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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:05:00 -
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You guys are keeping embarassingly quiet about the bug fixes.
This is the last one:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=154428&find=unread
Quote:
* Fix to a bug where cloak would fail after switching to a duplicate fitting at a supply depot while cloaked.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1431
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:12:00 -
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Would LOVE some info concerning a fix (hopefully soon) for my Amarr assault and every other suit that is "bugged".
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2244
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:14:00 -
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Please fix the bonus bug. Over two weeks has passed without a fix. |
castba
Penguin's March
379
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:24:00 -
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Guessing it will be left for the new build.
Could only be 3 weeks away... |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
1121
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:30:00 -
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This is dust.
You're bugs will never be fixed.
And the lucky fixes that do happen, are soon to be replaced.
The replaced thing is typical for anything that's constantly updated. So I won't say that THAT makes ccp look bad. Its just that not fixing those bugs for months does make them look bad. The dev team is a small team though....and they do have to work on other stuff too, like the p2p market and pve....but if they ain't working on the big stuff while they haven't fixed the bugs well...
Then they are bad and should feel bad.
Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1589
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:33:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Would LOVE some info concerning a fix (hopefully soon) for my Amarr assault and every other suit that is "bugged".
yeah
on the other hand replaying fallout 3 helps with the wait
and if no fixes then a new playstation 4 and some new playstation 4 games will fix everything thats buggy about dust 514 .
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
Planetside 2 in June on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Nelo Angel0
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:59:00 -
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Last time I checked for an update on FG phantom shot bug CCP saberwing, I think, said they were "aware" of the bug.... that was weeks ago  |
MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:00:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Would LOVE some info concerning a fix (hopefully soon) for my Amarr assault and every other suit that is "bugged".
The suit isn't 'bugged', passive skills just aren't loading properly - it likely has something to do with the changes that they made to logi's.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1433
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:06:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Would LOVE some info concerning a fix (hopefully soon) for my Amarr assault and every other suit that is "bugged". The suit isn't 'bugged', passive skills just aren't loading properly - it likely has something to do with the changes that they made to logi's.
Yeah. That.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:25:00 -
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Yes, the bonus bug is annoying. Please fix pl0x! |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3707
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:25:00 -
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We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1944
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:41:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
those are both caused by the same "no passives active on spawn" bug...
why list them as two seperate bugs?
I put Kinetic Catalyzers on EVERYTHING
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2182
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:43:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. those are both caused by the same "no passives active on spawn" bug... why list them as two seperate bugs?
I'm pretty sure it also effects all weapons. Did certainly effect my MagSec to some degree.
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3468
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:46:00 -
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Effects reload speed on commando suit as well as heat generation on amarr assaults..
it's all the same thing. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
2038
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:02:00 -
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i don't think CCP understands. yyou spawn in with less shields, and no bonuses are applied because your CORE SKILLS aren't applying, meaning you don't get any bonuses from anything you skilled into.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Card Drunook
DoC Deck of Contractors
97
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:28:00 -
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I normally would pass something like this up, but I'm tired and in a mood that just couldn't let that slide.
You seriously think that CCP who just told you they are QA testing a fix for the problem, who have access to the direct code involved and all the data tracking they have know LESS about what is causing the glitch than you do?
Unless you've done some serious code hacking and can give them data they don't have all your comment is accomplishing is being rude to someone people who just told you they are working on fixing the problem. |
Lordsmash
Dead Man's Game
19
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:32:00 -
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The bug explained:
None of your skills which give you any kind of bonus will actually apply right away when you spawn. They can be delayed more than a few seconds. Skills which give fitting bonuses (Eg. xyz% CPU reduction) are not affected because they don't actually do anything when playing the same way other skills do. Basically, it's as if you don't spawn with any skills at all. Modules/equipment you fit are not affected, unless there is a bonus which increases the effectiveness of the module.
Examples:
Shield and armour upgrade skills not applying results in some of your health missing.
Amarr assault heat generation/scrambler rifle cooldown not applying results in your scrambler rifle blowing up in your face as quickly as if you didn't have either bonuses.
You don't get the extra health from shield/armour plates you equip, (Should be 2% per level) which also results in missing health.
(Not sure on this one:) Nanohives dropped by a caldari logistics act like normal ones, instead of containing more nanites/healing faster.
Kick reduction not applying on weapons makes the Magsec SMG jump around everywhere.
Proficiency skills not applying results in less damage to shield/armour.
Not sure how correct I am, but I hope it helps. |
castba
Penguin's March
379
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:33:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i don't think CCP understands. yyou spawn in with less shields, and no bonuses are applied because your CORE SKILLS aren't applying, meaning you don't get any bonuses from anything you skilled into.
QFT
Quite noticeable when skills load in during hack (Gal scout, systems hacking 4).
