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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:37:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:where are you getting 50,000 players from? Edit: there is no 50,000 players. They don't exist. There is no number on that entire page of the eve charts that show 50,000 players.. Look at the live feed charts. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I can see the charts if there were only 4,000 active people that would mean all 4000 are playing this game 24/7 no that means 4000 players are active. Not playing 24/7. Do you know how to read charts? and where is your charts (links) to prove your 50,000 player theory? So are you saying because i am not playing right now i am an inactive dust player? No, I am saying your active as long as you play withing that time span. So your active in 24hours, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. So if you play once in one year... Your active in 1 year but not 24 hours, 1 week, or 1 month. Which is way they have charts for each time period. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3467
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:38:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:where are you getting 50,000 players from? Edit: there is no 50,000 players. They don't exist. There is no number on that entire page of the eve charts that show 50,000 players.. Look at the live feed charts. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I can see the charts if there were only 4,000 active people that would mean all 4000 are playing this game 24/7 no that means 4000 players are active. Not playing 24/7. Do you know how to read charts? and where is your charts (links) to prove your 50,000 player theory? So are you saying because i am not playing right now i am an inactive dust player? No, I am saying your active as long as you play withing that time span. So your active in 24hours, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. So if you play once in one year... Your active in 1 year but not 24 hours, 1 week, or 1 month. Which is way they have charts for each time period. your an idiot
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
274
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:43:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Dustboard shows 6M accounts...many collecting passive SP.
Expect a lot of talented 10M+ SP characters to suddenly become active with the introduction of better NPE, PVE, eve integration, etc.
Enjoy your limited success while it lasts... Dustboard shows players, not accounts, and 6m include players that were delete or ban.
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:43:00 -
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Well your stupid cause you cant read charts which i learned in 5th grade |
Justice Prevails
252
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:44:00 -
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Kratek Heshan wrote:people got different timezone dude some are asleep get it...and we don't play 24 hours a day we got jobs and other things to do.
Anyone who is better than me must not have a job or life. At least that's what I tell myself, to make myself feel better.
Don't think it is as dire as only 4000, but don't think it's 50000. Gotta take alts into account.
Wish they would improve the NPE, it's just going to get worse. Maybe make it 5 mil sp before graduation. This way, the new guys will have somewhat of a leg to stand on, and time invested to consider toughing it out, once they leave the academy.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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Rusty Shallows
1550
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:45:00 -
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Those numbers don't take into account the number of people logging in and not playing. After 1.8 all three of my accounts started to be logged daily for the bonus SP. My active game time is generally once a week.
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:46:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Kratek Heshan wrote:people got different timezone dude some are asleep get it...and we don't play 24 hours a day we got jobs and other things to do. Anyone who is better than me must not have a job or life. At least that's what I tell myself, to make myself feel better. Don't think it is as dire as only 4000, but don't think it's 50000. Gotta take alts into account. Wish they would improve the NPE, it's just going to get worse. Maybe make it 5 mil sp before graduation. This way, the new guys will have somewhat of a leg to stand on, and time invested to consider toughing it out, once they leave the academy. did you look at the livefeed charts or just in plain denial? |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:47:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Those numbers don't take into account the number of people logging in and not playing. After 1.8 all three of my accounts started to be logged daily for the bonus SP. My active game time is generally once a week. Its per system not per account. For example eve online can have multiple accounts so do they keep that information in line? they do it by per system not account. |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:48:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:where are you getting 50,000 players from? Edit: there is no 50,000 players. They don't exist. There is no number on that entire page of the eve charts that show 50,000 players.. Look at the live feed charts. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I can see the charts if there were only 4,000 active people that would mean all 4000 are playing this game 24/7 no that means 4000 players are active. Not playing 24/7. Do you know how to read charts? and where is your charts (links) to prove your 50,000 player theory? So are you saying because i am not playing right now i am an inactive dust player? Well your stupid cause you cant read charts which i learned in 5th grade |
Justice Prevails
252
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:49:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Justice Prevails wrote:Kratek Heshan wrote:people got different timezone dude some are asleep get it...and we don't play 24 hours a day we got jobs and other things to do. Anyone who is better than me must not have a job or life. At least that's what I tell myself, to make myself feel better. Don't think it is as dire as only 4000, but don't think it's 50000. Gotta take alts into account. Wish they would improve the NPE, it's just going to get worse. Maybe make it 5 mil sp before graduation. This way, the new guys will have somewhat of a leg to stand on, and time invested to consider toughing it out, once they leave the academy. did you look at the livefeed charts or just in plain denial?
