DUST Search - Question at Fanfest

Gelhad Thremyr wrote:

Haerr wrote:

jenza aranda wrote:

CCP s currently working on the core concepts...*SNIP*

Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale?

How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers...

Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad.

When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems.

Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage.

When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..."

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Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 852	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:54:00 - [31] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. This is a very low priority feature and should probably stay that way for the forseeable future. I respectfully and wholeheartedly could not disagree with you more. A) This is a concept that makes dust exciting. B) This would literally add so much content in a single swoop, it could literally be the biggest content dump in a single release. The sheer variety and customization that that this could produce would be enormous and could very much liven up the game. I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can think this would not be absolutely great for the the game and especially the community that supports it. I hope the CPM and CCP will reconsider the importance of this concept. Thank you. ~Max The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. For fucks sake, hasn't that been the GOAL all along for a year now? Tanks - Balancing Turrets
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5084	Posted - 2014.04.30 12:57:00 - [32] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me: Hello CCP, Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher? Please and thank you. ~Maximus Stryker It would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Those are available in Call of Duty and Battlefield. If you want those modes, stop trying to ruin Dust and go back to those two games. Are you ******* serious? Did you even read the post? "Gladiator", as they called the system, was thuroughly explained AND vetted in lore as the advent of clone soldiers allowing for "bloodsport" in the form of televised arena matches which are gambled on. This is a completely separate system from the Instant Battle contracts we would have right now, allowing for a different kind of gameplay to be added to the systems we already have. It's basically providing players with more options without detracting in ANY way from the current experience. Can you just try to not be that annoying for once? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 935	Posted - 2014.04.30 14:25:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: KILLER 20965 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far. Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 438	Posted - 2014.04.30 14:34:00 - [34] - Quote Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me: "Do ya even lift brah?" It will be much apreciated by myself and athe audience. Thanks for your attention. another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3878	Posted - 2014.04.30 15:14:00 - [35] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there. Your Absolut End wrote: Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me: "Do ya even lift brah?" I do. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 432	Posted - 2014.04.30 15:23:00 - [36] - Quote ... Skirmish 1.0 returns? There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 190	Posted - 2014.04.30 15:24:00 - [37] - Quote Why are people complaining so much? Excuse me whilst I use the PS Vita neocon ap to work on my fittings... Um Ok then maybe I'll use the EVE mobile ap that was "going to be your hands by next fanfest ... Um Fine, I'll just go chill out in the 10 year vet station in EVE that was also meant to be out by fanfest ... Oh crap. The truth is CCPs word is ****. They don't deliver on their promises. The real shame is that there is no excitement for me when they announce stuff, as I don't have the faith that they will deliver it. It would be nice to get excited about something CCP announces again.
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 936	Posted - 2014.04.30 16:20:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there. Did anyone else go when they read this? *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2014.04.30 16:40:00 - [39] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me: Hello CCP, Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher? Please and thank you. ~Maximus Stryker It would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. e-sports ???? man you are in the wrong game !!! This will help the game
G Torq ALTA B2O 772	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:02:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: KILLER 20965 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far. Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity? cough Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE

Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 937	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:28:00 - [41] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Can a Fanfest attendee please ask this question for me: Hello CCP, Arena Battles, which include game modes like Free-For-All, Capture The Flag and King of the Hill, have been talked about since the beginning. And in relation to this, e-sports and in game betting. So my question is first, how high is this on the priority list and second, can you make it higher? Please and thank you. ~Maximus Stryker It would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. e-sports ???? man you are in the wrong game !!! I don't believe I am, how so *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4733	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:53:00 - [42] - Quote So, I didn't see the answer, so let's try again! What are the core mechanics CCP finds so important that they can't give there customers something to do different after 2 KITTEN YEARS? I mean, we got a king-of-the-hill type game mode already that was skirmish's down-syndrome cousin, but where is the real content now that we have suits? If CCP is still considering game mechanics that bad still after 2 years, I think a list is in order so we know how many more years this is going to take. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
General John Ripper 21180	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:55:00 - [43] - Quote but it wouldnt be much of a troll if ccp told us their whole plan. Besides they hate giving out too many details.. all we ever get is soon. Dust Lotto Challenge - Bump for Free tickets! :)
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2492	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:56:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me: "Do ya even lift brah?" I do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes. "I tried so hard and got so far.... but in the end it doesnt even matter."
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2231	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:58:00 - [45] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. I'm really hoping by this you don't mean they should waste another year on balance fixes in the two game modes we have to the exclusion of giving people interesting things to do to keep them playing the game. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 180	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:02:00 - [46] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: jenza aranda wrote: The point is that they want to get the core gameplay mechanics down before they start adding superficial things like capture the flag. I'm really hoping by this you don't mean they should waste another year on balance fixes in the two game modes we have to the exclusion of giving people interesting things to do to keep them playing the game. "Capture the Data Node" "Seek and Destroy" "Final Defense" "PvE" ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3583	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:17:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: KILLER 20965 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far. I'd love it if you guys would release some lobby shooter variety and focus on the PS4. Thus giving us something more to do while we wait for Dust to become the awesome thing we all hoped it would be. Level 3 Forum Warrior

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3887	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:35:00 - [48] - Quote G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity? cough That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4736	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:39:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity? cough That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf. That makes her not an employee the same way just being born in america doesn't make me american. You're accepting compensation for a job - that is employment down and simple. Lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United Caps and Mercs 249	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:42:00 - [50] - Quote Haerr wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts...SNIP Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale? How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers... Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad. When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems. Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage. When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..."

