no but you can bump ships out of alignment preventing them from warping, while your buddies blow him up

collision in eve has consequences as should collisions in dust.

I still haven't heard an actual reason from the OPQQer why it needs removal.

Dropships are roughly the same mass. Whether specced out with the best gear or not, they should be destructible by each other in collision, regardless of fitting. Meanwhile, with your frigate-to-battleship mechanic, I'd agree a dropship should not kill an MCC on collision.

Bear in mind, that a 1 mil ISK badly fit frigate CAN kill a 20 mil ISK frigate. The battleship/frigate example, to be blunt, was dumb. ;)

Air is big, dropship pilots should be mindful of things around them. If they can't adequately do that, I'd rather give them more tools to detect incoming threats, rather than take away suicide ships and jihad jeeps and the like. These are the sorts of tools that allow newbies to strike at veterans even without that massive pile of skill points.

HEY! I'm amarr. And I say being able to ram is okey dokey! So thanks for unconditionally agreeing with what I have to say.

Just remove collision damage and keep environmental damage so i can ram into people at full speed and make them crash. I don't need the kill, I just want to ram people.


But still keep it so that I can gingerly creep up on snipers and squash them.

Temias: I haven't seen a vehicle die to swarms since 1.6. Forge guns are functional now though. If you have Proficiency 4 in them or what have you anyways.

Cheap tactics, like it or not, belong in the game. I actually don't think dropships should dogfight, as we should have fighters for that. And that is coming at some point. Dropships should be flying bricks that are bad at aerial combat, but ramming is a good option for them if they need it.

It shouldn't require any more skill to kill a pilot than it requires to kill my dropsuit. Fact.

I haven't seen a dropship destroyed before the pilot can react to it since... well, it's been a while, I can't remember. I also haven't found a heavy that didn't die to my forge in one shot yet, unless I only hit them with splash.

I don't think it's fair dropships are naturally more robust than other players, so let's make a deal: We'll get rid of collison damage when I can one shot your dropship with my forge gun.

Your ADS can kill every player in the game. You can kill scouts, logis, heavies, assault suits, etc. with relative ease.

Meanwhile, most of those suits cannot kill you. At all.

The reality is that the game won't be balanced as long as it takes a tank less time to kill me than for me to kill it, even if I spec specifically into the role of killing tanks. There shouldn't be anywhere vehicles "easily murder" other players. That's the thing. Vehicles don't have anywhere near the challenges that infantry face.

The reason this topic has gotten to a more general sense is this: In a game where vehicles are already the most protected, difficult to destroy assets on the field, what in the world is someone doing asking for a nerf for the single vulnerability that vehicles actually have? Every dedicated vehicle user should take a month off and play infantry. Very few of them will survive the month. It's agonizingly painful being mowed down by vehicles in every other match and having almost nothing you can do about it.

I can't fly a dropship even well enough to jihad it into an ADS, but if I could, I would. Because I have almost no other options. With Proficiency 4 into forge guns, I only get a kill when the ADS is being really really dumb. Because they have way too much opportunity to get away. And it's ridiculous that I have to die several times a match to an ADS, and dropship pilots believe that only dying once every three to five matches is balanced.

Sure. But the tank runs faster than you do, and sometimes there's nowhere to hide. It's crazy that I can spawn somewhere, and instadie to something I can't even damage.

Finn your a new pilot right? MSG me in game. I will MSG you the next time I am on. We can squad up and go over a few training drills I do as an ADS pilot.