Denial. Will let you know when i move on to recognition and acceptence.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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Mary Overdrive
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:50:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote: That is not active players. More importantly do you know what the server we run off does? its handles more than one game at a time. I handles Eve online server and Dust 514. Do you players you see on the game log is both eve and dust
i play almost cap my character every week, i have over 44mil SP but i am not logged in right now are you saying i am not an active player of this game? Yes i know what server we run off of i play both Dust and EVE. the current player dust players logged in right now is 4,000 but people who actively play this game is over 50,000. just because i am not logged in at this second does not mean i am not an active dust player. Viktor your just grasping at straws. |
da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
787
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:there are like over 50,000 active player on dust. No there is not... Thats tranquilty server. That includes eve too. I'm not talking people on at this exact minute. im talking about people who actively play dust even if it is a like one or two games a day.
I highly doubt the total amount of people that play Dust is even close to that. I'd say it's close to 20,000 at the most.
Rage at Fanfest??
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Forlorn Destrier
2370
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:52:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust 1. We have only been out of beta for a year (next month) 2. That is 4000 at one time, not total number of players 3. You're over-reacting Incorrect, that 4000 to 4550 during a weekly cycle these records are shown on live servers and are not wrong.
So you are saying there were 4000 people logged in 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a an entire month? Even on the one that says "Past 24 hours"? Please read your proof again and reconsider your logic. |
Mary Overdrive
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:52:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:burning powers wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:there are like over 50,000 active player on dust. No there is not... Thats tranquilty server. That includes eve too. I'm not talking people on at this exact minute. im talking about people who actively play dust even if it is a like one or two games a day. I highly doubt the total amount of people that play Dust is even close to that. I'd say it's close to 20,000 at the most. Well you be highly wrong. |
Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
107
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:52:00 -
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Read this
If you look at new player creations you will see that we have a sizable amount of players with a account. This means that we have the numbers to support the 50000 players a day. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
762
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:54:00 -
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Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
I feel like you had a main account that got banned before.
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
DNS first to use game theory.
Neo-Realism.
Prisoner dilemma look it up b4 you meta
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:54:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:burning powers wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust 1. We have only been out of beta for a year (next month) 2. That is 4000 at one time, not total number of players 3. You're over-reacting Incorrect, that 4000 to 4550 during a weekly cycle these records are shown on live servers and are not wrong. So you are saying there were 4000 people logged in 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a an entire month? Even on the one that says "Past 24 hours"? Please read your proof again and reconsider your logic. you understand a live server right? Meaning it records during its live broadcasting. So that means players are active not during a 24 hour time period but thats the highest number achieved during that 24 hour time peroid. Why do you think the charts are similar to circles? |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:56:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:Read thisIf you look at new player creations you will see that we have a sizable amount of players with a account. This means that we have the numbers to support the 50000 players a day. thats no even possible because the current record as it show on that same page is 8000 players period. Read the ******* charts. |
Mary Overdrive
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:57:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I feel like you had a main account that got banned before. how did you know? It because I speak the truth. |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:00:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:burning powers wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust 1. We have only been out of beta for a year (next month) 2. That is 4000 at one time, not total number of players 3. You're over-reacting Incorrect, that 4000 to 4550 during a weekly cycle these records are shown on live servers and are not wrong. So you are saying there were 4000 people logged in 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a an entire month? Even on the one that says "Past 24 hours"? Please read your proof again and reconsider your logic. As a matter of fact.. I will cross reverence it. I hope you understand what that means and what logic means as well.
