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AngelflamesP
Dragon Fire Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:15:00 -
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So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P
I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?
Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too? |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2421
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:17:00 -
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I can kill you WITHOUT the cloak.
You're just looking for ways to nerf a Gallente weapon. |
Doctor Day
THE SUPERHEROS
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:21:00 -
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But srsly,Cr needs to be nerf My Cr takes out senitels
Maybe its because i have a Minmatar commadno...
Obvious troll is Obvious
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AngelflamesP
Dragon Fire Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:21:00 -
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Well Gallente is pretty darn messed up already :P you see the difference in Caldari and Gallente tanks...oh yeah very big on HP there and how about the range of those blaster turrets on the tanks too ;D or perhaps that a MLT gallente scout can get up to 600 shields and armor and a Caldari is stuck at about 200 shields and 100 armor? |
ugg reset
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:24:00 -
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clearly you're new here. have a like and shut up.
Thr33 is the magic number.
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1LTNORFLEET's GIRLFRIEND
ZionTCO
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:25:00 -
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idk ccp soundwave said along time ago " you tell me who has been harmed by an afk cloaker and he/she has no right to play this game " well technically if his keyboard is in the other room and hes cloaked and he kills you would that not be justifiable |
1LTNORFLEET's GIRLFRIEND
ZionTCO
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:28:00 -
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as well i support the module slot changes if a caldari high slot is a midslot in eve why are most of the mid slot modules fitted to low slots on dust |
Asha Starwind
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:33:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I can kill you WITHOUT the cloak.
You're just looking for ways to nerf a Gallente weapon.
^^did not read a lick past the title.
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Doctor Day
THE SUPERHEROS
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:37:00 -
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Nerf cr's!!
Obvious troll is Obvious
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AngelflamesP
Dragon Fire Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:46:00 -
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Doctor Day wrote:Nerf cr's!!
Highly Agreed |
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ugg reset
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:52:00 -
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if you spent more time looking for this in stead of the red Doritos chips above our heads maybe you would fair better.
granted in bright areas we come close to fully invisible but the opposite it true for dark areas.
and if you ask me, you should be able to hold your weapons and equipment while under your cloak; only decloaking when they are shot/used.
Thr33 is the magic number.
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AngelflamesP
Dragon Fire Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:56:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:if you spent more time looking for this in stead of the red Doritos chips above our heads maybe you would fair better. granted in bright areas we come close to fully invisible but the opposite it true for dark areas. and if you ask me, you should be able to hold your weapons and equipment while under your cloak; only decloaking when they are shot/used.
I know what you mean i spend more time looking for the shimmer and the dorritos i dont worry about cuz its almost impossible to scan the suit down ;p but i dont mind that, thats what the cloak does im not worried about how hard or easy the cloak is too see but by how the cloak and shotguns devistate the battlefield by moving fast..invisible...and kill in 1 hit lol |
Yeeeuuuupppp
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.23 02:12:00 -
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How did you know he wasn't UN cloaked if he shot you from behind?
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.23 02:24:00 -
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tey were going to let them shoot while invis lol ccp are the worse at game balancing iv ever seen other then over seas mmos ......... wait this is made over there loo . all they need is to say whn you decloak the timer resets at zero . not this kill and recloak . uppers cloaks let you stay cloaked longer not bounce in and out of sight at will |
AngelflamesP
Dragon Fire Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.23 02:26:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:How did you know he wasn't UN cloaked if he shot you from behind? I never said anything about me knowing if they were cloaked or not if they killed me from behing but it kind of is a dead obvious if he is in a proto scout with a shotgun in the middle of the battlefield because why would you risk your suit getting killed when everyone can see you when you can be invisible right? |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.23 02:30:00 -
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Cool. BTW an assault suit can run over 7m a second. Get level 1 in Biotics Upgrades. Also he can be fully cloaked... Is it weird that I get killed my a combat rifle in 1/8 games? The ACR is the only variant that kills me, but that's only because of the "webble" effect.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.04.23 02:42:00 -
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AngelflamesP wrote:So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P
I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you thinnk?
What do I think?
