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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:42:00 -
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So only the rich can go to war and the peasents are left to pubs
Looks like kain is just a PR man for DNS and wants to keep the donut as it is with this idea |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:46:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Can we please try to keep this discussion on topic - that is:
Would you play PC if there were no passive isk?
This is not about "what can be done to save PC1.0". This is not "what should be done for PC2.0". This is not "what else could be done for PC1.0".
You cant answer that question alone
The problem with PC runs alot deeper than just passive ISK
It needs a complete overhaul and starting from scratch
To obtain the blue donut should be hard as hell but if no one is intrested in PC like it is now then it will be easier
No one gives a **** about PC anymore, it doesnt really offer anything or mean anything |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:41:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Django Quik wrote:Can we please try to keep this discussion on topic - that is:
Would you play PC if there were no passive isk?
This is not about "what can be done to save PC1.0". This is not "what should be done for PC2.0". This is not "what else could be done for PC1.0". You cant answer that question alone The problem with PC runs alot deeper than just passive ISK It needs a complete overhaul and starting from scratch To obtain the blue donut should be hard as hell but if no one is intrested in PC like it is now then it will be easier No one gives a **** about PC anymore, it doesnt really offer anything or mean anything There are other threads that discuss the deeper problems about PC1.0 and how they might be fixed. This thread is the product of some of those and asks a simple question with a simple premise - "If PC had no passive isk, would you still play it?" You can and should answer that question alone because it is one serious possible change that could actually happen - any other thoughts of mechanics or limits or really anything other than simple numerical changes are not "on the table" for PC1.0. So let's discuss the question of the OP, not off-topic hypotheticals.
The full question is this
'If PC had no passive ISK, would you still play it even tho it would be exactly the same as it is now and no gameplay/mechanic changes would take place?
I can tell you what most players answers would be to the full question, it would be no, why would it be no? because nothing would change, the blue donut still exists, small corps dont give a crap, big corps dont care and farm pubs, donut wont care because its not hard to sell clones manually and they still keep the donut, PC would still suffer framerate/lag problems etc
You cannot answer OP question because it is a **** question, its redundant, the problems of PC far outweigh this and even if it changes would it infact change anything? no it wouldnt
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:51:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Django Quik wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Django Quik wrote:Can we please try to keep this discussion on topic - that is:
Would you play PC if there were no passive isk?
This is not about "what can be done to save PC1.0". This is not "what should be done for PC2.0". This is not "what else could be done for PC1.0". You cant answer that question alone The problem with PC runs alot deeper than just passive ISK It needs a complete overhaul and starting from scratch To obtain the blue donut should be hard as hell but if no one is intrested in PC like it is now then it will be easier No one gives a **** about PC anymore, it doesnt really offer anything or mean anything There are other threads that discuss the deeper problems about PC1.0 and how they might be fixed. This thread is the product of some of those and asks a simple question with a simple premise - "If PC had no passive isk, would you still play it?" You can and should answer that question alone because it is one serious possible change that could actually happen - any other thoughts of mechanics or limits or really anything other than simple numerical changes are not "on the table" for PC1.0. So let's discuss the question of the OP, not off-topic hypotheticals. The full question is this 'If PC had no passive ISK, would you still play it even tho it would be exactly the same as it is now and no gameplay/mechanic changes would take place? I can tell you what most players answers would be to the full question, it would be no, why would it be no? because nothing would change, the blue donut still exists, small corps dont give a crap, big corps dont care and farm pubs, donut wont care because its not hard to sell clones manually and they still keep the donut, PC would still suffer framerate/lag problems etc You cannot answer OP question because it is a **** question, its redundant, the problems of PC far outweigh this and even if it changes would it infact change anything? no it wouldnt Part of me thinks the question is actually, "If we weren't making billions and billions of ISK each day, would you guys still think I'm an ahole?". I don't think that is the entirety of it, but I really believe from the many posts from those within the donut that they think they've tactically joined this super alliance in preparation for all the fighting that's just around the corner.
I wouldnt call it tactics tbh
A few just jumped on the bandwagon like a flea onto a cat and sold out simple as, i mean the last corp standing is the damn french ffs and bravo to em |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:02:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:The full question is this
'If PC had no passive ISK, would you still play it even tho it would be exactly the same as it is now and no gameplay/mechanic changes would take place?
I can tell you what most players answers would be to the full question, it would be no, why would it be no? because nothing would change, the blue donut still exists, small corps dont give a crap, big corps dont care and farm pubs, donut wont care because its not hard to sell clones manually and they still keep the donut, PC would still suffer framerate/lag problems etc
You cannot answer OP question because it is a **** question, its redundant, the problems of PC far outweigh this and even if it changes would it infact change anything? no it wouldnt
What would change? The donut would have no reason to exist. Selling clones would net no isk because their sell value is now 0, as per Kane's suggestion. I think we all agree no one cares about PC and it will still be broken - at least this way people could actually have a go before it gets wiped and PC2.0 comes along in a few months time. This is a real and plausible possibility to do now to improve Dust514. We will not be getting ANY mechanical changes to PC1.0, so this is one of the only things that can be done to change anything at all. If you'd rather keep it as it is right now, then you'd rather see no one playing PC1.0 at all.
Have a go? where it costs 50mil per attack?
It means only the rich can wage war while the peasents are left to pubs
I said that on page 1 and we have gone around in a full circle now |
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