Dust live server. http://www.dustcharts.com/
Tranquility live server http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
They are both the same which means the data is competely accurate.
Edit: So do you understand logic now? or is that too many graphs and logic for you small feeble brain to handle? If it is, you should stop gnawing on the lead paint from your baby crib. |
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
1454
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:02:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr
The point is that 4,000 players online at the same time is not an acceptable number of people active in this game. 4,000 people online indicates that there are a low number of active Dust players in the community.
Having 20,000-60,000 people online at the same time, would be more acceptable number of players online as that would indicate a large flourishing playerbase in the hundreds of thousands.
Remember, this is a free to play game. These games need to retain as many players as they can, they need a large playerbase because only as small percentage of people actually spend any money on the game. And even fewer people are willing to spend hundreds or thousands on the game.
Also, the point of the OP's post is valid. The point is that Dust has become stagnant. It's hardly growing at all. We have a tiny hardcore playerbase, surrounded by loads of people who don't play this game very much except to participate in an event or new patch, and all of this is floating around an ocean of inactive accounts of the players who have no tolerance for bullshit moment to moment game design and performance.
Realize that anyone giving CCP the benefit of the doubt is the vocal minority. The forgotten inactive accounts are the silent majority.
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:04:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr
The point is that 4,000 players online at the same time is not an acceptable number of people active in this game. 4,000 people online indicates that there are a low number of active Dust players in the community.
Having 20,000-60,000 people online at the same time, would be more acceptable number of players online as that would indicate a large flourishing playerbase in the hundreds of thousands.
Remember, this is a free to play game. These games need to retain as many players as they can, they need a large playerbase because only as small percentage of people actually spend any money on the game. And even fewer people are willing to spend hundreds or thousands on the game.
Also, the point of the OP's post is valid. The point is that Dust has become stagnant. It's hardly growing at all. We have a tiny hardcore playerbase, surrounded by loads of people who don't play this game very much except to participate in an event or new patch, and all of this is floating around an ocean of inactive accounts of the players who have no tolerance for bullshit game moment to moment game design and performance.
Realize that anyone giving CCP the benefit of the doubt is the vocal minority. The forgotten inactive accounts are the silent majority. Thank you good sir,
(extends a hand to shake)
See, this is a logical dude. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:07:00 -
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Chribba! The dumbs are loose again
Can you come fix this?
Deciphering the truth from a web of lies is far easier than you'd think. Especially if you're a bureaucrat.
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
443
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:12:00 -
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This gloom and doom crap again.
Dust like EVE does not appeal to most gamers. Most gamers like easy cookie cutter games they can beat or max out in a few months. Dust will never be like that. It will always change and will always have low player numbers when compared to other FPS games.
EVE only has a 500k player base. Compared to other mmos like WOW or even Star Wars the EVE's player count might be considered low. But EVE has constantly grown for many years.
And like Dust EVE had a rocky start. At the beginning many players were convinced EVE was dying and would fade away. Those players were wrong. Over the years EVE has grown from a game nobody heard of, to one that breaks records, makes international press and even has college courses that study EVE, its market and its social interactions.
Dust will only attract a small portion of gamers, but it will continue to grow. Once we make it past this rocky beginning, and most importantly once it is ported to PS4, the player base will continue to grow, albeit slowly.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
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Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
229
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:15:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:This gloom and doom crap again.
Dust like EVE does not appeal to most gamers. Most gamers like easy cookie cutter games they can beat or max out in a few months. Dust will never be like that. It will always change and will always have low player numbers when compared to other FPS games.
EVE only has a 500k player base. Compared to other mmos like WOW or even Star Wars the EVE's player count might be considered low. But EVE has constantly grown for many years.
And like Dust EVE had a rocky start. At the beginning many players were convinced EVE was dying and would fade away. Those players were wrong. Over the years EVE has grown from a game nobody hard of, to one that breaks records, makes international press and even has college courses that study EVE, its market and its social interactions.
