Most there timers have been at 12 for a long time now that is Niyan San timers because that is there prime time.....

There's nothing stopping you from taking their land and stopping them from "winning the game".

All you need is 16 good players.

This.. Not everyone lives in America

I've done more than those 2 PCs as well (before EoN.), but I'm referring to the PCs involving the DNS vs MH war, which I've had more involvement in than you ever will.

Shows what you know. Everyone is sent to attack and/or defend districts at certain times, and each attack order is rotated among corps (basically taking turns), unless the leadership of that corp requests otherwise (usually due to personal vendettas). So by that logic, every person in DNS is a pet dog right?

Well other than HvLP (which has only existed for a month), there hasn't been a significant member growth in DNS. You need better sources.

Can you just answer my question? It's just a simple yes or no.

Right. So because you've played two matches when PC is a joke, that means I've never done any PC matches when it used to be fun? Yep, you got me there sir!

But nah, i stopped participating in PC months ago. Though if I did attack, more then likely they will simply use their pet dogs to defend. It's pretty easy to pick up the runts of the litter that are scavenging for scraps.

They actually just got done recruiting some of those filthy mongrels a couple of days ago. Interesting coincidence.

Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.

Also, what's at 1200?

I live in Amarrica!!! which is about a four hour flight from America.

Dude you saying "us" after 2-3 days....not right......

The people who made DNS a power house, and group that could actually get away with saying "It's not like you are going to attack us anyway" joined months ago.....

Rumor is women don't have panties there? I'm assuming this is your doing?

So being grammatically correct is wrong?

What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors?

I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"?

Let's be honest here, it's not like you were actually going to attack us anyways.

CCP Mechanics doesn't even allow a guerrilla warfare scheme ...
Enjoy while it last DNS...

No.... I do not mean that you should be grammatically incorrect....however the term simply carries less weight from someone who recently joined the alliance.....who now appears (because we all know PC power players have trouble with public relations) as though he is gloating about something he didn't even help to achieve.....

Sounds like some euro corps need to step up

What The French are giving really good battles. Damn HUNK tm on the rings with his Forge Gun. :'(

^ The cold hard truth.

DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope.

It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!"

Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join.

Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left

Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS.

Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....

Don't forget about 0uter.Heaven

I wasn't trying to gloat or wag my e-peen about anything.

I was simply stating the honest truth. You know it, I know it, my "partners" know it, the OP knows it, the guy 2 quotes above me knows, Duran knows it, even CCP knows it.

I'm sorry if it seemed incendiary or egotistical, but somebody had to say it. I probably wasn't the right person to say it, but it still needed to be said nonetheless.

^ The cold hard truth.

DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope.

It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!"

Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join.

Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left

Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS.

I agree with you for the most part but saying "No one" will attack isn't right as I hear WTF and a few others fighting sooner or later more will step up. An empire will never last forever treason, rebellion, or the empire giving up will be their downfall.. I believe treason (which will lead to rebellion) or just rebellion will be the likely fall of DNS.

It'll be all these huge ass egos in one place that makes DNS fall apart.

I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....

^ The cold hard truth.

DUST is no longer a competitive game as it was a while back. I say "competitive" but I use the term loosely. I'll put it this way, DUST right now, from what I gather, is no longer about corps battling each other for the fun of it. There's no "oh you talked smack about us? Let's fight". Nope.

It's about "LOLOLOL, WE GOT ALLZ THE ISKZ NOW BECUZ WE FARMZ ALL DAY SON!"

Nobody will attack DNS because everybody that wanted a piece of the pie, joined already or planning to join.

Sorry Robot, there's no forming an alliance to fight them because there's no one left

Just enjoy pubbing or whatever people do for fun on DUST, because PC is in all honesty, Farmville. If you enjoy farming free ISK, then PC is right up your alley. Join DNS.

I like honesty, and honest people. I appreciate the fact that you know what you don't want, and speak up about it.

EoN was a different matter. I was in EoN from the very beginning, and from the start it was never land grabbing to farm. That was never our intention, and EoN was every small when we first started. 5-6 corps if i remember correctly. Our plan was to have a space of our own. I wasn't a director or CEO, but I was in a position to know what was our deal.

But things got out of hand. At the start of PC, Orion, and CRONOS teamed up. CRONOS land grabbed as much as they possibly could, and made it very clear that farming was their objective. EoN grabbed a handful of districts...literally. Some of our corps didn't even have a district first couple days.

