games. I pretty much abandoned it because of how boring it was and how few points I was getting. I only snipe when there are other enemy snipers, only for the thrill of sniping them and watch them squirm (you have to be well hidden in non-obvious spots). I recently took out 3 snipers on a tower with proto gear with a lvl 1 tactical sniper from the ground. It was awesome. But I logi most of the time. I have NT-11 rifle with ammo and reload 1. I enjoy sniping, its just finding the right spots and tightening my aim. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all. SCP and IP user, watch out for that +60 951k SP and counting
Tectonic Fusion 1525	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:43:00 - [6] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? Yes, absolutely proto it out if you're going to use it. Plus, getting some points into Proficiency is really crucial if you want to get through everyone and their armor plate stacking mother. The Charge is the only variant I can stand to use, personally, since otherwise the lack of alpha damage means that you can really only consistently kill people who are running across the middle of large open spaces. You should try to get the hang of the charge double tap- fully charged shot, ideally to the head, then quickly deciding if you can follow up with a half-charged shot or need another full charge. The Kalaakiota Tactical is really only useful for counter-sniping for the double/triple tap to the head, though it's definitely great at that. It's my weapon of choice for putting an end to Thales. Against non-snipers it lacks alpha- people will start strafing and hopping after the first hit and generally will be in cover after the second. The Ishukone (AKA regular) sniper just gets simply out-done by the other two options. Low DPS, low alpha... good for suppression I guess with the big clip size, but it's still just not that great. The main problem with being a sniper is that it's not a role you can use every match. The map has to be right, and your enemies have to be playing in a particular way- i.e. spending lots of time in exposed, but valuable, tactical positions. IMO the best map for sniping is Fracture Road in Dom- the match almost always comes down to who controls the ledges above the objective, and it's completely exposed to sniping from the rooftops of the complex that is B in Skirmish. Manus peak is good for sniping as well, for obvious reasons. The bridge map is hit or miss depending on how your enemies are playing it, but sometimes it's also a good shooting gallery. Didn't CCP change it so the weapon is useless against armor? E.g. proficiency skill doesn't effect armor? EDIT: Also cough cough damage mod nerf cough cough Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2071	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:44:00 - [7] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Awry Barux wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? Yes, absolutely proto it out if you're going to use it. Plus, getting some points into Proficiency is really crucial if you want to get through everyone and their armor plate stacking mother. The Charge is the only variant I can stand to use, personally, since otherwise the lack of alpha damage means that you can really only consistently kill people who are running across the middle of large open spaces. You should try to get the hang of the charge double tap- fully charged shot, ideally to the head, then quickly deciding if you can follow up with a half-charged shot or need another full charge. The Kalaakiota Tactical is really only useful for counter-sniping for the double/triple tap to the head, though it's definitely great at that. It's my weapon of choice for putting an end to Thales. Against non-snipers it lacks alpha- people will start strafing and hopping after the first hit and generally will be in cover after the second. The Ishukone (AKA regular) sniper just gets simply out-done by the other two options. Low DPS, low alpha... good for suppression I guess with the big clip size, but it's still just not that great. The main problem with being a sniper is that it's not a role you can use every match. The map has to be right, and your enemies have to be playing in a particular way- i.e. spending lots of time in exposed, but valuable, tactical positions. IMO the best map for sniping is Fracture Road in Dom- the match almost always comes down to who controls the ledges above the objective, and it's completely exposed to sniping from the rooftops of the complex that is B in Skirmish. Manus peak is good for sniping as well, for obvious reasons. The bridge map is hit or miss depending on how your enemies are playing it, but sometimes it's also a good shooting gallery. Didn't CCP change it so the weapon is useless against armor? E.g. proficiency skill doesn't effect armor? Nope, it's a rail weapon, its proficiency bonus is to armor. shudders it would be nearly unusable otherwise. Nerdier than thou
Tectonic Fusion 1525	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:46:00 - [8] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Awry Barux wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? Yes, absolutely proto it out if you're going to use it. Plus, getting some points into Proficiency is really crucial if you want to get through everyone and their armor plate stacking mother. The Charge is the only variant I can stand to use, personally, since otherwise the lack of alpha damage means that you can really only consistently kill people who are running across the middle of large open spaces. You should try to get the hang of the charge double tap- fully charged shot, ideally to the head, then quickly deciding if you can follow up with a half-charged shot or need another full charge. The Kalaakiota Tactical is really only useful for counter-sniping for the double/triple tap to the head, though it's definitely great at that. It's my weapon of choice for putting an end to Thales. Against non-snipers it lacks alpha- people will start strafing and hopping after the first hit and generally will be in cover after the second. The Ishukone (AKA regular) sniper just gets simply out-done by the other two options. Low DPS, low alpha... good for suppression I guess with the big clip size, but it's still just not that great. The main problem with being a sniper is that it's not a role you can use every match. The map has to be right, and your enemies have to be playing in a particular way- i.e. spending lots of time in exposed, but valuable, tactical positions. IMO the best map for sniping is Fracture Road in Dom- the match almost always comes down to who controls the ledges above the objective, and it's completely exposed to sniping from the rooftops of the complex that is B in Skirmish. Manus peak is good for sniping as well, for obvious reasons. The bridge map is hit or miss depending on how your enemies are playing it, but sometimes it's also a good shooting gallery. Didn't CCP change it so the weapon is useless against armor? E.g. proficiency skill doesn't effect armor? Nope, it's a rail weapon, its proficiency bonus is to armor. shudders it would be nearly unusable otherwise. Oops...my derp. I remember someone told me in another sniper post that it was super effective against shields...weird. But yeah...the gun isn't particularly useful aside from cleaning out the enemy snipers. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
