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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:31:00 -
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Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me:
Hello CCP,
Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher?
Please and thank you.
~Maximus Stryker
It would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:43:00 -
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CCP talks more than they do.
And they don't talk a whole lot.
Remember that when Fanfest rolls around.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3127
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:47:00 -
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CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4586
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:03:00 -
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We definetly need this |
Joseph Ridgeson
warravens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:09:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. So more EVE-DUST integration, battles that 'actually matter', better NPE, free hats, etc?
Two weeks until FanFest. Hopefully we can hear some cool things that will come out soon and no "MTAC" level announcements.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:47:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more.
A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting.
B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game.
I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it.
I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept.
Thanks you.
~Max
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:48:00 -
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For Fan Fest
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:52:00 -
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somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that
That's heavy doc.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2013
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:54:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me:
Hello CCP,
Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher?
Please and thank you.
~Maximus Stryker
It would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance. Those are available in Call of Duty and Battlefield.
If you want those modes, stop trying to ruin Dust and go back to those two games.
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
301
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:59:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future.
Can you elaborate a little, please? Will CCP go into more detail about expanding the EVE/Dust link (the most unique aspect of this game) during fanfest?
Or are they going to drop giant robots on our heads (yes, I don't want to deal with MTACs).
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
786
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Posted - 2014.04.18 05:00:00 -
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that
Lolz while CCP has pissed most off most of us that have been here since closed and open beta I think it's best to see what CCP has to show what they have for Dust 514 before anyone throws their shows at them at the table on the stage where they answer questions.
Rage at Fanfest??
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Operative 2511 Dajli
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.04.18 06:01:00 -
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that
Yeah, if it's a nice shoe I'd get them to throw the other one too. Hook me up b*tches!
Lol, the ban hammer got me!
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Operative 2511 Dajli
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
14
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Posted - 2014.04.18 06:03:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that Lolz while CCP has pissed most off most of us that have been here since closed and open beta I think it's best to see what CCP has to show what they have for Dust 514 before anyone throws their shows at them at the table on the stage where they answer questions.
The way CCP has been going, it's a wonder someone hasn't nerd raged Fanfest with a gun. I'm waiting for that to be a thing. Lol.
Lol, the ban hammer got me!
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3129
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Posted - 2014.04.18 07:07:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
918
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:20:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me:
Hello CCP,
Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher?
Please and thank you.
~Maximus Stryker
It would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance. Those are available in Call of Duty and Battlefield. If you want those modes, stop trying to ruin Dust and go back to those two games. Unfortunately, you made a bad assumption, it is not my intent to ruin Dust, contrary to what you may believe.
I understand those game modes are available in other games, thanks for pointing out the obvious thought
- I do not want to take out the depth that Dust provides, I love that aspect of this game...a lot actually. Keep pubs, keep Faction Warfare, keep PC, create nullsec, add PVE, open markets adn manufacturing, continue with an awesome EVE-DUST linking of the universe. I am simply suggesting adding on top of it. If you don't want to play FFA or CTF, don't. You can exist the same exact way you are now and not be the wiser. For those that like that sort of thing, they have the option to play it. For those that occasionally like it, they can occasionally play it. No harm no foul.
- I am not sure if you hang out much in the War Room or participate in 'Competitive' conversations about this game but there is a lot of talk about 'competitive' dust and the old corp battle system and planet fight club this and Dirt nap league that. That is small potatoes and obsolete once you establish battle arenas/e-sports. The the large e-peen wagging, smack talking kiddies can settle their scores in a proper manner.
Lastly, and to ensure you are understanding me, I do not think adding Battle Arenas sooner rather than later will ruin dust, I actually think it will enhance it, though I do appreciate your well thought out reply, I know it took you awhile to think of all that
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
918
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:27:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. Understood and I appreciate you sharing CCP's point of view.
Are most of the core gameplay mechanics not already in the game? Maybe I do not understand what all falls under the umbrella of "Core Gameplay Mechanics"
I am not sure where CCP categorizes and ranks PVE/drones and PC 2.0 but I would argue that Battle Arenas belong right beside them in high importance.