Not related to suit at all.
Also, I get the forge misfire even after skills have loaded. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2248
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:44:00 -
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Why is only the forge firing thing and HP being looked at? It doesnt make sense. The problem seem to be rooted deep in the code, and should not be 'worked around'. |
Synther Bix
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
153
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:45:00 -
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You cant win against the bugs.
Dust 514 is the largest bug hunt of all time. CCP put all the effort into designing and implementing bugs and then we the players must find them.
To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
Top man in charge of Dust2Dust ~--~ Amarr standings - 6
one must imagine sisyphus happy
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straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
331
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:49:00 -
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Synther Bix wrote:You cant win against the bugs.
Dust 514 is the largest bug hunt of all time. CCP put all the effort into designing and implementing bugs and then we the players must find them.
To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
We must become the bug.
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ishtellian
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
43
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Posted - 2014.04.16 10:27:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Synther Bix wrote:You cant win against the bugs.
Dust 514 is the largest bug hunt of all time. CCP put all the effort into designing and implementing bugs and then we the players must find them.
To fight the bug, we must understand the bug. We must become the bug.
We are the bug.
My Heavy Never Dies.
Logibro In training.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3376
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Posted - 2014.04.16 10:38:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
So you are still ignoring the railgun which has had numerous bugs since 1.0 |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2535
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:01:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. So you are still ignoring the railgun which has had numerous bugs since 1.0
Ignoring means they don't want to know what the problem is!
They are aware ofmthe problem, they just aren't going to fix it.
In all seriousness Im pretty sure they said the railgun bugs weren't repeatable under their testing, which probably means its you.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
467
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:22:00 -
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Card Drunook wrote:I normally would pass something like this up, but I'm tired and in a mood that just couldn't let that slide.
You seriously think that CCP who just told you they are QA testing a fix for the problem, who have access to the direct code involved and all the data tracking they have know LESS about what is causing the glitch than you do?
Unless you've done some serious code hacking and can give them data they don't have all your comment is accomplishing is being rude to some people who just told you they are working on fixing the problem.
Considering the fact that CCP programmers caused the bug in the first place (a bug which didn't exist during 1.7 I might add), it's pretty validated to question how well they understand the code they're tampering with. Add the fact that it's glaringly obvious that they don't do much in the way of playtesting themselves but instead throws out patches with huge changes and expect the community to do all the testing for them (which we don't get paid for I also might add), it wouldn't be the first time an average player spots a glitch, bug or programming inconsistency that CCP developers missed completely.
Programming and "cracking code" nowadays consist of huge amounts of copy/paste:ing. Often with lines that the programmer himself doesn't fully understand. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3376
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:44:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. So you are still ignoring the railgun which has had numerous bugs since 1.0 Ignoring means they don't want to know what the problem is! They are aware ofmthe problem, they just aren't going to fix it. In all seriousness Im pretty sure they said the railgun bugs weren't repeatable under their testing, which probably means its you.
Source?
But your talking BS since it happens to alot of players who use the railgun |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1870
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:45:00 -
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No, they add other bug.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
\o/ summon me
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
Lokun Listamenn
430
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:55:00 -
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Don't even get me started on the proximity mines. 
Two peas in a bucket....
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
763
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:00:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. those are both caused by the same "no passives active on spawn" bug... why list them as two seperate bugs?
What if they're two separate bugs? Oh wait, apologies, you seem to already know the cause.
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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The Attorney General
2574
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Posted - 2014.04.16 14:45:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
2 points:
First, you should really be aware of what the bugs are before you start making posts like that. People who actually know about the game can clearly see that you have never fired it up.
Second, don't you dare use the term QA with anything that your studio is putting out. You don't do QA, and have never done it, which is why we get such pathetic bugs in each patch.
I'm glad you are finally fixing it, but don't insult those of us who can actually think and pretend like you guys even bother to check things before you put them out.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1285
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:12:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:2 points:
First, you should really be aware of what the bugs are before you start making posts like that. People who actually know about the game can clearly see that you have never fired it up.
Second, don't you dare use the term QA with anything that your studio is putting out. You don't do QA, and have never done it, which is why we get such pathetic bugs in each patch.
I'm glad you are finally fixing it, but don't insult those of us who can actually think and pretend like you guys even bother to check things before you put them out.
One point...
If you attack the devs when they release information like this, their most likely response it to stop releasing information.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1765
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:15:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:
First, you should really be aware of what the bugs are before you start making posts like that. People who actually know about the game can clearly see that you have never fired it up.
Second, don't you dare use the term QA with anything that your studio is putting out. You don't do QA, and have never done it, which is why we get such pathetic bugs in each patch.