geofferyg low-tax The OORT Cloud 6	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:52:00 - [9] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? My partner trained the skill for sniping up to 5 when he was actually playing the game () during closed beta. I find the Advance snipers fine to use. I like the N15(? It's N something). As for suits I use a Logi, Templar logistics. And positions, something out of the box and not really thought of as a "sniping spot" and hidden. DUST 514 - He started, She finished.... well continues. Australian Gamer Woman & Wife. ALT - Araminta Jericho
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 618	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:54:00 - [10] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm not going to call myself a 'sniper' cause I'm not. When your really good, you only need one. So, any tips for an person that uses a rifle bigger then he is [scout]? ==== Please don't talk about how sniping is dead and how sniper rifles are broken, or 'don't'. I don't like being in the redline, its boring. I have the SP to get proto rifle so should I if I'm dedicated? Sniping is in a null zone at the moment meaning , I don't know what direction CCP is going with this role since you just don't see any attention given to it and any little thing might make it OP or just ruin the place it is at the moment and that's alright to me right now . Other's might ask for an increase in damage but my prof is almost maxed out so I just don't have a problem with sniping right now . If you know the maps as an infantry that helps because knowing maps are key to sniping and you will find out that there just are not too many sniping spots on most maps at the moment and again , I don't have a problem with that either but that also creates " Placement Burnout " of spots meaning , most snipers will already know where you are so don't get upset at those who are counter-sniping but then again , watch out for that and them as well as scouts that sniper-hunt . As far as suits , I use Commando most of the time for the damage bonus and my sensory skills are at four but I might just start using scout suits because I can't see them otherwise . To each is own . Yes invest if your serious but keep moving . You will even start to have a " spider-sense " as to when it's time to move from one spot to the next . I get caught because I just don't listen to myself and someone takes advantage of that but that's just how I play in my overall game and in life too , sad to say . Trust yourself and listen to your gut . Get your head on a swivel , it might seem boring and you might think that no one knows where you are and are not looking for you or at you but don't get comfortable . Believe me , when you least expect it .. that's when it happens ... BOOM . Dam ... sorry , I just got caught up and I hope for your success ( Just not against me ) if this is a role that you choose . You will realize that some maps , you will not have much choice about redline sniping . I try not to do it ... notice I said " Try " but ... all I can say is " You will see for yourself " . GL . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2073	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:56:00 - [11] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Didn't cercerpee cherge teh prerferciency blagahmergabemd? E.g. proficiency skill doesn't effect armor? EDIT: Also cough cough damage mod nerf cough cough EDIT 2: Fixed* Lulz dat edit. But yes, the damage mod nerf was a way bigger kick in the teeth for snipers than it was for any of the rifles, or really any other weapon with the possible exception of AV. It pretty much killed sniping for me. I almost never do it offensively any more, and defensively only when I see a Thale's on the killfeed or there's a bunch of idiots sitting on top of a tower. When my Prof 3 4x complex damage modded 77k ISK Charge sniper can't OHK some militia medium frames, it's just too frustrating. In the words of people who defend the HMG: "The snipers' one role is killing people from afar... god forbid they actually be good at it." Nerdier than thou
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:09:00 - [12] - Quote You may want to check out a post I just made. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2079805#post2079805 *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1201	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:16:00 - [13] - Quote keno trader wrote: You may want to check out a post I just made. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2079805#post2079805 Thank you. Its funny, when I first sniped, I always had my nano right next to me, and never got counter sniped. Now that I hide it, I get sniped a lot more. I don't know. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all. SCP and IP user, watch out for that +60 951k SP and counting
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 620	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:43:00 - [14] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: keno trader wrote: You may want to check out a post I just made. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2079805#post2079805 Thank you. Its funny, when I first sniped, I always had my nano right next to me, and never got counter sniped. Now that I hide it, I get sniped a lot more. I don't know. Snipers know snipers and they look for indicators . They prob would never expect you to place it where you are . Hell I sit on mines sometimes , using the glow to make it harder to spot me but I have to be in the right place at the right time to do that , an experienced sniper will see that and place one between my eyes . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Keeriam Miray R 0 N 1 N 327	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:49:00 - [15] - Quote I'll take you with me... there will be some magic you won't believe until you face it, but it all goes to CCP = Can't Code Properly you will hear footsteps at 130m+ you will see ppl that can be seen or killed only from certain location you already familiar with paranormal activity of HD & floating hitboxes, sometime they just don't exist mostly for limited time (not joking) & i'll show you giant bulletproof invisible walls, they not just stops any projectile (only projectiles), but making enemy immune from rendering almost at any distance This is just few last discoveries i made, that constant to maps & architecture -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦-ï-+ -+-+-¦-¦-é -¦-ï-é-î -é-+-+-î-¦-+ -+-+-¦-+-¦-+-+-¦. -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦...
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2082	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:55:00 - [16] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: keno trader wrote: You may want to check out a post I just made. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2079805#post2079805 Thank you. Its funny, when I first sniped, I always had my nano right next to me, and never got counter sniped. Now that I hide it, I get sniped a lot more. I don't know. Snipers know snipers and they look for indicators . They prob would never expect you to place it where you are . Hell I sit on mines sometimes , using the glow to make it harder to spot me but I have to be in the right place at the right time to do that , an experienced sniper will see that and place one between my eyes . ^this. When I'm really, really looking for someone, I'll pull up the overview map and zoom in until I see their uplinks/nanohives. It's not perfect but it definitely gives a general idea of where they are. Nerdier than thou
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 159	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:57:00 - [17] - Quote Not to mention the miniwalls of the outdoor null cannons that block a great deal of the hostile when he's usually in plain sight from a certain angle. Sheer luck on their part.


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