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:37:00 -
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that Like this?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:17:00 -
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that I smell a Challenge... Jadek, how many tickets is it worth? (Instant Lottery Winner, IMO.)
I GÖú Kittens.
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Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation
198
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:08:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. This is to anyone calling CTF Superficial ;(
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Nelo Angel0
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
242
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:14:00 -
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Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes |
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
797
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:16:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes
+1 completely agree, we need dust to become more if an MMO-FPS not this lobby shooter with very few modes.
Rage at Fanfest??
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4838
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:16:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max It actually wouldn't add much to content- just a few game modes that can't be used in any other situation.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1989
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Posted - 2014.04.21 12:08:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. ^ What bothers me most about this statement is that 'Core Gameplay Mechanics' is not the same as 'Core FPS Mechanics', at least not in the parlance we've been using on these forums.
If Rouge is developing 'gameplay' before 'FPS' it would be a terrible mistake, and one that CCP has already made, repeatedly. If he's developing real FPS mechanics then there's hope.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.04.21 15:45:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max It actually wouldn't add much to content- just a few game modes that can't be used in any other situation. Again, I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree more.
1) New game modes 2) New maps/sockets 3) Additional ranking systems 4) E-sports and betting/gambling 5) Arena Battles would help keep the tryhards entertained 6) A place for new players to practice and get used to game mechanics before getting stompted in pubs 7) A place for all those who complain about getting "protostomped" to play in matches that restrict gear, weapons and suits 8) An excellent place for community building and User Generated Content 9) A place to test gear, weapons and suits 10) The only real way to ensure "competitive matches"
Yeah, not much content though.
If done right, Arena Battles could be the greatest and best asset to DUST 514, in my opinion of course.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:44:00 -
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Really hoping this gets some good attention at FanFest this weekend!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
9122
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:59:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. ^ What bothers me most about this statement is that 'Core Gameplay Mechanics' is not the same as 'Core FPS Mechanics', at least not in the parlance we've been using on these forums. If Rouge is developing 'gameplay' before 'FPS' it would be a terrible mistake, and one that CCP has already made, repeatedly. If he's developing real FPS mechanics then there's hope. The FPS mechanics are fine, they really are. Yeah they can be better, but the game needs more "gameplay".
From 1.2 to 1.8 CCP has been pretty much working on the FPS part more than anything else, I think it's time to add gameplay.
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KILLER 20965
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
3
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:33:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3874
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:43:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
785
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:49:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises.
Ahhh, very wise. I see you like to get your information from those who couldn't possibly have any first hand knowledge of the matter. Very wise indeed. Gossip, some may call it, but those people aren't nearly as scrutinizing as you. I, however, don't work for CCP. Let me tell you everything you want to hear. You can believe me.
Saberwing handles things like this a lot better than I could.
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
489
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:49:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP*
Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale?
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
852
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:54:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag.
For fucks sake, hasn't that been the GOAL all along for a year now?
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5084
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:57:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me:
Hello CCP,
Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher?
Please and thank you.
~Maximus Stryker
It would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance. Those are available in Call of Duty and Battlefield. If you want those modes, stop trying to ruin Dust and go back to those two games. Are you ******* serious? Did you even read the post?
"Gladiator", as they called the system, was thuroughly explained AND vetted in lore as the advent of clone soldiers allowing for "bloodsport" in the form of televised arena matches which are gambled on.
This is a completely separate system from the Instant Battle contracts we would have right now, allowing for a different kind of gameplay to be added to the systems we already have. It's basically providing players with more options without detracting in ANY way from the current experience.
Can you just try to not be that annoying for once?
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
935
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:25:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far. Did anyone else go when they read this?
Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much.
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
438
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:34:00 -
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Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me:
"Do ya even lift brah?"
It will be much apreciated by myself and athe audience.
Thanks for your attention.
another one bites the Dust...
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3878
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:14:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there.
Your Absolut End wrote:Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me:
"Do ya even lift brah?" I do.
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
432
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:23:00 -
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... Skirmish 1.0 returns?
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Ghural
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
190
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:24:00 -
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Why are people complaining so much?