Even with our little amount of districts CRONOS attacked, and wanted our land. So that's when the first big war started. Our objective became to wipe Orion and CRONOS off the map. With the combined efforts of EoN and NF, Orion was gone within a week or so. Leaving CRONOS.

Now all this time, other corps had their own beef going on. HS, PHI, KEQ, STB, and a few others, so they let our war be. Nobody joined the bandwagon at that point, and the map was open for business. Which Ill Omens, or rather Nikia, saw an invitation to bite off more than he can chew. Despite other CEO's objecting to him attacking and taking more land than we needed, he still proceeded. By the time he got the boot from his own corp, and the alliance, EoN had way too much land IMO.

By that time we adopted a few smaller corps, and an alliance was formed against EoN. Little did people realize, or cared, that EoN was busy selling off land because it was too much for people to protect, and activity was low. BUT, and this is the important part, it got an alliance to form against us, which brought back people to the game. It brought me back, as at that point I gave up on DUST.

That war lasted about 2 weeks, and I'm missing out the 1 week war against HS before this. Then AE continued to attack, even though people didn't give a shite about DUST again lol.

The CEO in charge of EoN had already set a date to leave DUST, hence all the land being sold / given away. So in the end, the community got land, and they got sort of fresh start to MH. Problem was, the big blue donut was an inevitability, and DNS control of MH is the result of no competition. No competitiveness left in the DUST community.

Please note that I might have missed a couple details, and facts, but tbh, who cares. EoN was a donut but there still remained competition. DNS is a bigger donut with no competition.

Edit: I'm not complaining, or anything about what DNS did. I'm pointing out that the community has no one to blame but themselves. Either join the farming simulator, or make an alliance against them. In other words, put up, or shut up.

I like honesty, and honest people. I appreciate the fact that you know what you don't want, and speak up about it.

EoN was a different matter. I was in EoN from the very beginning, and from the start it was never land grabbing to farm. That was never our intention, and EoN was every small when we first started. 5-6 corps if i remember correctly. Our plan was to have a space of our own. I wasn't a director or CEO, but I was in a position to know what was our deal.

But things got out of hand. At the start of PC, Orion, and CRONOS teamed up. CRONOS land grabbed as much as they possibly could, and made it very clear that farming was their objective. EoN grabbed a handful of districts...literally. Some of our corps didn't even have a district first couple days.

Even with our little amount of districts CRONOS attacked, and wanted our land. So that's when the first big war started. Our objective became to wipe Orion and CRONOS off the map. With the combined efforts of EoN and NF, Orion was gone within a week or so. Leaving CRONOS.

Now all this time, other corps had their own beef going on. HS, PHI, KEQ, STB, and a few others, so they let our war be. Nobody joined the bandwagon at that point, and the map was open for business. Which Ill Omens, or rather Nikia, saw an invitation to bite off more than he can chew. Despite other CEO's objecting to him attacking and taking more land than we needed, he still proceeded. By the time he got the boot from his own corp, and the alliance, EoN had way too much land IMO.

By that time we adopted a few smaller corps, and an alliance was formed against EoN. Little did people realize, or cared, that EoN was busy selling off land because it was too much for people to protect, and activity was low. BUT, and this is the important part, it got an alliance to form against us, which brought back people to the game. It brought me back, as at that point I gave up on DUST.

That war lasted about 2 weeks, and I'm missing out the 1 week war against HS before this. Then AE continued to attack, even though people didn't give a shite about DUST again lol.

The CEO in charge of EoN had already set a date to leave DUST, hence all the land being sold / given away. So in the end, the community got land, and they got sort of fresh start to MH. Problem was, the big blue donut was an inevitability, and DNS control of MH is the result of no competition. No competitiveness left in the DUST community.

Please note that I might have missed a couple details, and facts, but tbh, who cares. EoN was a donut but there still remained competition. DNS is a bigger donut with no competition.

Edit: I'm not complaining, or anything about what DNS did. I'm pointing out that the community has no one to blame but themselves. Either join the farming simulator, or make an alliance against them. In other words, put up, or shut up.

There's nothing stopping you from taking their land and stopping them from "winning the game".

All you need is 16 good players.

I do agree with you. We DNS are pretty much making it farmville. But I'm going to be honest and say that that is exactly what I want. And before you judge me for not wanting to be competitive, know that I at least have the courtesy of being honest about it. Besides, didn't Eon. do the same thing? Not trying to judge, but well.....

So being grammatically correct is wrong?

What should I refer to DNS as then hmm? Partners? Predecessors?

I knowledge that I didn't really help with anything here, but seriously. What do I address them as then if not "us"?