Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.


Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.



They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff.

Sniper has the double problem of being both a disliked playstyle from the rest of the player base and a pretty poor one in terms of raw viability. Thale snipers still hurt me, and I've seen good scout snipers use the cloak to hit and re-locate before I can track them down. So, options are available.

Really, you need a scout suit that caters to sniping, rather than buffing the weapon itself. Lest you run the risk of making it potent for any old fool. For me, if it's a play style, it needs a suit, not a weapon or equipment piece,to define it and make it work.

[quote=Sir Dukey]I can't run scout every match.

I do think snipers are underrated. But you think too much of yourself. Get 3 kills as a sniper and claiming you've saved the match? Dream on!

Before just making Sniper Rifles more lethal, I'd suggest improving their ability to support a squad, as I understand that to be the central design goal behind Dust. Here's a suggestion for that.

As for the redline issues, I have yet to see a viable argument against simply removing any WP gained from actions taken in the redline.

2 things that no one has mentioned.

a) As part of the light weapon parity, why where Minmatar Precision Rifles NOT added (Light Weapon/Sniper Rifle - Explosive kinetic with bipod and over the horizon range heavy barrel) Would require prone, and 2 lugg bolt action, 5 magnum rounds.

b) CPM Kane Spero is right now activly seeking to halve the sniper rifle range. This can not be allowed to occur, as seen here previous to this, not a single mention of range is too far... but Kane cut the rail turret range, meaning FG can out gun a rail tank at 300 meters and not even be seen by the tanker, and he is going to do the exact same to the sniper rifle with devastating effect, nerfing all sniper rifles, characters, tactical play styles, the whole lot out the window. It's happening.

I do think snipers are underrated. But you think too much of yourself. Get 3 kills as a sniper and claiming you've saved the match? Dream on!

So you're saying that Sniper Rifles are OK, because they can OHK half of the suits on the field, when:
- players have Proficiency 5
- use the most powerful proto sniper rifle available (also the one without zoom)
- use a proto Calmando dropsuit
- and slap on proto damage modifiers.

And in the mean time you say it's OK that snipers can't OHK bricked mercs, because they invested SP and give up mobility? I think the sniper is way worse of, as you'll invest about 9 million SP to get the sniper suit you described, while the investment hardly benefits any other roles.