Excuse me whilst I use the PS Vita neocon ap to work on my fittings... Um Ok then maybe I'll use the EVE mobile ap that was "going to be your hands by next fanfest ... Um Fine, I'll just go chill out in the 10 year vet station in EVE that was also meant to be out by fanfest ... Oh crap.
The truth is CCPs word is ****. They don't deliver on their promises.
The real shame is that there is no excitement for me when they announce stuff, as I don't have the faith that they will deliver it.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:20:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there.
Did anyone else go when they read this?
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:40:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me:
Hello CCP,
Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher?
Please and thank you.
~Maximus Stryker
It would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
e-sports ???? man you are in the wrong game !!!
This will help the game
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
772
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:02:00 -
[40] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far. Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity?
*cough*
Team Fairy DUST
HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
937
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:28:00 -
[41] - Quote
Odigos Ellinas wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me:
Hello CCP,
Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher?
Please and thank you.
~Maximus Stryker
It would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance. e-sports ???? man you are in the wrong game !!! I don't believe I am, how so
Faction Channels for FW Staging
PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4733
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Posted - 2014.04.30 19:53:00 -
[42] - Quote
So, I didn't see the answer, so let's try again!
What are the core mechanics CCP finds so important that they can't give there customers something to do different after 2 KITTEN YEARS?
I mean, we got a king-of-the-hill type game mode already that was skirmish's down-syndrome cousin, but where is the real content now that we have suits?
If CCP is still considering game mechanics that bad still after 2 years, I think a list is in order so we know how many more years this is going to take.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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General John Ripper
21180
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Posted - 2014.04.30 19:55:00 -
[43] - Quote
but it wouldnt be much of a troll if ccp told us their whole plan.
Besides they hate giving out too many details.. all we ever get is soon.
Dust Lotto Challenge - Bump for Free tickets!
:)
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2492
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Posted - 2014.04.30 19:56:00 -
[44] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Your Absolut End wrote:Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me:
"Do ya even lift brah?" I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs
HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
"I tried so hard and got so far.... but in the end it doesnt even matter."
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2231
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Posted - 2014.04.30 19:58:00 -
[45] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag.
I'm really hoping by this you don't mean they should waste another year on balance fixes in the two game modes we have to the exclusion of giving people interesting things to do to keep them playing the game.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES Proficiency V.
180
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:02:00 -
[46] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:jenza aranda wrote:The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. I'm really hoping by this you don't mean they should waste another year on balance fixes in the two game modes we have to the exclusion of giving people interesting things to do to keep them playing the game.
"Capture the Data Node"
"Seek and Destroy"
"Final Defense"
"PvE"
( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3583
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:17:00 -
[47] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far.
I'd love it if you guys would release some lobby shooter variety and focus on the PS4. Thus giving us something more to do while we wait for Dust to become the awesome thing we all hoped it would be.
Level 3 Forum Warrior
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3887
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:35:00 -
[48] - Quote
G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity?
*cough*
That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4736
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:39:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity?
*cough*
That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf. That makes her not an employee the same way just being born in america doesn't make me american.
You're accepting compensation for a job - that is employment down and simple. Lol
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United Caps and Mercs
249
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:42:00 -
[50] - Quote
Haerr wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP* Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale?
How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers...
Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad.
When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems.
Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage.
When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..."
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2233
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:47:00 -
[51] - Quote
Gelhad, you remove mouse support, half the players quit, half of them move to Eagle Eyes, and get autoaim PLUS mouse support. KBM was a fundamental core promise of the game design.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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A recent Recruit
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:07:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity?
*cough*
That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf. But she is restricted by the things she can say because of the Non Disclosure Agreement you have made all the CPMs sign. What is the point in having CPMs who are supposed to be a go-between for the playerbase and DEVS, if you DEVS are restricting them from telling us about the discussions, feedback and ideas you have discussed on the communities behalf. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United Caps and Mercs
249
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:24:00 -
[53] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Gelhad, you remove mouse support, half the players quit, half of them move to Eagle Eyes, and get autoaim PLUS mouse support. KBM was a fundamental core promise of the game design.
