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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2480
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:58:00 -
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I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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OmniMerc
46
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:59:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? |
The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2480
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:03:00 -
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OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad?
It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1082
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:10:00 -
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I can see how that screws people (for example in EST that would be 08:00) over
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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OmniMerc
47
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:10:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic. Im on at that time *cough* hint *cough* |
plaplapla
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
19
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:10:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic.
not to be a ass but that also means most off them are at work so they will be weaker to |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6951
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:15:00 -
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Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200?
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
1193
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:15:00 -
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CCP has never, ever been good at curtailing mechanics that cause an advantage due to the programing of the game. Two obvious cases from EVE.
Blackholes in Wormhole Space gave you a huge negative to speed and range of your weapons. Some crafty players manage to put short range blasters with short range, high damage ammo and special gear that lowered their optimal range to a negative number. When that happened, their optimal range became infinite. If they could lock you, they could hit you for full damage. Imagine a prototype shotgun pointblank headshot every time at the range of a sniper rifle. CCP didn't know if it was an exploit or a "clever use of the game's mechanics." They eventually said exploit and said "do it now before we fix it and we will ban you."
EVE does time dilation so the servers don't have a heart attack when something huge happens like fleet battles. You can actually cause time dilation by ejecting cargo cans into space. All you have to do is eject 1 unit of something. Make it cheap to where it doesn't matter, like a single bullet and you have a floating can. You can fill an entire area with them so anyone coming out of warp is slower so you, as a human, can have a better chance of locking them before they get away. This IS both an exploit and a clever use of the game's mechanics. When I was in EVE Vegas, I was speaking with someone in a large Alliance when a GM came over and started talking about his Alliance and Corporation. GM: "Yeah, I remember I showed up a week ago because we got a complaint about cans at the gate." Player: "That was us." GM: "I looked around, didn't see anything too much and no other exploit. I went with 'well, that isn't too many cans but no more cans'."
CCP is terrible at saying "This is a game. We are going to be sure it works like a game."
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1082
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Military time
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6952
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:20:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Military time I know it's military time, but what happens at 1200?
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1082
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Military time I know it's military time, but what happens at 1200? Oh, according to OP DNS changed their timers to 1200 thus effectively screwing various time zones over, not that it matters because as you said, it's not like someone is going to attack DNS
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
1196
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:24:00 -
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It's 4-sh AM in the States so people are asleep for class or work in the morning. For CEST, it is 10 AM so people are either in class or work.
I believe that is the statement being made.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
1887
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:25:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Military time I know it's military time, but what happens at 1200? 1200 comes out to 8:00 AM EST time. Downtime is from 6 - 7 AM EST.
I can't quite remember but I recall something about launching attacks right after downtime being problematic.
Let me play you the song of my people!
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2480
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:27:00 -
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7 am eastern,6 am , 5 am and 4 am pacific.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1083
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:31:00 -
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http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=5,0,8,12&h=5 EST 08:00 PST 05:00 GMT 12:00 CET 14:00
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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OmniMerc
49
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:32:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=5,0,8,12&h=5 EST 08:00 PST 05:00 GMT 12:00 CET 14:00 Im up after dt.
As in before and after dt |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3523
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:33:00 -
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Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time.....
Sir Hadah for CPM
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
722
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200?
Lol at you acting like you've been with DNS from the start.
Youre just a bandwagon peasant. |
The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2485
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:45:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time.....
it is because of low numbers after DT and out of American prime time, that is the reason. There is no other reason except they are using DT and attack mechanics to make it so difficult to attack that no one can because Americans have to go to work or school and are asleep or leaving to go to work or school.
Any other reason is a lie.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6958
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:47:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote: Lol at you acting like you've been with DNS from the start.
You're just a bandwagon peasant.
I'm not saying I accomplished anything, nor am I saying that I helped in the conquest. I acknowledge that.
However, can you look at yourself in the mirror and say that my statement is false?
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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OmniMerc
50
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:47:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time..... it is because of low numbers after DT and out of American prime time, that is the reason. There is no other reason except they are using DT and attack mechanics to make it so difficult to attack that no one can because Americans have to go to work or school and are asleep or leaving to go to work or school. Any other reason is a lie. Attack district at 10:59 pm or 9:59 pm Profit |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3975
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:53:00 -
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Sounds like some euro corps need to step up
No.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
723
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Duran Lex wrote: Lol at you acting like you've been with DNS from the start.