I'm glad you are finally fixing it, but don't insult those of us who can actually think and pretend like you guys even bother to check things before you put them out.
Way to be a royal douche canoe when all he did was tell us a hotfix was coming next week. When newer players wonder why CCP doesn't talk to us often I can refer them to this post.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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danie sous
DUST BRASIL S.A
Proficiency V.
1
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:46:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
Scout suit slots are bugged again. |
Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
779
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:55:00 -
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danie sous wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. Scout suit slots are bugged again.
Don't worry. I'm sure it's in QA now ;)
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3409
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:57:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
I've thought it is due to the changes to equipment. Changing suits causes the bonus to deployed equipment to go away. I figured there was some "check" that was happening to see if you had any equipment out there that needed a nerf hammer.
Am I right?
Level 3 Forum Warrior
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4917
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:39:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. those are both caused by the same "no passives active on spawn" bug... why list them as two seperate bugs?
To make you think they're doing allot of work 
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Taurion Bruni
D3ATH CARD
219
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:42:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
but what of the turret bugs, like where the turret will jam, not finish reload, and the ADS without fire rate bonus, or fire half blanks?
Pilot // Scout
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4917
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:The Attorney General wrote:
First, you should really be aware of what the bugs are before you start making posts like that. People who actually know about the game can clearly see that you have never fired it up.
Second, don't you dare use the term QA with anything that your studio is putting out. You don't do QA, and have never done it, which is why we get such pathetic bugs in each patch.
I'm glad you are finally fixing it, but don't insult those of us who can actually think and pretend like you guys even bother to check things before you put them out.
Way to be a royal douche canoe when all he did was tell us a hotfix was coming next week. When newer players wonder why CCP doesn't talk to us often I can refer them to this post.
AG has valid points though. CCP apologists like you let them get away with murder. So continue.
Just to reiterate what AG said, we're perpetual beta testers. CCP has never, EVER released an update without adding more bugs, and breaking something. People pointing that out are right.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
296
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:58:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. 2 points: First, you should really be aware of what the bugs are before you start making posts like that. People who actually know about the game can clearly see that you have never fired it up. Second, don't you dare use the term QA with anything that your studio is putting out. You don't do QA, and have never done it, which is why we get such pathetic bugs in each patch. I'm glad you are finally fixing it, but don't insult those of us who can actually think and pretend like you guys even bother to check things before you put them out.
Stomps cries, hurling insults. All uppity and indignant.
All the while mashing the win button you gave him.
This guy is a serious vagina tanker.
Bang?
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mollerz
3267
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:04:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:danie sous wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. Scout suit slots are bugged again. Don't worry. I'm sure it's in QA now ;)
Again even!
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1771
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:21:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:AG has valid points though. CCP apologists like you let them get away with murder. So continue
I never made a comment, one way or another, on how CCP handles game development, bugs in patches, or anything of the sort. I said that he was being douche to someone that was passing along information. Some good news, actually.
You can be upset about a game's state. In fact, I'm not exactly happy with Dust right now myself. But we can be adults about it.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:42:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week. those are both caused by the same "no passives active on spawn" bug... why list them as two seperate bugs?
An outside observer can in no way determine what is causing a bug. As someone who codes IRL, bugs are very often surprising. Their unexpected nature is why they happen in the first place. You have a suspicion, a place to start looking, but don't presume to know what is causing the bug.
As for why to list them as separate bugs, its because they are not the same symptom. When you create bug reports, you are reporting symptoms in the final product, not specific problems in the code. Sometimes you might have multiple related bugs, that can be all fixed with a single change(as you are suggesting here). Other times, you might have multiple related bugs, that you resolve with multiple fixes, each tailored to the specific bug (so a fix for each place not getting the skills).
After the fixes are in, you still want the bugs as multiple items for testing purposes. You want QA to specifically test the health / shields, and then you want them to specifically test forge guns, to make sure both work. What you don't want is for one to get tested, the fix declared done, and the other one to not actually be fixed.
EVE - Victor Maximus
DUST - Azri Sarum
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Yeeeuuuupppp
The Lionheart Coalition
245
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:15:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been working on a few fixes. The 2 ones I've seen recent updates for are:
- Forge guns not firing properly
- Spawning in with reduced Shields / Armor
We're QAing these and hope to have a fix for these go out next week.
Just the reduced Armor/shields or the whole spawning in without bonus applying for everything? I'd like to spam the trigger of my SCR without overheating after ~19 shots
CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9"
Mic status: Muted
Feel the wrath of my troll
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2287
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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:25:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:What you don't want is for one to get tested, the fix declared done, and the other one to not actually be fixed.
You are completely right. But, if we know CCP, they will add a workaround for two bugs, not solve the real issue, and only test the reported bugs. Then announce that it is fixed.
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