Im puzzled then, your saying more then half the player use KB/Mouse and I can still kick their asses ? is that a great news or sad news ? |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United Caps and Mercs
249
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Ho btw I tried the eagle eye and its not really that great, my friend bought it to play BF3 and he thought he would be king, he tossed it away... |
MockHolliday
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
6
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
Many players have taken a "break" from the game? Largely due to stale redundant game play. New modes would be very refreshing...also hard...given player count. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2234
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:57:00 -
[56] - Quote
Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Gelhad, you remove mouse support, half the players quit, half of them move to Eagle Eyes, and get autoaim PLUS mouse support. KBM was a fundamental core promise of the game design. Im puzzled then, your saying more then half the player use KB/Mouse and I can still kick their asses ? is that a great news or sad news ?
KBM has been nerfed to heck. It's good for sniping/long-range, but not much else.
Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Ho btw I tried the eagle eye and its not really that great, my friend bought it to play BF3 and he thought he would be king, he tossed it away...
As near as I can tell, it's just neurotically hard to configure right. If I didn't have to go 0/20 every match I try to play with the configuration on it, I'd do more experimentation on it. ;) I'd heard good things from other DUST players, I figured it'd be an interesting experiment.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
391
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:58:00 -
[57] - Quote
God yes we need new game modes...
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
395
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:00:00 -
[58] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far.
Riiigght. I gotcha.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
266
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:23:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there. Your Absolut End wrote:Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me:
"Do ya even lift brah?" I do. Do you? |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
266
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Haerr wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP* Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale? How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers... Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad. When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems. Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage. When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..." dude i'm telling you the kb/m support for this game is junk at the moment.
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2257
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:36:00 -
[61] - Quote
Operative 2511 Dajli wrote:da GAND wrote:Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote:somebody needs to throw a shoe at one of the ccp guys at fanfest, like that iraqi guy did to george bush and like what someone recently did to hillary clinton, that needs to be a thing, lets get on that Lolz while CCP has pissed most off most of us that have been here since closed and open beta I think it's best to see what CCP has to show what they have for Dust 514 before anyone throws their shows at them at the table on the stage where they answer questions. The way CCP has been going, it's a wonder someone hasn't nerd raged Fanfest with a gun. I'm waiting for that to be a thing. Lol.
that's not even funny.... obviously you are someone who has spent way to much time in his basement.....
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2257
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
Enji Elric wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Haerr wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP* Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale? How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers... Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad. When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems. Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage. When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..." dude i'm telling you the kb/m support for this game is junk at the moment.
ot if youre a sniper....
this game makes me sad....
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:CCP talks more than they do.
And they don't talk a whole lot.
Remember that when Fanfest rolls around.
Correction; Hypefest. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
267
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:27:00 -
[64] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Enji Elric wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Haerr wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP* Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale? How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers... Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad. When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems. Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage. When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..." dude i'm telling you the kb/m support for this game is junk at the moment. ot if youre a sniper.... haven't tried it sniping... im not good at sitting in the same space and hoping............... ODDLY ENOUGH though I love to Fish----- ohhh Fishing has BEER
MCRMI Recruiting
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
518
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:28:00 -
[65] - Quote
Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes
The fact you guys think they are "silly little arena game modes" shows how little connection or knowledge you have of FPS history or what dedicated FPS players will and want to play. |
Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2258
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:51:00 -
[66] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:Enji Elric wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Haerr wrote:jenza aranda wrote:CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP* Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale? How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers... Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad. When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems. Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage. When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..." dude i'm telling you the kb/m support for this game is junk at the moment. ot if youre a sniper.... haven't tried it sniping... im not good at sitting in the same space and hoping............... ODDLY ENOUGH though I love to Fish----- ohhh Fishing has BEER [/quote]
sniping can have beer....
this game makes me sad....
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
4747
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Posted - 2014.05.01 01:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
SoTa PoP wrote:So, I didn't see the answer, so let's try again!
What are the core mechanics CCP finds so important that they can't give there customers something to do different after 2 KITTEN YEARS?
I mean, we got a king-of-the-hill type game mode already that was skirmish's down-syndrome cousin, but where is the real content now that we have suits?