You're just a bandwagon peasant.
I'm not saying I accomplished anything, nor am I saying that I helped in the conquest. I acknowledge that. However, can you look at yourself in the mirror and say that my statement is false?
Actually, yes I can. Since I consider you nothing more then a peasant lackey that has as much to do with DNS as I do with fraternity of St venifice, the "us" in your statement rings false.
Therefore I can dismiss the entirety of it as a drunken man's rambling. |
The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2487
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:09:00 -
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bad post
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6968
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:09:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote: Actually, yes I can. Since I consider you nothing more then a peasant lackey that has as much to do with DNS as I do with fraternity of St venifice, the "us" in your statement rings false.
Therefore I can dismiss the entirety of it as a drunken man's rambling.
Well within my two days of being here, I've played in 2 PC matches. While that's not much, it's far more involvement than what you've had in this, or ever will have.
So I'll ask again. Do you have any plans on attacking us?
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
724
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Duran Lex wrote: Actually, yes I can. Since I consider you nothing more then a peasant lackey that has as much to do with DNS as I do with fraternity of St venifice, the "us" in your statement rings false.
Therefore I can dismiss the entirety of it as a drunken man's rambling.
Well within my two days of being here, I've played in 2 PC matches. While that's not much, it's far more involvement than what you've had in this, or ever will have. So I'll ask again. Do you have any plans on attacking us?
Right. So because you've played two matches when PC is a joke, that means I've never done any PC matches when it used to be fun? Yep, you got me there sir!
But nah, i stopped participating in PC months ago. Though if I did attack, more then likely they will simply use their pet dogs to defend. It's pretty easy to pick up the runts of the litter that are scavenging for scraps.
They actually just got done recruiting some of those filthy mongrels a couple of days ago. Interesting coincidence. |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6976
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:50:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Right. So because you've played two matches when PC is a joke, that means I've never done any PC matches when it used to be fun? Yep, you got me there sir! But nah, i stopped participating in PC months ago. Though if I did attack, more then likely they will simply use their pet dogs to defend. It's pretty easy to pick up the runts of the litter that are scavenging for scraps. They actually just got done recruiting some of those filthy mongrels a couple of days ago. Interesting coincidence. I've done more than those 2 PCs as well (before EoN.), but I'm referring to the PCs involving the DNS vs MH war, which I've had more involvement in than you ever will.
Shows what you know. Everyone is sent to attack and/or defend districts at certain times, and each attack order is rotated among corps (basically taking turns), unless the leadership of that corp requests otherwise (usually due to personal vendettas). So by that logic, every person in DNS is a pet dog right?
Well other than HvLP (which has only existed for a month), there hasn't been a significant member growth in DNS. You need better sources.
Can you just answer my question? It's just a simple yes or no.
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
876
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:51:00 -
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DNS is gonna break this game... Damn ... ******* ******** ppl
DUST BRASIL DIRECTOR
PvE and P2PM plx
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6976
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:52:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:DNS is gonna break this game... Damn ... ******* ******** ppl There's nothing stopping you from taking their land and stopping them from "winning the game".
All you need is 16 good players.
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
876
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:DNS is gonna break this game... Damn ... ******* ******** ppl There's nothing stopping you from taking their land and stopping them from "winning the game". All you need is 16 good players. Joined the dark side Atiim ?
Lol... no need to move a finger... I will watch CCP **** you guys up when their money start going to other games....
DUST BRASIL DIRECTOR
PvE and P2PM plx
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2130
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:57:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time..... This.. Not everyone lives in America
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OmniMerc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:59:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:DNS is gonna break this game... Damn ... ******* ******** ppl There's nothing stopping you from taking their land and stopping them from "winning the game". All you need is 16 good players. A few hundred districts, here we go. |
yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
170
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:01:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time..... This.. Not everyone lives in America I live in Amarrica!!! which is about a four hour flight from America.
