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General John Ripper 20060	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote I know there is no market yet, but this is just a question to forum mercs. I think you should be able to sell boosters for isk. Once you reach 30-40m sp there is hardly anymore reason to buy boosters or spend $$ on this game. The games vets are all hitting this point by now. Allowing mercs to be able to sell aurum gear and boosters would give them another reason to spend $$ on this game. This will also allow the younger players without jobs to have a chance to save up isk for a booster and use it for double or triple sp events. Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed. 20k bugs fixed. :)
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3433	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:01:00 - [2] - Quote Boosters are going to be the plex of Dust 514 Sir Hadah for CPM
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4820	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:02:00 - [3] - Quote Seems legit. It'd be like eve players who buy plex to sell for isk. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1790	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:03:00 - [4] - Quote Benefits all parties in DUST. Makes the whole pay to win thing come back into the conversation though. but players unable to invest money because of tight financial situations can Use what they have earned playing the game(ISK) And players with expendable income and not enough time to grind ISK can purchase a booster from CCP to sell to someone that wouldn't normally have a chance to get one. Allowing for more Booster sales for CCP in general.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 652	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:03:00 - [5] - Quote yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1154	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:09:00 - [6] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless Not really. FW would be a way for you to save ISK rather than buying it from a player. Or you could sell the FW gear. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 652	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:13:00 - [7] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless Not really. FW would be a way for you to save ISK rather than buying it from a player. Or you could sell the FW gear. why would i play fw if its more effective to just run a pub and by aurum gear. i don't know if there will be enough people buying aurum gear for market sales to completely screw fw market sales., but i do know that it will most diffidently hurt them. it would also directly overstep an entire game modes way of making isk It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 467	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:18:00 - [8] - Quote Yes. Eve players can buy and sell PLEX for isk. So we should be able to buy and sell aurum boosters for isk if we want to.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1155	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:19:00 - [9] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless Not really. FW would be a way for you to save ISK rather than buying it from a player. Or you could sell the FW gear. why would i play fw if its more effective to just run a pub and by aurum gear. i don't know if there will be enough people buying aurum gear for market sales to completely screw fw market sales., but i do know that it will most diffidently hurt them. it would also directly overstep an entire game modes way of making isk Depends on the prices, doesn't it? If a basic AUR suit is 30k or more, you may well be better off running FW. If you can sell FW gear, you can run it to get equipment to sell. It is basic economics. If FW gear can be sold cheaper and be more profitable because of the volume (Welcome to Walmart) it can become a better way to make money to run FW rather than Ambush/Domination. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1020	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:20:00 - [10] - Quote Can't see why not, player 1 buys a booster with and sells that to player 2 for X amount of ISK, much like PLEX in EVE As for AUR gear, why not? People are going to ask high ISK prices for those things since they paid money to get the AUR to get those suits. "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro -2176440-

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9507	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:22:00 - [11] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless Not really. FW would be a way for you to save ISK rather than buying it from a player. Or you could sell the FW gear. Only if FW gear is made unique enough to bother over. AKA New Skins for suits and weapons and bonuses better suited to the racial groups....or perhaps bearing slight 1-2% bonuses for other game aspects that makes earning and buying them worth. For example I have 50,000+ loyalty points......how much ISK should that translate into. 250K LP for a Faction Battleship which could go for upwards of 700,000,000..... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 467	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:22:00 - [12] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless No it wouldn't. There are certain FW dropsuits, weapons, modules and equipment that have no aurum counterparts that are as good. There are no aurum or isk counterparts for the Amarr prototype viziam uplink for example. No counterpart for the caldari state nanite injector (that revives 100 % armor) etc. So there would still be plenty of incentive to play FW (the uplinks are a must have in PC for example)
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2843	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:24:00 - [13] - Quote im ok with boosters being sold for isk, i think its a nice legal way for people to make some cash and stop the RTM market before it starts in dust copying the plex system from EvE seems like a smart move imo "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1285	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:26:00 - [14] - Quote Providing a legitimate in-game channel for real money trading is one of the better ways of combating illicit RMT. So either selling Aurum items for ISK, or directly selling Aurum for ISK, is likely to be somewhere in the mix I'd say. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 779	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:32:00 - [15] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless Not really. FW would be a way for you to save ISK rather than buying it from a player. Or you could sell the FW gear. why would i play fw if its more effective to just run a pub and by aurum gear. i don't know if there will be enough people buying aurum gear for market sales to completely screw fw market sales., but i do know that it will most diffidently hurt them. it would also directly overstep an entire game modes way of making isk Which is why they need to change faction gear in DUST to be like faction gear in EVE, where's it's just plain better, but more expensive. Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7947	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:35:00 - [16] - Quote As a dedicated Eve Online player who has been playing since 2008 and has understood New Eden economics on a lot of levels, I can say that it's a safe bet that Boosters should be allowed to be traded for ISK. In that, that will actually benefit players who have a lot of ISK but no cash and also players who have a lot of cash but don't want to grind too much for ISK. The best part about this idea is that ISK is not really generated at all in this process. ISK will only be transferred from one player to another with some loss of ISK due to broker fees or taxes. PLEX is already a prime example of this in Eve Online and so far the market for it is booming and it gives Eve Online players alternative means to extend their game time if they are not willing to pay cash. Conclusion: Let it happen, CCP. Boosters traded between players for ISK will be a good thing. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1259	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:35:00 - [17] - Quote Why shouldn't it? *Assassination is my thing.*
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 652	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:38:00 - [18] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: yes but not aurum dropsuits, that would make fw useless Not really. FW would be a way for you to save ISK rather than buying it from a player. Or you could sell the FW gear. why would i play fw if its more effective to just run a pub and by aurum gear. i don't know if there will be enough people buying aurum gear for market sales to completely screw fw market sales., but i do know that it will most diffidently hurt them. it would also directly overstep an entire game modes way of making isk Which is why they need to change faction gear in DUST to be like faction gear in EVE, where's it's just plain better, but more expensive. id love that, but i doubt it would happen It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7948	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:40:00 - [19] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Providing a legitimate in-game channel for real money trading is one of the better ways of combating illicit RMT. So either selling Aurum items for ISK, or directly selling Aurum for ISK, is likely to be somewhere in the mix I'd say. This is also another benefit to this idea. PLEX in Eve Online has been effective in combating illegal RMT operations since now Eve players won't need to pay cash to a third party for ISK. CCP provides that instead via the player-to-player market. It's amazing how a free-market system works. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 769	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:44:00 - [20] - Quote As long as someone has some 30 day passive Omegas to sell me, I say yes. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama

Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1937	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:45:00 - [21] - Quote in my opinion anything that we can buy or have in our mercs possession should be fair game for the market. I know many dustbros hate comparisons to eve, but anything you can get there can be traded freely and this game takes place in that universe and will be fully integrated into eve eventually if ccp stays true it its vision for these 2 games. the item in eve that stands out the most to me to compare to boosters is plex which can freely be traded and stolen from players in eve. I don't see why boosters should be treated differently, or for that matter any other item including bpo's. this game makes me sad....
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7948	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:57:00 - [22] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: in my opinion anything that we can buy or have in our mercs possession should be fair game for the market. I know many dustbros hate comparisons to eve, but anything you can get there can be traded freely and this game takes place in that universe and will be fully integrated into eve eventually if ccp stays true it its vision for these 2 games. the item in eve that stands out the most to me to compare to boosters is plex which can freely be traded and stolen from players in eve. I don't see why boosters should be treated differently, or for that matter any other item including bpo's. Exactly. There are super rare items in Eve that you can't get anywhere unless you know someone and yet they are freely traded in the market. Examples: Sansha Nation Revenant Super Carrier. There are only 2 existing in the market. There use to be a third, until... http://broskinorth.derzorn.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=29265 According to Forbes.com, the estimated real-world value of the ship loss was $9,000 fully fitted. Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/07/09/eve-online-player-loses-a-spaceship-worth-approximately-9000/ Since now there are only 2 left in the market, their value has increased. Yet this ship is still freely tradable if you happen to have enough ISK and know the only two players in the game who happen to own one. Then there are the Tech 2 BPOs that exist in Eve Online. Those are still freely traded if you know who owns one. These BPOs are totally ultra rare since CCP no longer gives them out. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1176	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:25:00 - [23] - Quote How much ISK would a Complex Overdrive(low slot) cost? Also, who has 50+ of these? How much ISK would a Cala's SMG be worth? How about Standard FW gear? These things would be comparable to Aur gear, but would serve little purpose other than a type of 'militia' grade weapon for things CCP is too lazy to make a variant for. General John Ripper is my 2nd best friend!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2941	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:52:00 - [24] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I know there is no market yet, but this is just a question to forum mercs. I think you should be able to sell boosters for isk. Once you reach 30-40m sp there is hardly anymore reason to buy boosters or spend $$ on this game. The games vets are all hitting this point by now. Allowing mercs to be able to sell aurum gear and boosters would give them another reason to spend $$ on this game. This will also allow the younger players without jobs to have a chance to save up isk for a booster and use it for double or triple sp events. Yes. Someone paid for them. That is all CCP should care about. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 18	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:56:00 - [25] - Quote +1 Totally agree with this. But we would need a good pricing on them. Yes I can see them becoming the PLEX of Dust, however I wouldn't want to pay 750 million isk (current average price on a PLEX) for a booster. Come Join the War
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2778	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:58:00 - [26] - Quote I dont see a issue with that. benefits CCP and the players who have alot of ISK and want to spend it on something. And the ISK thats beeing generated in PC gets contributed among the community. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3939	Posted - 2014.04.15 22:43:00 - [27] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I know there is no market yet, but this is just a question to forum mercs. I think you should be able to sell boosters for isk. Once you reach 30-40m sp there is hardly anymore reason to buy boosters or spend $$ on this game. The games vets are all hitting this point by now. Allowing mercs to be able to sell aurum gear and boosters would give them another reason to spend $$ on this game. This will also allow the younger players without jobs to have a chance to save up isk for a booster and use it for double or triple sp events. I bloody well hope so. No.
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2337	Posted - 2014.04.15 22:56:00 - [28] - Quote Everything but the AUR currency should be allowed on the market and if not CCP is borking it up. The payers will set the price because if it is too high no one will buy it and if too low it will sell out quick. With an open market AUR is a way to convert RL monies to ISK and nothing more because all items will be on the market for ISK and people with RL monies but no ISK will have a way to play that suits their situation. I say no AUR currency because the item bought with AUR is the choice that players have to make that determines the profit they make from RL monies and selling AUR for ISK might as well be selling ISK packs. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Principus Shmoof Triariian Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services Armed-n-Hammered 109	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:02:00 - [29] - Quote Yes because EVE does Aur for ISK
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 76	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:08:00 - [30] - Quote Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: Yes because EVE does Aur for ISK The ratio if isk:aur would have to be the same, but dust isk is takes WAY longer to earn than eve isk. Yes, I will see you through the smoke and flames on the frontlines of war



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