If CCP is still considering game mechanics that bad still after 2 years, I think a list is in order so we know how many more years this is going to take.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9994
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Posted - 2014.05.01 01:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
Shion Typhon wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes The fact you guys think they are "silly little arena game modes" shows how little connection or knowledge you have of FPS history or what dedicated FPS players will and want to play.
But Dust is supposed to be more than the standard historical FPS, taking the more unique and contextually different game modes was what we as players thought Dust was going to be all about all those years ago....
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Jin no kami
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
50
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Posted - 2014.05.01 10:13:00 -
[69] - Quote
Can we get a pve sabotage mode that includes our local or racial influence in some way blowing up mining tools on rivaling factions planets. Or makeup a fake war and drop teams behind enemy lines to destroy objectives with a time limit. Or setup a mode where our government sent us a urgent request with a mission of utmost importance ccp can fill out the rest of that just throwing things out there =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖî |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
530
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Posted - 2014.05.01 11:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity?
*cough*
That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf.
Can't believe Saberwing is being cornered by something like this haha.
Anyone can think of an example of accepting compensation for a task without feeling that the person accomplishing the task is an "employee" of the person providing compensation.
Let's say, in some alternative (better) universe, I am at fanfest instead of work. I'm driving to to event and I see Saberwing waiting for a bus. I offer him a ride and he accepts. We both get to the event and he gives me one of 3 thingsGǪ
A. A verbal complient B. A VIP pass for the event. C. The change in his pocket for gas.
No one in their right mind would think A or B would seal the deal on my career at CCP. In the case of C, well if you think that would make me an employee of Saberwing then I'm currently working for probably 100+ people and I will be audited on my recent taxes.
Don't look for things that aren't there. |
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Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
2245
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:19:00 -
[71] - Quote
SoTa PoP wrote: That makes her not an employee the same way just being born in america doesn't make me american.
You're accepting compensation for a job - that is employment down and simple. Lol
She likely isn't filing a W2 from CCP with her taxes. Howzatt?
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
408
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Posted - 2014.05.01 13:57:00 -
[72] - Quote
Shion Typhon wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes The fact you guys think they are "silly little arena game modes" shows how little connection or knowledge you have of FPS history or what dedicated FPS players will and want to play. I think you're misunderstanding. It's not that we don't know what dedicated FPS players want to play. It's that we just don't care. Dedicated FPS players have new games coming out every quarter that will cater to all the usual interests. DUST doesn't need to join the crowd.
The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
942
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Posted - 2014.05.01 14:40:00 -
[73] - Quote
Goric Rumis wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes The fact you guys think they are "silly little arena game modes" shows how little connection or knowledge you have of FPS history or what dedicated FPS players will and want to play. I think you're misunderstanding. It's not that we don't know what dedicated FPS players want to play. It's that we just don't care. Dedicated FPS players have new games coming out every quarter that will cater to all the usual interests. DUST doesn't need to join the crowd. I agree that what I love about DUST the most is it uniqueness and depth. I am simply suggesting that Arena Battles will ADD to the depth and uniqueness of DUST, not detract from it.
Imagine (if you will) that DUST 514 has:
- Simple turn on and play a public contract to earn some ISK & SP - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for public contracts
- Simple turn on and play for a Faction of your choice - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for a particular Faction
- Simple turn on and play a corporate or alliance contract - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for their corporation or alliance
AND
- Simple turn on and play a few quick "meaningless" games - Simple turn on and play competitive FFA, CTF or KotH - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate competitive tournaments (in game) - Ability for community building and betting on matches and e-sports - Ability to create custom matches that restrict gear (weapons, suits, equipment, vehicles, etc.)
All I am suggesting is that we add content, not take any away.