Dust will only attract a small portion of gamers, but it will continue to grow. Once we make it past this rocky beginning, and most importantly once it is ported to PS4, the player base will continue to grow, albeit slowly. I agree. Good post. Though unlike EVE, Dust have not build a name for itself yet. EVE gain alot of notice because of the level of freedom and incredible player created stories. That really does not happen as much in dust due to lack of freedom. But you are right about the rocky start and we can still hope that its just a rocky start. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
763
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:16:00 -
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Mary Overdrive wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I feel like you had a main account that got banned before. how did you know? It because I speak the truth.
No you're acting like you deserve to be banned.
Doom and gloom crap. What is your goal to make the player pop. less
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
DNS first to use game theory.
Neo-Realism.
Prisoner dilemma look it up b4 you meta
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1399
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:29:00 -
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Mary Overdrive wrote:There is only 4000 players active on a regular basis... This game has been out for that long and still have not grown an inch. We had the highest player count around 9000 during beta and than we remain at this pitiful player bases for nearly 2 years since beta. I have been gone for like 3 months and a few new weapons suits and gear have changed but no new content on maps, modes, exploration, MMO aspects, Eve intergration, or anything to get new players or even keep MMO players. This ***** just lobby shooting all day long. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust What!? You want CCP to deliver on the game they marketed instead of this piece of crap lobby shooter!? You crazy person, didn't you know CCP is a marketing company not a game developer?
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
109
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:30:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:Read thisIf you look at new player creations you will see that we have a sizable amount of players with a account. This means that we have the numbers to support the 50000 players a day. thats no even possible because the current record as it show on that same page is 8000 players period. Read the ******* charts. Ok jackass I get paid to read charts ok? The servers send data to he chat every 5 min, you following me here right? If you look at the chart in the top right you will see that this is correct. If you see next to the player stats next to the 24hr max you will see a date heat date and time is within the last 24 hr correct? Yes it is because that is the max for the last 24 hrs got that?
Now obviously there is player turnover so that means that the max is only a snapshot during peak hours. I am not arguing the point that this player base is far to small I am saying that just because that the Max is 4000 ish dos NOT mean that only 400 logged on during the day. Now please stop calling people stupid because you can't understand and have to cherrypick your data. Have a nice day |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
531
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:33:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:burning powers wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:Read thisIf you look at new player creations you will see that we have a sizable amount of players with a account. This means that we have the numbers to support the 50000 players a day. thats no even possible because the current record as it show on that same page is 8000 players period. Read the ******* charts. Ok jackass I get paid to read charts ok? The servers send data to he chat every 5 min, you following me here right? If you look at the chart in the top right you will see that this is correct. If you see next to the player stats next to the 24hr max you will see a date heat date and time is within the last 24 hr correct? Yes it is because that is the max for the last 24 hrs got that? Now obviously there is player turnover so that means that the max is only a snapshot during peak hours. I am not arguing the point that this player base is far to small I am saying that just because that the Max is 4000 ish dos NOT mean that only 400 logged on during the day. Now please stop calling people stupid because you can't understand and have to cherrypick your data. Have a nice day
jesus fuk thank you, cant type out walls of text like that on my phone.
Deciphering the truth from a web of lies is far easier than you'd think. Especially if you're a bureaucrat.
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Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
109
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:36:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:burning powers wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:Read thisIf you look at new player creations you will see that we have a sizable amount of players with a account. This means that we have the numbers to support the 50000 players a day. thats no even possible because the current record as it show on that same page is 8000 players period. Read the ******* charts. Ok jackass I get paid to read charts ok? The servers send data to he chat every 5 min, you following me here right? If you look at the chart in the top right you will see that this is correct. If you see next to the player stats next to the 24hr max you will see a date heat date and time is within the last 24 hr correct? Yes it is because that is the max for the last 24 hrs got that? Now obviously there is player turnover so that means that the max is only a snapshot during peak hours. I am not arguing the point that this player base is far to small I am saying that just because that the Max is 4000 ish dos NOT mean that only 400 logged on during the day. Now please stop calling people stupid because you can't understand and have to cherrypick your data. Have a nice day jesus fuk thank you, cant type out walls of text like that on my phone. I know it's a lot easier on an iPad |
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