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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:04:00 -
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so lets break up your life time skill points into a set of tiers an example is as follows.
tier Life time SP
1 1,000,000
2 2,500,000
3 5,000,000
4 7,500,000
5 10,000,000
that is just an example
so the queue system would work like this.
every time you queue for a match alone the queue system will look for equal tier players to match you with based on your tier alone.
should you squad with another player and queue up, the system will then take an average tier level based on all members in squad and try and match you with the closest tier level squads/players in queue at that time.
new players would be able to queue alone and be placed against other new up and coming mercs just like them.
or they can squad with a friend that is farther along then them and risk their neck and assets going against players of a higher caliber because their friend caused their average tier level to go above the new players own tier.
note: at a particular tier this will not stop proto stompers who have learned to specialize in one role only instead of trying to cover two or three with a single toon.
thoughts?
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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:08:00 -
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to further add to this topic it will help devs and players in looking at gear suits and modules for proper balancing as they will be able to see it in action against like meta items.
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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:36:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:player base is really to small to have any system like this in place, never mind the reasons why matchmaking is not the intention of dust in the future, end goal of ccp is to have every thing running of a player generated contract system, npc contracts at the moment are simple necessity of the lack of people. im still of the belief it would be easier to have ques where only mlt gear can be used. or bring back a version of corp battles and let people set there own rules, but as i said there aint enough people to justify a match making system & once there is i personally hope the game will be beyond the need for one.
where i can understand your point i have to disagree. this game does need this system if they intend to build their player base beyond what it is. because no amount of reward will bring in a new player if he just looses it to a proto stomper on his first match out of the battle academy (that doesnt last more then 3 matches anyways). i know a hand full of people that i have invited to play with me and every one of them stopped playing the second day saying it wasnt fun to do nothing but die. and that they could drain their entire ammo reserve into them and they still stand only to be dropped by one pull of the trigger from a proto.
im sorry but i strongly believe this needs to be in place. not for me as i am beyond the 10 mil sp mark but for everyone who is invited to play by friend, family, or other...
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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 08:56:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:All the thoughts in this thread have been suggested in the past and the fact remains that with a small player base combined with a serious need for a player to meet other players in other corps (not NPC) and avoid running solo to truly make any progress in this game, implementing this idea would reduce the ability for players to do that. Many corps recruit based on players joining their squads and running pubs with them.
this idea does not keep players from using the squad finder in any way for playing pub matches. it helps the new solo player who wants to go out and learn the game at a much less learning curve then being tossed in against the proto squads. a tier two player will play with squads whos equivalent tier level is 2 or very near and other players who are tier level two. if that tier level two player joins a squad of much higher tiers then when that squad deploys the average tier level of that squad is what the queue will look for.
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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 09:00:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:It would be better to base it on meta level of gear allowed in the battle. But yes I agree on the rest.
the reason you do not base it on meta level of the gear alowd on the field is because if your skill points say you are a tier 5 and at that level you have a proto suit and advanced gun but you choose to down grade to cost then that is your choice/fault as the people you are being queued with will be right at your level and will have access to the same level of gear you do. never take away choice from a player. neer force them to one option or the other. allow them to choose to front a suit that stands skill wise with the rest on that field or play a lesser suit out of concern for cost.
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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:16:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:To be honest i would rather want a "only militia" game mode instead without any vehicles.
play CoD.
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Kelbec Illidarie
The Forlorn Hope.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:32:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:If anyone in this thread has ever played the game that started it all I believe they would understand that CCP doesn't make games that are fair, they make games that allow you to mess with other people, completely screw other people over and are designed to be played "not fair". Yes the Danger Game started the company off that way and their product line (Eve/Dust) has continued on the same lines of design that the original had. Knock the little guy down to get ahead aka "All's fair in love and PC".
Tiers of battles do not solve the problem you seem to think we have. If tiered battles were implemented you would still have max skill players for whatever tier joining the battles and "being unfair". I believe you have misinterpreted what the problem is, a lack of ability to decide what you want to do in game other than the 4 modes (sans PC, no one seems to be able to do that now, was someone "unfair"?). PVE, open world and other possible changes are out there that would be better fixes than a tier based system.
The reason I think this is that anyone with lv5 skills in any skill is better at what ever the module/suit/weapon is than someone with no skills or low skills. It doesn't matter if they are using Meta 1 gear, they are still more effective with that gear. Being able to do other things than just PVP would help fund the big PC battles or allow people to take a break from PVP if they are tired of getting tank spammed or proto beared, placing tiers on the battles just reduces the feeling like the battle is unfair, it doesn't actually give your team mates the ability to use advanced scouts to surprise an enemy or help you learn the value of intel the Eve way (having someone scout a system find a small fleet and jump them with a larger fleet or sneak around using a different route).
you do have a valid point with this reply but i do strongly feel there needs to be something for the new players be it a MUCH longer battle academy or something. the end game was never my focus for this post so i do see your point but my focus was more on the new players and lessening the learning curve to help them adapt and accept the game BEFORE they get completely and utterly destroyed on their 3ed or 4th match ever in the game.
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