Faction Channels for FW Staging
PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
413
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:14:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Goric Rumis wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes The fact you guys think they are "silly little arena game modes" shows how little connection or knowledge you have of FPS history or what dedicated FPS players will and want to play. I think you're misunderstanding. It's not that we don't know what dedicated FPS players want to play. It's that we just don't care. Dedicated FPS players have new games coming out every quarter that will cater to all the usual interests. DUST doesn't need to join the crowd. I agree that what I love about DUST the most is it uniqueness and depth. I am simply suggesting that Arena Battles will ADD to the depth and uniqueness of DUST, not detract from it. Imagine (if you will) that DUST 514 has: - Simple turn on and play a public contract to earn some ISK & SP - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for public contracts - Simple turn on and play for a Faction of your choice - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for a particular Faction - Simple turn on and play a corporate or alliance contract - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for their corporation or alliance AND - Simple turn on and play a few quick "meaningless" games - Simple turn on and play competitive FFA, CTF or KotH - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate competitive tournaments (in game) - Ability for community building and betting on matches and e-sports - Ability to create custom matches that restrict gear (weapons, suits, equipment, vehicles, etc.) All I am suggesting is that we add content, not take any away. I'm not against other pick-up-and-play game modes. I just don't think it's useful to appeal to the commonality in the marketplace when trying to justify a game design decision.
Personally, I'd rather have something more interesting than just another CTF, something that actually fits a lore purpose. Maybe more like Payday and less like TF2.
But I agree with Nelo, before adding more arena game modes, I'd rather see more sandbox content. If they build the sandbox right, we may even be able to create our own kinds of arena games. That comes with its own hurdles, of course, but it's not an insurmountable task.
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Orin the Freak
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there. Your Absolut End wrote:Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me:
"Do ya even lift brah?" I do.
Saber, I respect you a lot man. but telling us to wait till the keynote is kinda haphazard, when, for one.. on day one of fanfest, dust was barely mentioned, and not really even talked about. two, most people here (myself included) are not holding our breath (rightfully so) and playing the role of the skeptic.
I think people are getting afraid to put too much hope in fanfest saving this game for them. Truthfully, the only thing that would save this game for me is a remake of every map in the game, making them a lot more beautiful to look at (even ugly can be beautiful), and give them a lot more depth (way more cover/obstacles!)
We need trees... lakes... pine-flooded mountains... etc. the skies in DUST are amazing, it's a drag that all the maps are rocky deserts, covered in various forms of sediment (snow, ash, etc)
but the sad fact is, I am 99% certain none of the maps are changing, and we'll be stuck with the same endless desert atmosphere for the foreseeable future. and that makes me a sad panda. truthfully, the core gameplay is so jumbled and mixed up, that I don't expect balance there, either.
Man... I think I just bummed myself out. all I have to say is, for your sake, and mine, I really hope you're right Saberwing. I hope Fanfest reignites my passion for this game that could be wonderful. |
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there. Your Absolut End wrote:Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me:
"Do ya even lift brah?" I do.
Better stop, that **** takes away from brainpower. Either you have lot's of muscle and little brains, or lots of brains with little muscle!
That's how that works eh??
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Nelo Angel0
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:03:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Goric Rumis wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Before any of these mini gamemodes i'd like to see the MMO aspect of dust evolve more :/ all we're playing right now is a glorified ( if even that ) FPS with bits and pieces of MMO Dust ( hur hur ) sprinkled here and there. Even after the MMO aspect is improved upon there's still the matter of public ( and private ) contracts from EvE players which would be AWESOME.
Then they could add silly little arena game modes The fact you guys think they are "silly little arena game modes" shows how little connection or knowledge you have of FPS history or what dedicated FPS players will and want to play. I think you're misunderstanding. It's not that we don't know what dedicated FPS players want to play. It's that we just don't care. Dedicated FPS players have new games coming out every quarter that will cater to all the usual interests. DUST doesn't need to join the crowd. I agree that what I love about DUST the most is it uniqueness and depth. I am simply suggesting that Arena Battles will ADD to the depth and uniqueness of DUST, not detract from it. Imagine (if you will) that DUST 514 has: - Simple turn on and play a public contract to earn some ISK & SP - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for public contracts - Simple turn on and play for a Faction of your choice - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for a particular Faction - Simple turn on and play a corporate or alliance contract - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate organizing for their corporation or alliance AND - Simple turn on and play a few quick "meaningless" games - Simple turn on and play competitive FFA, CTF or KotH - Ability for players to sit down, invest some time and facilitate competitive tournaments (in game) - Ability for community building and betting on matches and e-sports - Ability to create custom matches that restrict gear (weapons, suits, equipment, vehicles, etc.) All I am suggesting is that we add content, not take any away.