Official DNS alt The official panty monk of FA.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
725
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Right. So because you've played two matches when PC is a joke, that means I've never done any PC matches when it used to be fun? Yep, you got me there sir! But nah, i stopped participating in PC months ago. Though if I did attack, more then likely they will simply use their pet dogs to defend. It's pretty easy to pick up the runts of the litter that are scavenging for scraps. They actually just got done recruiting some of those filthy mongrels a couple of days ago. Interesting coincidence. I've done more than those 2 PCs as well (before EoN.), but I'm referring to the PCs involving the DNS vs MH war, which I've had more involvement in than you ever will. Shows what you know. Everyone is sent to attack and/or defend districts at certain times, and each attack order is rotated among corps (basically taking turns), unless the leadership of that corp requests otherwise (usually due to personal vendettas). So by that logic, every person in DNS is a pet dog right? Well other than HvLP (which has only existed for a month), there hasn't been a significant member growth in DNS. You need better sources. Can you just answer my question? It's just a simple yes or no.
No, just the ones who hop on the bandwagon then pound their chest as if by joining you somehow absorbed your betters accomplishments. Those are the pet dogs. You are simply the omega male.
I already answered your question. If you were unable to read it, well, maybe you are just a useless mutt. |
Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2130
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:02:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Atiim wrote:Duran Lex wrote: Actually, yes I can. Since I consider you nothing more then a peasant lackey that has as much to do with DNS as I do with fraternity of St venifice, the "us" in your statement rings false.
Therefore I can dismiss the entirety of it as a drunken man's rambling.
Well within my two days of being here, I've played in 2 PC matches. While that's not much, it's far more involvement than what you've had in this, or ever will have. So I'll ask again. Do you have any plans on attacking us? Right. So because you've played two matches when PC is a joke, that means I've never done any PC matches when it used to be fun? Yep, you got me there sir! But nah, i stopped participating in PC months ago. Though if I did attack, more then likely they will simply use their pet dogs to defend. It's pretty easy to pick up the runts of the litter that are scavenging for scraps. They actually just got done recruiting some of those filthy mongrels a couple of days ago. Interesting coincidence. If you are referring to us then... We have more than enough talent.. You're not even good enough to hold my jockstrap
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9599
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right......
The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago.....
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2130
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:03:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time..... This.. Not everyone lives in America I live in Amarrica!!! which is about a four hour flight from America. Rumor is women don't have panties there? I'm assuming this is your doing?
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6978
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong?
What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors?
I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"?
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
877
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:10:00 -
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CCP Mechanics doesn't even allow a guerrilla warfare scheme ... Enjoy while it last DNS...
DUST BRASIL DIRECTOR
PvE and P2PM plx
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
170
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time..... This.. Not everyone lives in America I live in Amarrica!!! which is about a four hour flight from America. Rumor is women don't have panties there? I'm assuming this is your doing? Why yes it is.
Official DNS alt The official panty monk of FA.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9600
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong? What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors? I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"?
No.... I do not mean that you should be grammatically incorrect....however the term simply carries less weight from someone who recently joined the alliance.....who now appears (because we all know PC power players have trouble with public relations) as though he is gloating about something he didn't even help to achieve.....
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4935
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
^ The cold hard truth.
DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope.
It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!"
Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join.
Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left
Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Rusty Shallows
1583
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:19:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:CCP Mechanics doesn't even allow a guerrilla warfare scheme ... Enjoy while it last DNS...
I thought we wanted PC to fail so CCP could either delete all the districts or suffer unrelenting criticisms while we laugh at the p!ss-poor game design? In an unintended way DNS Black is doing us a favor with his Planetary Carebears alliance.
Aside I don't hold corp tags against people in the forums. Actions and public statements are what's important.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6982
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: No.... I do not mean that you should be grammatically incorrect....however the term simply carries less weight from someone who recently joined the alliance.....who now appears (because we all know PC power players have trouble with public relations) as though he is gloating about something he didn't even help to achieve.....
I wasn't trying to gloat or wag my e-peen about anything.
I was simply stating the honest truth. You know it, I know it, my "partners" know it, the OP knows it, the guy 2 quotes above me knows, Duran knows it, even CCP knows it.
I'm sorry if it seemed incendiary or egotistical, but somebody had to say it. I probably wasn't the right person to say it, but it still needed to be said nonetheless.
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Patrick57
7098
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:22:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Sounds like some euro corps need to step up What The French are giving really good battles. Damn HUNK tm on the rings with his Forge Gun. :'(
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6982
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:23:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Sounds like some euro corps need to step up What The French are giving really good battles. Damn HUNK tm on the rings with his Forge Gun. :'( Don't forget about 0uter.Heaven
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
170
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:25:00 -
[47] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
^ The cold hard truth. DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope. It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!" Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join. Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS. I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....
