I can kill you WITHOUT the cloak.

You're just looking for ways to nerf a Gallente weapon.

Nerf cr's!!

if you spent more time looking for this in stead of the red Doritos chips above our heads maybe you would fair better.

granted in bright areas we come close to fully invisible but the opposite it true for dark areas.

and if you ask me, you should be able to hold your weapons and equipment while under your cloak; only decloaking when they are shot/used.

How did you know he wasn't UN cloaked if he shot you from behind?

So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P

I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you thinnk?

What do I think?

I think no one, and I mean NO ONE, is cloaking, then running straight up to you, still facing you, and then shooting you with their shotgun. No one. You are being shot from behind. So how does the 1/4 second of SHIMMER prior to full decloaking make ANY difference in the outcome?

I cannot believe almost a full month into 1.8 and this good forum is still being subjected to these absurd shotgun/cloak threads.

Any scout worth their salt was shotgunning from behind long before cloaks. To stand toe to toe in a scout suit is suicide. It is a perfectly viable strategy and really the only counter to fatties with HMG's.

Jeeesus, quit yer belly achin'. You would complain if you were hung with a new rope.

Well Gallente is pretty darn messed up already :P you see the difference in Caldari and Gallente tanks...oh yeah very big on HP there and how about the range of those blaster turrets on the tanks too ;D or perhaps that a MLT gallente scout can get up to 600 shields and armor and a Caldari is stuck at about 200 shields and 100 armor?

Cool. BTW an assault suit can run over 7m a second. Get level 1 in Biotics Upgrades. Also he can be fully cloaked...
Is it weird that I get killed my a combat rifle in 1/8 games? The ACR is the only variant that kills me, but that's only because of the "webble" effect.

So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P

I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?

Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too?

Listen to your surroundings at all times. Remember to always check your six. Focus and re-focus your eyes in open areas. If I see little faint blue lines that is moving across the screen, I know it isn't the volcano. I start shooting.

First Mate: Captain we are surrounded!
Captain: Excellent we can fire in any direct!

^^did not read a lick past the title.

I know what you mean i spend more time looking for the shimmer and the dorritos i dont worry about cuz its almost impossible to scan the suit down ;p but i dont mind that, thats what the cloak does im not worried about how hard or easy the cloak is too see but by how the cloak and shotguns devistate the battlefield by moving fast..invisible...and kill in 1 hit lol

So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P

I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?

Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too?

So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P

I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?

Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too?

ill get the cr rpm nerfed just for you... next time you log in, the rpm will be 1200 instead of 1400

The mass of scout kills from behind has never been this bad. ever. my DREN with zero points in shotgun or scout wrecks heavies. That's just stupid. Also, 3 shotting a lvl5 sentinel before they can turn around is BS. Scouts are the new slayer logics, except they're invisible with the Golden Gun. TAC rifles were not this annoying. I had a nova knifer run through my HMG fire (adv, with lvl4 prof) and nova knife me for over 1500 damage in a sentinel suit.

So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P

I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?

Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too?

I think no one, and I mean NO ONE, is cloaking, then running straight up to you, still facing you, and then shooting you with their shotgun. No one. You are being shot from behind. So how does the 1/4 second of SHIMMER prior to full decloaking make ANY difference in the outcome?

Listen to your surroundings at all times.

It takes 3-5 shots to kill a heavy, and we rarely get more than 3 before getting blown away by their HMGs. Also, the shotgun has pretty bad hit detection, so don't complain.

it takes ~1 second to kill a heavy with a shotgun. you have 8xx DPS in your hands with the advantage of the first hit with huge alpha against a target with huge hitbox.

You must have a totally different SG the highest base damage of any SG (the allotek breach) is something like 630 HP damage on a breach variant with only two shots

creodron shotgun
Damage per pellet 44 [50.6 with proficiencies]
pellets per Round 12
Rate of Fire 85.71 RPM
DPS without reload 754.25 [867.39 with proficiencies]

allotek breach
Damage per pellet 52.8 [60.72 with proficiencies]
pellets per Round 12
Rate of Fire 60 RPM
DPS without reload 633.6 [728.64 with proficiencies]

conclusion: dont use a breach against fully specialized sentinels unless you are sure that you can headshot them with both shots fully.