DUST Search - What do you really want from dust

A'Real Fury wrote:

I think for me what I want is a fun game where I have a chance at killing people.

Hate to say this but for the NPE CCP should probably take away our passive HP and DPS boosts and bring the HP values of suits closer together. The alternative would be to bring in extremely powerful weapons that can kill anything in 2 shots.

Yes this would make Dust more like BF4 and other similar games and there are many players who are very much against this but if people do not have a real chance of killing people in an FPS game then it will die.

I think that is why there is so much hate for the cloaked scout shotgunner as they hate the fact the someone in a STD suit with a STD shotgun now has a genuine chance at killing a Protosuit.

The fact is I like having the extra HP and DPS that being a vet affords but it is not helping the game grow. It is probably one of the few things I like about other FPS games such as BF4 etc is that even new players have a real chance of taking anyone out given luck, positioning and optimum ranges because in terms of HP everyone is equal.

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ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1259	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:13:00 - [1] - Quote i read through the treads daily and i have come to the conclusion players don't want this game balanced. instead they want it to remain broken players complain about balance, this is OP that is UP and ccp buffs nerfs everything regularly to accommodate those views and then the moaning continues. ask yourself this, "do you really think dust will ever be as balanced as every other game out there" the current answer for me is "Not a chance in hell" CCP listens to the community through these forums and the cpm and try their best to give us what we want but what we want is not always good for the game. this is why we have the forums so we can suggests ideas and offer up constructive criticism. if a post is bad then say so. don't just troll it, give a reason and a solution to fix the problem you see. the same goes for if its a good idea. tell the OP its good, add to it if you want. don't just read it and move on. trolling aside we all want this game to work. if we don't work together we will never see this game working to its full potential I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3687	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:24:00 - [2] - Quote If CCP actually knew how to digest information and code accordingly, we have provided the math and reasoning behind proper fixes. Yet, they always come out of nowhere with some ridiculously off-target patches that just make things worse. We plea for a moment of sensibility and clarity in hopes that someday they'll listen to the quality members and ideas of the community and learn to rely on our decades of experience in a genre they've only begun experimentation with. I GÖú Kittens.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2337	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:25:00 - [3] - Quote Balance and stability. If there's anything I hate, is when something doesn't work the way it's supposed to.
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4789	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:29:00 - [4] - Quote Dust is actually incredibly balanced at the moment: more so than most other games on the market. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Thumb Green Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 914	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:30:00 - [5] - Quote Major bugs to be fixed. Support Orbital Spawns
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12864	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:39:00 - [6] - Quote Anyone who thinks the forums are anything more than a vacuum are fooling themselves. My expectations for dust could literally not be lower. My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3411	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:40:00 - [7] - Quote CCP listen to the lolcpm Good joke
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 786	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:42:00 - [8] - Quote I WANT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rage at Fanfest??
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 153	Posted - 2014.04.18 15:39:00 - [9] - Quote Nice thread. I think different people want very different things from dust, and I think it would pay off to clarify what the different motivations are. 20mio SP one year player here: I primary want more players in dust, so CCP can make more coin out of it and has the opportunity to deliver more and more content for years to come. Love the designs, lore and generally new stuff. I love balanced matches. Its fun to have a challenge and still have a chance. I want to have the opportunity to jump in and out of dust at any given time, play a bit and not need to hardcore around to take part. Finally, I want to play with my friends. But I cant get them into the game, because its too punishing / no fun at low levels. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Operative 2511 Dajli True Companion Planetary Requisitions 18	Posted - 2014.04.18 15:49:00 - [10] - Quote Sarcasm, negative criticism and verbal abuse are the best motivators. If CCP Shangai is crying over this forum's criticisms now, wait until they're cashing those severance checks and moving boxes out the door. WoD 514 indeed. Lol, World of Darkness. How prophetic. Lol, the ban hammer got me!

RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 89	Posted - 2014.04.18 16:18:00 - [11] - Quote da GAND wrote: I WANT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, not gonna lie, that was such a sick trailer. Of course, if there's one thing CCP is actually really good at, it's trailers. Now, if they could get the game to half what the trailers show, this game would be unstopable
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 787	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:10:00 - [12] - Quote RayRay James wrote: da GAND wrote: I WANT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, not gonna lie, that was such a sick trailer. Of course, if there's one thing CCP is actually really good at, it's trailers. Now, if they could get the game to half what the trailers show, this game would be unstopable True, it just needs to get to that point. They told us we had no chance, that we were fools to even try( " You're crazy!!! they have the Imperfects protecting that planet and you're an idiot for even thinking about trying to take that planet from them "). But I'm a Mercenary I don't judge your ambitions, I only judge what you can afford. Pay my price and I'll strike down the heavens, I fought your wars a thousand times and I won them all and I know this is the moment that will change everything. On this day the blood I spill will bring down an empire and the world will burn before your very eyes. They will remember us and they'll remember what happened here, on this battlefield one shot will change the course of history and your going to be the one who takes it. Rage at Fanfest??
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 306	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:12:00 - [13] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Major bugs to be fixed. Sprinting Bug! "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3453	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:30:00 - [14] - Quote I don't think Dust is as out of balance as people seem to think. I think that some players just take longer to adapt. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Jadd Hatchen The Phoenix Federation 532	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:35:00 - [15] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: i read through the treads daily and i have come to the conclusion players don't want this game balanced. instead they want it to remain broken players complain about balance, this is OP that is UP and ccp buffs nerfs everything regularly to accommodate those views and then the moaning continues. ask yourself this, "do you really think dust will ever be as balanced as every other game out there" the current answer for me is "Not a chance in hell" CCP listens to the community through these forums and the cpm and try their best to give us what we want but what we want is not always good for the game. this is why we have the forums so we can suggests ideas and offer up constructive criticism. if a post is bad then say so. don't just troll it, give a reason and a solution to fix the problem you see. the same goes for if its a good idea. tell the OP its good, add to it if you want. don't just read it and move on. trolling aside we all want this game to work. if we don't work together we will never see this game working to its full potential I really couldn't give two sh*ts about complete game balance. What I do want is for CCP to get back to the original concept of this game and how it was supposed to interface with EVE! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155753&find=unread AND https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137656&find=unread
BFT CDWIII Ultramarine Corp 0	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:06:00 - [16] - Quote PVE it will allow dust to grow a powerbase so we are not stuck fighting the same people every other match. PVE will get the new player experience from what it is right now to something somewhat playable. This game is completly about your total lifetime SP and where you put it if you put your sp in the right skills you can be viable at 5 million. But you will not be competitive till you have at least 15 million. To be competitive against the 40-60 million sp bitter vets you need at least 25-30 million sp depending on what you are going to use. The new player with 500 thousand sp dose not stand a chance after academy. Mlita gear for the win Cheaper gear for the win Fitting/Skill advisor any questions please ask
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1275	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:16:00 - [17] - Quote Satisfaction, Fun and feel cool while doing so. *Assassination is my thing.*
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 667	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:27:00 - [18] - Quote I think for me what I want is a fun game where I have a chance at killing people. Hate to say this but for the NPE CCP should probably take away our passive HP and DPS boosts and bring the HP values of suits closer together. The alternative would be to bring in extremely powerful weapons that can kill anything in 2 shots. Yes this would make Dust more like BF4 and other similar games and there are many players who are very much against this but if people do not have a real chance of killing people in an FPS game then it will die. I think that is why there is so much hate for the cloaked scout shotgunner as they hate the fact the someone in a STD suit with a STD shotgun now has a genuine chance at killing a Protosuit. The fact is I like having the extra HP and DPS that being a vet affords but it is not helping the game grow. It is probably one of the few things I like about other FPS games such as BF4 etc is that even new players have a real chance of taking anyone out given luck, positioning and optimum ranges because in terms of HP everyone is equal.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 787	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:47:00 - [19] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: I think for me what I want is a fun game where I have a chance at killing people. Hate to say this but for the NPE CCP should probably take away our passive HP and DPS boosts and bring the HP values of suits closer together. The alternative would be to bring in extremely powerful weapons that can kill anything in 2 shots. Yes this would make Dust more like BF4 and other similar games and there are many players who are very much against this but if people do not have a real chance of killing people in an FPS game then it will die. I think that is why there is so much hate for the cloaked scout shotgunner as they hate the fact the someone in a STD suit with a STD shotgun now has a genuine chance at killing a Protosuit. The fact is I like having the extra HP and DPS that being a vet affords but it is not helping the game grow. It is probably one of the few things I like about other FPS games such as BF4 etc is that even new players have a real chance of taking anyone out given luck, positioning and optimum ranges because in terms of HP everyone is equal. Or they could just make the academy much much longer, put a decent tutorial in the game and make a mode where people can play practice matches against enemy drones and mortal or immortal troops controlled by an AI. And keep proto weapons + suits out of pub matches for now. Rage at Fanfest??
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 124	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:55:00 - [20] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: I really couldn't give two sh*ts about complete game balance. What I do want is for CCP to get back to the original concept of this game and how it was supposed to interface with EVE! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155753&find=unread AND https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137656&find=unread This.



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