Official DNS alt The official panty monk of FA.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6983
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:30:00 -
[48] - Quote
yep derrith again wrote:Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well..... Everyone wanted to do the same.
Even if you didn't initially, if your corp was active enough in PC you would have eventually done so anyways.
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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Patrick57
7098
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Sounds like some euro corps need to step up What The French are giving really good battles. Damn HUNK tm on the rings with his Forge Gun. :'( Don't forget about 0uter.Heaven I haven't played a full team of them, but usuckatdust's team was very good. They gave a great fight, and there was a squad of 0uter.Heaven on their team.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9601
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: No.... I do not mean that you should be grammatically incorrect....however the term simply carries less weight from someone who recently joined the alliance.....who now appears (because we all know PC power players have trouble with public relations) as though he is gloating about something he didn't even help to achieve.....
I wasn't trying to gloat or wag my e-peen about anything. I was simply stating the honest truth. You know it, I know it, my "partners" know it, the OP knows it, the guy 2 quotes above me knows, Duran knows it, even CCP knows it. I'm sorry if it seemed incendiary or egotistical, but somebody had to say it. I probably wasn't the right person to say it, but it still needed to be said nonetheless.
Yeah everyone knows it.
But in the end..... how much of an achievement is that?
Just took half a dozen on Molden Heaths PC corps bluing up, and a landslide began to get on the back of the waggon.
What we have now? One region for 4000 players? Its not big enough..... what One region of space represents...... too much ISK.
I would kill for a minimalistic system of PC....where taking systems and regions required attrition of sovereignty before the final climactic battles, each district/ planet taking a week or two to produce its goods for sale, whilch translates to ISK rather than clone pay outs.....
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456 Proficiency V.
190
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:36:00 -
[51] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
^ The cold hard truth. DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope. It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!" Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join. Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS.
I agree with you for the most part but saying "No one" will attack isn't right as I hear WTF and a few others fighting sooner or later more will step up. An empire will never last forever treason, rebellion, or the empire giving up will be their downfall.. I believe treason (which will lead to rebellion) or just rebellion will be the likely fall of DNS.
Story of the Merc
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Patrick57
7099
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
Kira Takizawa wrote:I agree with you for the most part but saying "No one" will attack isn't right as I hear WTF and a few others fighting sooner or later more will step up. An empire will never last forever treason, rebellion, or the empire giving up will be their downfall.. I believe treason (which will lead to rebellion) or just rebellion will be the likely fall of DNS. It'll be all these huge ass egos in one place that makes DNS fall apart.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456 Proficiency V.
190
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:I agree with you for the most part but saying "No one" will attack isn't right as I hear WTF and a few others fighting sooner or later more will step up. An empire will never last forever treason, rebellion, or the empire giving up will be their downfall.. I believe treason (which will lead to rebellion) or just rebellion will be the likely fall of DNS. It'll be all these huge ass egos in one place that makes DNS fall apart.
Call that treason right? Cause that would lead to internal conflict.
Story of the Merc
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4936
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:56:00 -
[54] - Quote
yep derrith again wrote: I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....
I like honesty, and honest people. I appreciate the fact that you know what you don't want, and speak up about it.
EoN was a different matter. I was in EoN from the very beginning, and from the start it was never land grabbing to farm. That was never out intention, and EoN was every small when we first started. 5-6 corps if i remember correctly. Our plan was to have a space of our own. I wasn't a director or CEO, but I was in a position to know what was our deal.
But things got out of hand. At the start of PC, Orion, and CRONOS teamed up. CRONOS land grabbed as much as they possibly could, and made it very clear that farming was their objective. EoN grabbed a handful of districts...literally. Some of our corps didn't even have a district first couple days.
Even with our little amount of districts CRONOS attacked, and wanted our land. So that's when the first big war started. Our objective became to wipe Orion and CRONOS off the map. With the combined efforts of EoN and NF, Orion was gone within a week or so. Leaving CRONOS.
Now all this time, other corps had their own beef going on. HS, PHI, KEQ, STB, and a few others, so they let our war be. Nobody joined the bandwagon at that point, and the map was open for business. Which Ill Omens, or rather Nikia, saw an invitation to bite off more than he can chew. Despite other CEO's objecting to him attacking and taking more land than we needed, he still proceeded. By the time he got the boot from his own corp, and the alliance, EoN had way too much land IMO.
