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NAV HIV
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Posted - 2014.04.21 12:49:00 -
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Bormir1r wrote:This is ridiculous. People are whining way too much about the cloak. They say it's a "crutch" for "******-players" pre-1.8, which is absolute BS. And these are the people who just say the cloak is "trash" and provide NO proper and logical explanation as to why it's even "garbage" in the first place. They don't even say why they couldn't see them. Players like Judge Rhadamanthus have video proof as to what extent the cloak is visible, and he even states that the cloak isn't even broken, rather it's just harder to see scouts in certain lighting areas, which is completely fine because the scout is using the environment to hide itself. Another problem is that people are STILL used to just looking at their radars and expecting to see EVERYTHING, and now when cloaks help hide scouts from the radars, they complain they can't see scouts when they get shotgunned, which is true because they aren't even looking at what's even right in front of them on their screen since they're too busy looking at their ******* radar!
Another reason why people are against cloaks is because they're really angered at the "brick-tanked" scouts, who shove armor plates up their ass to act like Assaults. Why are you getting pissed off by the cloaks, channel your fury into armor plates, which provide way too much eHP for such a small movement penatly.
Seriously if you're looking at your radar instead of the main screen right in front of you, don't be surprised when a "blue-outlined" scout comes up running to you and pops with you a shotgun.
You can still have your minimap lit up properly if you have a proper squad set up... No more solo gung-ho bs... That is whats bothering everyone.... They can't just brick tank a suit, climb a spot and be a all L33t... Now they actually have to worry about getting flanked...
- Have a Cal scout in sqaud - have a non-brick tanked scout (With proper PE and RA) equipped - Have a properly fitted Logi with scanners - Use your mics....
All these are UP apparently ^ |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.21 12:52:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:He's right I mean why is it so difficult,unless there right behind you but in that case think of it like a damper.Hey I just thought of something who invented the whole cloaked scout shotgun thing,Genius.Scouts are balance and disagree with this and my fist will slip down,fist out,swinging to the 56 round.Also yes use your crosshairs,why is it so difficult for babies to adapt.Anyone with me on that babies having a hard time. so tell me what you do when you are aware there are cloaked scouts on the field. When approaching an objective or room...do you stop and survey the entire area with your crosshair? You would have to do it before leaving and entering any area.
Use a PE and a RA rather than using Armor plates and Shield stuff... It works decently even on an Assault suit... Have a logi with Scanner, have a cal scout in the squad... most Scouts are brick tanking with 1 or no dampeners. with a logi suit with decent PE and RA you can see them on the minimap, so can the rest of your squad... So it isn't exactly fun for the scout to stand there ... Scouts who have half a brain stay away from crowded areas.... |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.21 12:55:00 -
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Bormir1r wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:You arrive at an objective and there is a cloaked scout-shotty waiting in the corner. How do you propose to see him with your eyes?
Cloakheads aren't always running in front of you where you can see them shimmer. Most of the time, they are cloaked waiting or running up behind you. The only counter would be that EVERYWHERE you go, you must CAREFULLY survey the area for your crosshairs to turn red. Hopefully, your back doesn't turn from them or they don't just pop you with the shotgun before they decloak if you happen to walk right in front of them.
I understand cloaks are here to stay....but remove the dampening bonus, remove the decloaking animation when changing your weapon, and you should decloak or be at maximum shimmer when you take damage.
This week, I will make sure that I post some video and commentary of when cloak scouts are ridiculous. I don't see how removing the dampening bonus will help people see scouts. You'll just be encouraging more Gal scouts, or scouts with dampeners, and that just brings you back to square one because you still won't be able to see them on the radar. Furthermore if the dampening bonus is taken away, how are we supposed to counter caldari scouts? They are the precision hunters and will be able to catch almost everyone, IMO, cloaks with damp. bonus are part of the counter against Cal scouts. I really don't see how cloaks are ridiculous.
Exactly... .I use a cal scout, and most of the time i'm doing logi work for the squad with uplinks and scans... Yes i have 3-4 PE so that my squad doesn't get jumped by other scouts... It's costly and i have to run around with 240 EHP total... Now if people complain about that without even trying to get out of their Brick tanked Safe suits.. Then they should STFU about cloaks... People just want to have everything served in a platter, rather than trying to work with what's already there to counter cloaks and scouts... |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:01:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:My issue with cloaks is that a cloaked scout is hard to ******* see. Working as intended? I'm fine with the effect. But i'm not fine with the fact that it doesn't have any drawbacks at all and nothing being able to counter it. The way the cloak currently works doesn't call for any skill of the user, the deck is simply stacked in the cloak users favor.
Nothing there to counter it ?!
Logi Suit - 2 PE + 1 RA Assault - 1 PE + 1 RA Cal Scout = lol Cloaked scouts |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:01:00 -
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Bormir1r wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:My issue with cloaks is that a cloaked scout is hard to ******* see. Working as intended? I'm fine with the effect. But i'm not fine with the fact that it doesn't have any drawbacks at all and nothing being able to counter it. The way the cloak currently works doesn't call for any skill of the user, the deck is simply stacked in the cloak users favor. Nothing there to counter it ?! Logi Suit - 2 PE + 1 RA Assault - 1 PE + 1 RA Cal Scout = lol Cloaked scouts Also the CPU/PG usage is no joke, I could make my 11.12 m/s MInja have 300 shields but I have to drop it siginifcaly in order to incorporate a cloak. However I think because the Gal scout has the most PG, it can utilize the most mods and makes it the easiest/best scout to use in the game.
I think my dragonfly and my Valor Scout G-1 does better with Assault gear than my Amar Assault ak0 |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:01:00 -
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Bormir1r wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Funniest **** ever is when anything but a scout uses a cloak LMAO i killed this commando MKO using a bolt pistol only... The guy had his cloak on and i spotted him about 40m away took my pistol and started shooting, the cloak took so much fitting requirements he probably couldnt put anything else, killed him in a clip Yea they're called 'cloakmandos'. Usually only the proto ones are somewhat decent at it but it's a hard life for them to go invisible sometimes.
I made a Smart Commando rage quit lol... Cause he thought a cloak would make him better. |
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