I think no one, and I mean NO ONE, is cloaking, then running straight up to you, still facing you, and then shooting you with their shotgun. No one. You are being shot from behind. So how does the 1/4 second of SHIMMER prior to full decloaking make ANY difference in the outcome?
I cannot believe almost a full month into 1.8 and this good forum is still being subjected to these absurd shotgun/cloak threads.
Any scout worth their salt was shotgunning from behind long before cloaks. To stand toe to toe in a scout suit is suicide. It is a perfectly viable strategy and really the only counter to fatties with HMG's.
Jeeesus, quit yer belly achin'. You would complain if you were hung with a new rope.
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Dericha
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:01:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:AngelflamesP wrote:So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P
I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you thinnk? What do I think? I think no one, and I mean NO ONE, is cloaking, then running straight up to you, still facing you, and then shooting you with their shotgun. No one. You are being shot from behind. So how does the 1/4 second of SHIMMER prior to full decloaking make ANY difference in the outcome? I cannot believe almost a full month into 1.8 and this good forum is still being subjected to these absurd shotgun/cloak threads. Any scout worth their salt was shotgunning from behind long before cloaks. To stand toe to toe in a scout suit is suicide. It is a perfectly viable strategy and really the only counter to fatties with HMG's. Jeeesus, quit yer belly achin'. You would complain if you were hung with a new rope.
Says a shotgunner? The mass of scout kills from behind has never been this bad. ever. my DREN with zero points in shotgun or scout wrecks heavies. That's just stupid. Also, 3 shotting a lvl5 sentinel before they can turn around is BS. Scouts are the new slayer logics, except they're invisible with the Golden Gun. TAC rifles were not this annoying. I had a nova knifer run through my HMG fire (adv, with lvl4 prof) and nova knife me for over 1500 damage in a sentinel suit.
The part that really pisses me off is CCP had a chance with 1.8 to make this game more strategic. Now, with the new scouts, everything is like a bad game of ambush. No one wants to hack objectives in skirmish. |
Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
237
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:02:00 -
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AngelflamesP wrote:Well Gallente is pretty darn messed up already :P you see the difference in Caldari and Gallente tanks...oh yeah very big on HP there and how about the range of those blaster turrets on the tanks too ;D or perhaps that a MLT gallente scout can get up to 600 shields and armor and a Caldari is stuck at about 200 shields and 100 armor?
So im not the only one who sees these ******* mlt scouts running over 600 ehp. Good i thought i was going insane. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
2430
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:08:00 -
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Such a complex issue.
In a balanced game, I'd tell you to HTFU and run a cal scout or gal logi, either fit for scanning; but I can't because I Scout gk.0 with 3 Complex Dampeners is undetectable by anything. This is broken.
Yes, the scout gk.0 SHOULD be extremely hard to find when dampened as it is intended to be but only to the point that the only suits which can find it would be Scout CK.0s and Logistics GK.0s with 4 precision amps (complex) or 1 Proto focused active scanner, respectively.
You, however, are simply whining...still, you bring up a valid point- no suit should be 100% undetectable.
Now, perhaps if we had Squad Leader versions of each suit which amplified traits of suits in its class when in the same squad, then we could play around with it but I digress...
Yes, the Gk.0 is, by definition, overpowered in its intended purpose, but cloaks and shotguns are very balanced. Combat rifles, on the other hand, need to be changed along with all projectile weapons so the damage is +5%/-5%, rather than +10%/-5%
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Trenix Keltron
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
176
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:11:00 -
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Listen to your surroundings at all times. Remember to always check your six. Focus and re-focus your eyes in open areas. If I see little faint blue lines that is moving across the screen, I know it isn't the volcano. I start shooting.
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AngelflamesP
Dragon Fire Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:11:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Cool. BTW an assault suit can run over 7m a second. Get level 1 in Biotics Upgrades. Also he can be fully cloaked... Is it weird that I get killed my a combat rifle in 1/8 games? The ACR is the only variant that kills me, but that's only because of the "webble" effect.
not any assault and i have dropsuit biotics to lvl 4 :P it only increses it by about " . somthing " lol plus thats more over the minmatar as it is supposed to be faster suit than gallente or caldari in the medium class
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
279
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:17:00 -
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AngelflamesP wrote:So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P
I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?
Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too?
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
279
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:19:00 -
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Trenix Keltron wrote:Listen to your surroundings at all times. Remember to always check your six. Focus and re-focus your eyes in open areas. If I see little faint blue lines that is moving across the screen, I know it isn't the volcano. I start shooting.
Shhhh. LOL
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
936
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:33:00 -
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OP if the scout came at you from the front and you missed him, that's on you. If he came upon you from the flank or rear you were dead anyway regardless of whether or not he was cloaked.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:43:00 -
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Reminds me of a game I had last night; went to spawn hive and encounter a just spawned scout who ran. My big problem with the cloak as we played the cat and mouse game was taking damage when he was in front of me while cloaked when I passed through a pillar and then the de-cloak shot killed me. Not sure if it would've changed the outcome but sometimes avoiding that one shot because you could only tell where someone was can make a difference.
Still somewhat annoyed I had time to see his wondrous 400+ armor which I won't dwell into but is still utterly wrong. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:35:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Joel II X wrote:I can kill you WITHOUT the cloak.
You're just looking for ways to nerf a Gallente weapon. ^^did not read a lick past the title. ARE YOU PSYCHIC?! |
Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
386
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:38:00 -
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AngelflamesP wrote:ugg reset wrote:if you spent more time looking for this in stead of the red Doritos chips above our heads maybe you would fair better. granted in bright areas we come close to fully invisible but the opposite it true for dark areas. and if you ask me, you should be able to hold your weapons and equipment while under your cloak; only decloaking when they are shot/used. I know what you mean i spend more time looking for the shimmer and the dorritos i dont worry about cuz its almost impossible to scan the suit down ;p but i dont mind that, thats what the cloak does im not worried about how hard or easy the cloak is too see but by how the cloak and shotguns devistate the battlefield by moving fast..invisible...and kill in 1 hit lol
It takes 3-5 shots to kill a heavy, and we rarely get more than 3 before getting blown away by their HMGs. Also, the shotgun has pretty bad hit detection, so don't complain.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1546
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:46:00 -
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AngelflamesP wrote:So I'm always told that sending in a petition is not the place to talk about these things so I'm finally gonna make a post on it :P
I don't know how you guys feel about this but I honestly thing Cloaking with a Shotgun is absolutely ridiculous.... I'm so sick and tired of instant deaths because a guy ran up to me moving over 7ms a second fully cloaked and instantly kills me with a shot gun and is still cloaked as he does it or how he has able to get off 2 or 3 rounds before his cloak deactivates. If you ask me i would say it should be made where you have to manually deactivate your cloak in order to switch or pull out your weapons and or should you pull out a weapon while cloaked it would take time and show you pressing the lil thing on your arm to deactivate the cloak first and then pulling out the weapon right after, I thing this would help preventing the cloaky shotgun instant death and prevent me and many others who agree with me from raging because the cloaky can kill us before he uncloaks. Or I came up with the other idea that Light suits should just not have shotguns in general. What do you think?
Now as for the Combat Rifle.....oooh my.. don't even get me started haha XD RPM of 1400 0.o it shoots so fast. My friend today tried it out with the Adv Assault variant....killed suits like it was no tomorrow. I'm thinking that it's RPM should be lowered a bit and should have a decrease in accuracy by range. What do you guys think about this too?
Another "SG is OP Cloak is OP Scouts Are OP and I'm Blind and Moron at the same time" Thread ?!
Couldn't you post it on the other million thread and tried bumping those ?! Or do you want to farm some likes ?!
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:04:00 -
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Yesterday I killed a HEAVY that was using a shotgun, knowing full well that my 160 shield 156 armor could not take ONE single DIRECT hit or I would be dead. I didn't have time to go in and out of my cloak, my TEN POINT ZERO ONE RUN speed and shooting him in the back and running away is the only thing that let me live through it. He kept coming back, I killed him 4 times,
It's not the cloak, its not the shotgun, the hit detection is horrible on hit. Its the tactics. |
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