By that time we adopted a few smaller corps, and an alliance was formed against EoN. Little did people realize, or cared, that EoN was busy selling off land because it was too much for people to protect, and activity was low. BUT, and this is the important part, it got an alliance to form against us, which brought back people to the game. It brought me back, as at that point I gave up on DUST.
That war lasted about 2 weeks, and I'm missing out the 1 week war against HS before this. Then AE continued to attack, even though people didn't give a shite about DUST again lol.
The CEO in charge of EoN had already set a date to leave DUST, hence all the land being sold / given away. So in the end, the community got land, and they got sort of fresh start to MH. Problem was, the big blue donut was an inevitability, and DNS control of MH is the result of no competition. No competitiveness left in the DUST community.
Please note that I might have missed a couple details, and facts, but tbh, who cares. EoN was a donut but there still remained competition. DNS is a bigger donut with no competition.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2492
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
^ The cold hard truth. DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope. It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!" Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join. Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS.
In really do hate when you're right. I am optimistic but I do think you're correct. Sucks hard to have to say that.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456 Proficiency V.
190
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:18:00 -
[56] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:yep derrith again wrote: I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....
I like honesty, and honest people. I appreciate the fact that you know what you don't want, and speak up about it. EoN was a different matter. I was in EoN from the very beginning, and from the start it was never land grabbing to farm. That was never our intention, and EoN was every small when we first started. 5-6 corps if i remember correctly. Our plan was to have a space of our own. I wasn't a director or CEO, but I was in a position to know what was our deal. But things got out of hand. At the start of PC, Orion, and CRONOS teamed up. CRONOS land grabbed as much as they possibly could, and made it very clear that farming was their objective. EoN grabbed a handful of districts...literally. Some of our corps didn't even have a district first couple days. Even with our little amount of districts CRONOS attacked, and wanted our land. So that's when the first big war started. Our objective became to wipe Orion and CRONOS off the map. With the combined efforts of EoN and NF, Orion was gone within a week or so. Leaving CRONOS. Now all this time, other corps had their own beef going on. HS, PHI, KEQ, STB, and a few others, so they let our war be. Nobody joined the bandwagon at that point, and the map was open for business. Which Ill Omens, or rather Nikia, saw an invitation to bite off more than he can chew. Despite other CEO's objecting to him attacking and taking more land than we needed, he still proceeded. By the time he got the boot from his own corp, and the alliance, EoN had way too much land IMO. By that time we adopted a few smaller corps, and an alliance was formed against EoN. Little did people realize, or cared, that EoN was busy selling off land because it was too much for people to protect, and activity was low. BUT, and this is the important part, it got an alliance to form against us, which brought back people to the game. It brought me back, as at that point I gave up on DUST. That war lasted about 2 weeks, and I'm missing out the 1 week war against HS before this. Then AE continued to attack, even though people didn't give a shite about DUST again lol. The CEO in charge of EoN had already set a date to leave DUST, hence all the land being sold / given away. So in the end, the community got land, and they got sort of fresh start to MH. Problem was, the big blue donut was an inevitability, and DNS control of MH is the result of no competition. No competitiveness left in the DUST community. Please note that I might have missed a couple details, and facts, but tbh, who cares. EoN was a donut but there still remained competition. DNS is a bigger donut with no competition. Edit: I'm not complaining, or anything about what DNS did. I'm pointing out that the community has no one to blame but themselves. Either join the farming simulator, or make an alliance against them. In other words, put up, or shut up.
That is true and I want all of us to put up. Shutting up is for the weak!
Story of the Merc
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2492
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:19:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:yep derrith again wrote: I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....