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2233	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:47:00 - [51] - Quote Gelhad, you remove mouse support, half the players quit, half of them move to Eagle Eyes, and get autoaim PLUS mouse support. KBM was a fundamental core promise of the game design. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
A recent Recruit Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:07:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: G Torq wrote: Is she involved in an activity in coordination with CCP Games, that CCP Games is benefiting from? Is she receiving remuneration (incl. FanFest tickets/flight/hotel) due to this activity? cough That does not make her a CCP employee, and she certainly isn't obligated to say anything on our behalf. But she is restricted by the things she can say because of the Non Disclosure Agreement you have made all the CPMs sign. What is the point in having CPMs who are supposed to be a go-between for the playerbase and DEVS, if you DEVS are restricting them from telling us about the discussions, feedback and ideas you have discussed on the communities behalf.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United Caps and Mercs 249	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:24:00 - [53] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Gelhad, you remove mouse support, half the players quit, half of them move to Eagle Eyes, and get autoaim PLUS mouse support. KBM was a fundamental core promise of the game design. Im puzzled then, your saying more then half the player use KB/Mouse and I can still kick their asses ? is that a great news or sad news ?
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United Caps and Mercs 249	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:26:00 - [54] - Quote Ho btw I tried the eagle eye and its not really that great, my friend bought it to play BF3 and he thought he would be king, he tossed it away...
MockHolliday Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 6	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:49:00 - [55] - Quote Many players have taken a "break" from the game? Largely due to stale redundant game play. New modes would be very refreshing...also hard...given player count.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2234	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:57:00 - [56] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Gelhad, you remove mouse support, half the players quit, half of them move to Eagle Eyes, and get autoaim PLUS mouse support. KBM was a fundamental core promise of the game design. Im puzzled then, your saying more then half the player use KB/Mouse and I can still kick their asses ? is that a great news or sad news ? KBM has been nerfed to heck. It's good for sniping/long-range, but not much else. Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Ho btw I tried the eagle eye and its not really that great, my friend bought it to play BF3 and he thought he would be king, he tossed it away... As near as I can tell, it's just neurotically hard to configure right. If I didn't have to go 0/20 every match I try to play with the configuration on it, I'd do more experimentation on it. ;) I'd heard good things from other DUST players, I figured it'd be an interesting experiment. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 391	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:58:00 - [57] - Quote God yes we need new game modes... Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 395	Posted - 2014.04.30 22:00:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: KILLER 20965 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts that first made dust seem exciting. I don't trust people that work for CCP, nothing against you personally. CCP has had to many empty promises. Just to clear this up - Jenza does not "work for" CCP and we're certainly not twisting her arm to reply to these threads. She writes of her own volition and I agree with everything she's written here so far. Riiigght. I gotcha. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 266	Posted - 2014.04.30 22:23:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Did anyone else go when they read this? Really disappointing to me as I feel this would help this game and the community so much. I recommend you watch the DUST Keynote on Friday before jumping to any conclusions as there should be some clarification for you there. Your Absolut End wrote: Could somebody at fanfest stand up and ask this question for me: "Do ya even lift brah?" I do. Do you?
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 266	Posted - 2014.04.30 22:32:00 - [60] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Haerr wrote: jenza aranda wrote: CCP s currently working on the core concepts...SNIP Does this involve core fps mechanics? You know such as remaping keys and a non arbitrary mouse sensitivity scale? How about removing the ******* mouse support already, it really creates a disparity in equipment, notwithstanding the people that use hacked keyboard that they can register macros to crouch constantly and respawn to farm ISK on oceanic servers... Do you realise how much stupid it is to dedicate resources to support both hardware. KB mouse is unfair atm until they replicate the logarithmic input curve the analog stick everybody uses with a standard pad. When a KB user press a key the input is "1", not a curve over 0.250ms. This makes it so that scout with 11m sec. run movement all have unfair advantages. Its like CCP is actively searching for more problems not fixing those primary things before fixing unbalance that is born with these hardware problems. Its a fact that a mouse is more precise than the analog stick, couple that with the combat rifle and again, you get an unfair advantage. When you point it out, those people using those advantage will tell you to "get gud..." dude i'm telling you the kb/m support for this game is junk at the moment.



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