Looking back at what I wrote it seems sort of immature and vague. So i'll explain a little better what I mean:
EvE contracts (public)- EvE players can send contracts to the NPC corps in Dust. In Dust these would show up under the "other contracts" option. The EvE player set certain requirements that must be met like "drain x clones from the enemy" or "mine x amount of resources". But the EvE player would also be risking resources such as deployable CRU, RDVs, and the MCC. They would also be at risk to backstab from TK mercs who only wnt to drain said EvE player of resources. Dust mercs would also be in danger of being OBd by a EvE player even after meeting the contract requirements. ( there's more to this but it's still an incomplete idea )
EvE contracts (private)- Bsically the same thing as public contracts only the contracts are up for grabs only by CEOs of dust coprs. The goals might be the same as well but with the added ability to help EvE players control territories. The rules for this would be that the CEO who takes the contract might not be able to get a more than x full squads going. The restrictions of course would be listed on the contract such as: fill x squad slots up and the other slots might be occupied by privately hired dust players, other corps' members, or public dust players who accpected the contract.
I know the idea isn't perfect but i'm still working on it and the all the things that would be possible if something like EvE contracts was added. It'd really add into the MMO aspect depending on how much freedom dust players have ( oh and no point deductions for TKing in contracts.) |
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CCP Saberwing
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Orin the Freak wrote:Saber, I respect you a lot man. I respect you a lot too, bro.
I've been telling people for a long time on here that what we're showing at Fanfest this year is something we're physically working on - as in, it's currently running and being developed - not "speculative" things for the future. But, development takes time and things don't turn around overnight too. I hope you can understand that and give CCP Rouge and the rest of us time to make this newer vision a reality.
I really can't wait until post-Keynote tomorrow so that I can speak to you guys a little bit more openly. Until then, I'll have to try to chill on my excitement so I can get some sleep.
Seriously, I know you guys feel like promises haven't been delivered in the past. But I have nothing that makes me feel that way about the present and the work being done in Shanghai. Catch you tomorrow.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 00:27:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:Saber, I respect you a lot man. I respect you a lot too, bro. I've been telling people for a long time on here that what we're showing at Fanfest this year is something we're physically working on - as in, it's currently running and being developed - not "speculative" things for the future. But, development takes time and things don't turn around overnight too. I hope you can understand that and give CCP Rouge and the rest of us time to make this newer vision a reality. I really can't wait until post-Keynote tomorrow so that I can speak to you guys a little bit more openly. Until then, I'll have to try to chill on my excitement so I can get some sleep. Seriously, I know you guys feel like promises haven't been delivered in the past. But I have nothing that makes me feel that way about the present and the work being done in Shanghai. Catch you tomorrow.
theres 3 types of people who visit these forums. I belong to the group commonly referred to as "fanbois", but the reality of the situation is, New Eden is my home. i have had adventures to insane to be real, and plan on many more in the future. your core egghead or dust bunny isnt here for your promises, features, or cool shiny concepts, were here because we've become something akin to a family with one another in this harsh universe, and were here to stay.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 00:39:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:Saber, I respect you a lot man. I respect you a lot too, bro. I've been telling people for a long time on here that what we're showing at Fanfest this year is something we're physically working on - as in, it's currently running and being developed - not "speculative" things for the future. But, development takes time and things don't turn around overnight too. I hope you can understand that and give CCP Rouge and the rest of us time to make this newer vision a reality. I really can't wait until post-Keynote tomorrow so that I can speak to you guys a little bit more openly. Until then, I'll have to try to chill on my excitement so I can get some sleep. Seriously, I know you guys feel like promises haven't been delivered in the past. But I have nothing that makes me feel that way about the present and the work being done in Shanghai. Catch you tomorrow. awesome.
As much as it may seem I am whining about Battle Arenas (because I think it would be great for the game) I do enjoy DUST and the effort you all put in. Just keep progressing forward and things will get better.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's presentations.
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