I like honesty, and honest people. I appreciate the fact that you know what you don't want, and speak up about it. EoN was a different matter. I was in EoN from the very beginning, and from the start it was never land grabbing to farm. That was never our intention, and EoN was every small when we first started. 5-6 corps if i remember correctly. Our plan was to have a space of our own. I wasn't a director or CEO, but I was in a position to know what was our deal. But things got out of hand. At the start of PC, Orion, and CRONOS teamed up. CRONOS land grabbed as much as they possibly could, and made it very clear that farming was their objective. EoN grabbed a handful of districts...literally. Some of our corps didn't even have a district first couple days. Even with our little amount of districts CRONOS attacked, and wanted our land. So that's when the first big war started. Our objective became to wipe Orion and CRONOS off the map. With the combined efforts of EoN and NF, Orion was gone within a week or so. Leaving CRONOS. Now all this time, other corps had their own beef going on. HS, PHI, KEQ, STB, and a few others, so they let our war be. Nobody joined the bandwagon at that point, and the map was open for business. Which Ill Omens, or rather Nikia, saw an invitation to bite off more than he can chew. Despite other CEO's objecting to him attacking and taking more land than we needed, he still proceeded. By the time he got the boot from his own corp, and the alliance, EoN had way too much land IMO. By that time we adopted a few smaller corps, and an alliance was formed against EoN. Little did people realize, or cared, that EoN was busy selling off land because it was too much for people to protect, and activity was low. BUT, and this is the important part, it got an alliance to form against us, which brought back people to the game. It brought me back, as at that point I gave up on DUST. That war lasted about 2 weeks, and I'm missing out the 1 week war against HS before this. Then AE continued to attack, even though people didn't give a shite about DUST again lol. The CEO in charge of EoN had already set a date to leave DUST, hence all the land being sold / given away. So in the end, the community got land, and they got sort of fresh start to MH. Problem was, the big blue donut was an inevitability, and DNS control of MH is the result of no competition. No competitiveness left in the DUST community. Please note that I might have missed a couple details, and facts, but tbh, who cares. EoN was a donut but there still remained competition. DNS is a bigger donut with no competition. Edit: I'm not complaining, or anything about what DNS did. I'm pointing out that the community has no one to blame but themselves. Either join the farming simulator, or make an alliance against them. In other words, put up, or shut up.
Damnit I have to totally agree with you twice in a row. What is New Eden coming to? usually I only agree half the time but you are making some very God points and you are 100% percent correct. Put up or shut up.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1401
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:20:00 -
[58] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:DNS is gonna break this game... Damn ... ******* ******** ppl There's nothing stopping you from taking their land and stopping them from "winning the game". All you need is 16 good players.
I don't much care about the argument at hand, but c'mon Atiim your statement here is just LOL worthy.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1401
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:29:00 -
[59] - Quote
yep derrith again wrote: I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....
**** yeah, if CCP offered me free passive ISK I'd take it, just like I take the free 6K SP daily so CCP can fudge its daily log in numbers or whatever metric it uses to lie to themselves and think everything is going great here.
I'm frankly surprised it took this long to happen. I'm a realist "take it back" is basically the same sort of douchebag response as HTFU. The best thing people can probably do to show their displeasure is simply quit playing the game. Or don't care and pub away. Want to avoid DNS, quit any match where you see them and let them pub stomp against each other and the masses who don't visit the forums.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2365
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:41:00 -
[60] - Quote
Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong? What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors? I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"? In factional terms we would be slave masters to you.
Minmatar scum have no place in the works of DNS.
The problem with tanks
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6984
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:50:00 -
[61] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote: In factional terms we would be slave masters to you.
Minmatar scum have no place in the works of DNS.
From a RP standpoint, I'm just a Caldari businessman who defends his long time business partners (the Matari). But even if I was of Matari blood, I wouldn't be anyone's master as I am a free man independent of the Amarrian Religion Folk Stories.
Though if you want to look at things from a factional standpoint, nearly all of DNS would be removed from Molden Heath, as it belongs to the Minmatar Republic.
They're just being kind.
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3524
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:53:00 -
[62] - Quote
I'm not on DNS's side but there are so many things wrong with this thread.
Sir Hadah for CPM
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2273
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:58:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I think one thing that people over look when I say eliminate auto sale is that means if a district is under attack or locked no wealth can be generated from it because you can't sell off the clones. That still doesn't solve anything. There will still be "some" corporations that nobody would attack because of their reinforcement window that would still make huge profits. I'm still wondering why don't you at DNS set all your reinforcement windows at 12.00 ET. It's a good thought imo, but the real problem doesn't lie there
I'll just leave this here...
-#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2365
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:40:00 -
[64] - Quote
Atiim wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote: In factional terms we would be slave masters to you.
Minmatar scum have no place in the works of DNS.
