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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:10:00 -
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I've realized after my previous post (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2068149#post2068149) that the CPU/PG for the scouts are incorrect because they do not favor the role of that certain scout.
With max Electronics and Engineering you get:
Amarr CPU / PG = 446 / 92
Gallente CPU / PG = 433 / 97
CaldariCPU / PG = 457 / 87
Minmatar CPU / PG = 480 / 81
Notice how the Gal scout has the most PG and the Minmatar has the lowest. However the Minmatar scout has 3 low slots whereas the Cal scout has only 2, yet the cal scout has more PG. Furthermore the Cal scout has 1 more High slot but has less CPU. The Amarr scout is the only one that seems balanced in terms of CPU/PG usage.
The point here is that if Minmatar Scouts are supposed to be speed based, why do they have the LEAST pg? Complex Kin cats require 15 pg each, which makes the fittings for Minmatar scouts very near impossible. It seems as if the Gal scout was meant for being more speed based because it has the MOST PG yet that is not it's defined role.
This means one of two things needs to happen, either Kin Cats need a reduction in PG and increase in CPU, OR the Minmatar scouts need more PG.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:25:00 -
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This is more an issue with the outrageous fitting costs for kincats.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:26:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:This is more an issue with the outrageous fitting costs for kincats.
Yea I mentioned that.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:36:00 -
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Can we also look at how the Gallente Scout has more PG, even though Amarr Weapons are famously PG hungry, and Cardiac Regulators use infinitely more PG than Profile Dampeners...
Yet again, let's raise the question.
Why use an Amarr Scout instead of a Gallente one?
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:39:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Can we also look at how the Gallente Scout has more PG, even though Amarr Weapons are famously PG hungry, and Cardiac Regulators use infinitely more PG than Profile Dampeners...
Yet again, let's raise the question.
Why use an Amarr Scout instead of a Gallente one?
Exactly. It's as if the Gal Scouts were meant to be speed based and the Amarr scouts were somewhere in between.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:12:00 -
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I always figured the high CPU capacity and large amount of low slots on the Minmatar Scout was for Codebreakers, as it is supposed to be the best hacking platform in the game.
Like my ideas?
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:46:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I always figured the high CPU capacity and large amount of low slots on the Minmatar Scout was for Codebreakers, as it is supposed to be the best hacking platform in the game.
Yeah but codebreakers use a lot of pg as well.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:01:00 -
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Fair enough, I don't run Minmatar scout so I can't comment directly.
Like my ideas?
Pokey Dravon for CPM1
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:27:00 -
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I only need 1 more pg
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:39:00 -
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Considering the Caldari has more pg yet it has less low slots on the proto suggests the Minmatar Scout needs a PG Buff and CPU Nerf.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.04.20 04:11:00 -
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Man, i like my gal scout's speed...
Assassination is my thing.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 04:11:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Man, i like my gal scout's speed...
Yea you really weren't meant for it...lol...oh wait according to CCP you were because you get the most PG ...
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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LittleCuteBunny
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Posted - 2014.04.20 04:28:00 -
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+1
Minmatar Scouts should be able to fit kinetic and hacking modules easier than any other scout, Therefore an increase in CPU and decrease in PG usage of both module types is necessary.
I would seeing other scouts having a hard time fitting this modules, it makes no sense to give Minmatar Scout such bonuses and make it so difficult for them to take advantage of them.
Retired.
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 04:41:00 -
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amarr scout prof 5 need to hav e 25 % bonus to all type of biotic module + a change in movement speed it should be 5.39 sprint 7.55 its means that the amarr scout will be the faster sprinter scout with 3 kin cat but u most sacrifice a **** load of pg and ehp . |
Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 05:55:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:amarr scout prof 5 need to hav e 25 % bonus to all type of biotic module instead of 25 % stamina ******* bs + a change in movement speed it should be 5.39 sprint 7.55 its means that the amarr scout will be the faster sprinter(11.35 m/s) scout with 3 kin cat but u most sacrifice a **** load of pg and ehp .
But it's the Min Scout that's supposed to be the fastest, the Amarr scout is the tanky one , therefore it is supposed to be the slowest.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
329
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Posted - 2014.04.21 03:05:00 -
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if amarr have bonus to Cardiac Regulator why not Kinetic Catalyzer its the same type of module |
Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 03:48:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:if amarr have bonus to Cardiac Regulator why not Kinetic Catalyzer its the same type of module
Both the Minmatar and Amarr should get bonuses to Bioitics- it makes the most sense, where Min should get speed and stamina regen, Amarr can get stamina regen and more movement speed.
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
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X7 lion
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.21 05:33:00 -
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change the gallente scout and ill never stop huting you down -,.,-
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.21 13:29:00 -
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Each suit has their own strengths and weaknesses. If you want vanilla go play COD.
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