From a RP standpoint, I'm just a Caldari businessman who defends his long time business partners (the Matari). But even if I was of Matari blood, I wouldn't be anyone's master as I am a free man independent of the Amarrian Religion Folk Stories. Though if you want to look at things from a factional standpoint, nearly all of DNS would be removed from Molden Heath, as it belongs to the Minmatar Republic. They're just being kind. Actually the amarians are just there to take a dump on the scum that inhabit these parts.
The last time I checked Amarr is dominating in space even with a disadvantage of being at a 30-70 split on the ground.
The problem with tanks
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
2041
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:48:00 -
[65] - Quote
Attack them I sure as hell won't wake up for the defense, maybe on a weekend but not a weekday.
ISK Donuts are delicious
Q_Q Moar
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
733
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Posted - 2014.04.20 07:36:00 -
[66] - Quote
Atiim wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote: In factional terms we would be slave masters to you.
Minmatar scum have no place in the works of DNS.
From a RP standpoint, I'm just a Caldari businessman who defends his long time business partners (the Matari). But even if I was of Matari blood, I wouldn't be anyone's master as I am a free man independent of the Amarrian Religion Folk Stories. Though if you want to look at things from a factional standpoint, nearly all of DNS would be removed from Molden Heath, as it belongs to the Minmatar Republic. They're just being kind.
The amarr still have 1/3rd of all minmatar enslaved.
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Stiddlefaxq
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2014.04.20 07:42:00 -
[67] - Quote
The Robot Devil wrote:OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic.
Actually, it would be cheating if we had all of our timers at 0900. It is technically possible for the match the final match to be canceled at that hour.
12:00 is legit. Set your alarm clocks and we will do the same. Best watch out for the Chinese fleet though... They don't like to lose. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2368
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Posted - 2014.04.20 07:55:00 -
[68] - Quote
This is a sign that DNS is falling apart.
It was fun while it lasted mates. o7
HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
8602
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Posted - 2014.04.20 07:57:00 -
[69] - Quote
<---
This cat right here plays at such times. I see no problem with this
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1651
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:00:00 -
[70] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200?
look at thus folks haven't Atiim grown now he's in a big boy alliance isn't it cute everyone how his balls have grown .
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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OmniMerc
Commando Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:01:00 -
[71] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:<--- This cat right here plays at such times. I see no problem with this Me neither Now I just need to ring |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
878
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:06:00 -
[72] - Quote
The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. Why do they get to set the timer anyway? Wouldn't it make the most sense to let the attacker control when the attack is going to be?! O.o
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
878
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:13:00 -
[73] - Quote
This thread is nothing but a bunch of DNS circlejerk going around. It's obvious what's going on here with the timers. No amount of circlejerk is going to change that.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7017
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:15:00 -
[74] - Quote
pegasis prime wrote: look at thus folks haven't Atiim grown now he's in a big boy alliance isn't it cute everyone how his balls have grown .
You and I both know it's the truth.
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7017
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:19:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Why do they get to set the timer anyway? Wouldn't it make the most sense to let the attacker control when the attack is going to be?! O.o
No, because all the attacker would have to do is schedule an attack when they know nobody's going to be on.
Vespasian Andendare wrote:This thread is nothing but a bunch of DNS circlejerk going around. It's obvious what's going on here with the timers. No amount of circlejerk is going to change that. Or perhaps not everyone lives in the US and 1200 is when many of our players are on?
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1987
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:39:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic. I understand where you're coming from, but i applaud DNS for doing what they're doing, because we're dealing with CCP.
The only way to convince CCP of anything is to present brutally overwhelming evidence of awful player experience that spans many months or even years.
So kudos, DNS, you have my respect and gratitude for what you're trying to accomplish. By my estimates you'll only have to keep it up until fanfest, unless the same error is copied into the new system, in which case you have to keep it up for another 6 to 9 months.
Good luck - hope to see you peeps in PC someday, once you finally get this fixed for CCP.
I support SP rollover.
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:08:00 -
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If I were going to set up attack timers I would make these changes.
No attack timers two hours before or after downtime. Attack window of two hours 200 count clone pack Double the time to produce clones No passive ISK
No attacks two hours before or after DT. This is so low numbers and TZ can't be used against attackers because right now the early attack time only allows for 30 minutes before the scheduled attacks and the player count is low because to of American TZ.
An attack window of two hours, this means that an attacker can attack up to one hour before and up to on hour after. This gives the attacker a little bit of surprise factor.
200 clones so because the clone count now seems too small to fight a clone count of up to 400.
Double the clone production time. Have clones produced at 40 a day so that defenders have to buy clone packs to keep defending more often. If the production is 300 + 100 and the teams are equally matched then the defenders would have to buy 4 clone packs to equal the amount of clones the attacker has. That is about 150 M just to be able to be on equal ground.
Clones can only be sold when the unit is full and and stops producing when the unit is full. If the clone unit has the max number of clones the it stops making clones until some are lost to battle or the entire unit is sold and resets it to zero.
The combination of timers and passive ISK is a big problem when you add in the low count attack clone packs and high price. All of these things give the defenders too much advantage. The system needs to be tweaked. The reward for owning a district would be for corp use and it would open up the old corp battle system the owner. They could run their own tournament or charge people for practice areas (and even scam them by showing up and rolling them off the field) or just go down and train their new players or practice.
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:11:00 -
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plaplapla wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic. not to be a ass but that also means most off them are at work so they will be weaker to
Yes it does and there again is the problem, there isn't anyone one to fight. If there is not many players on the is a pseudo-locking technique used only to make owning that district easier.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Jenza's Pants
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:12:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:If I were going to set up attack timers I would make these changes.
No attack timers two hours before or after downtime. Attack window of two hours 200 count clone pack Double the time to produce clones No passive ISK
No attacks two hours before or after DT. This is so low numbers and TZ can't be used against attackers because right now the early attack time only allows for 30 minutes before the scheduled attacks and the player count is low because to of American TZ.
An attack window of two hours, this means that an attacker can attack up to one hour before and up to on hour after. This gives the attacker a little bit of surprise factor.
200 clones so because the clone count now seems too small to fight a clone count of up to 400.
Double the clone production time. Have clones produced at 40 a day so that defenders have to buy clone packs to keep defending more often. If the production is 300 + 100 and the teams are equally matched then the defenders would have to buy 4 clone packs to equal the amount of clones the attacker has. That is about 150 M just to be able to be on equal ground.
Clones can only be sold when the unit is full and and stops producing when the unit is full. If the clone unit has the max number of clones the it stops making clones until some are lost to battle or the entire unit is sold and resets it to zero.
The combination of timers and passive ISK is a big problem when you add in the low count attack clone packs and high price. All of these things give the defenders too much advantage. The system needs to be tweaked. The reward for owning a district would be for corp use and it would open up the old corp battle system the owner. They could run their own tournament or charge people for practice areas (and even scam them by showing up and rolling them off the field) or just go down and train their new players or practice.
stop QQ, buff alarm clock.
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Jenza's Pants
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:14:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:plaplapla wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:OmniMerc wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I like how you are moving all your timers to 1200. Really showing us who is the best aren't you. I am glad you can abuse a **** mechanic to show how you are the best players in DUST. How is that bad? It is a cheat, that is the problem. The idea is great but it is being used to make it that much more difficult to attack, that is the only reason. They can't defend it and can't lock it so they they put the timer when players aren't on and the majority of the players are going to work. it is cowardly and abusing a broken mechanic. not to be a ass but that also means most off them are at work so they will be weaker to Yes it does and there again is the problem, there isn't anyone one to fight. If there is not many players on the is a pseudo-locking technique used only to make owning that district easier.
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:50:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote: stop QQ, buff alarm clock.
Not going to work isn't buffing the alarm clock
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Youknowutimsayin
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:53:00 -
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im all out of popcorn |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong? What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors? I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"?
No, but can we call you a jock sniffer?
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noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:25:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong? What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors? I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"? No, but can we call you a jock sniffer?
OI! only we may bully atiim. Play nice mkay. but seriously we have a **** ton of guys on at 12 ( me included) I think we actually cover our districts around the clock
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:31:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong? What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors? I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"? No, but can we call you a jock sniffer? OI! only we may bully atiim. Play nice mkay. but seriously we have a **** ton of guys on at 12 ( me included) I think we actually cover our districts around the clock I play at any time mkay, inv me to your late pc's mkay.
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
5153
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:32:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.
Also, what's at 1200? Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right...... The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago..... So being grammatically correct is wrong? What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors? I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"? No, but can we call you a jock sniffer? OI! only we may bully atiim. Play nice mkay. but seriously we have a **** ton of guys on at 12 ( me included) I think we actually cover our districts around the clock
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