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Maximus Stryker
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:39:00 -
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No.
My basic thoughts: - Need incentives to attack - Need incentives to hold land (not just winning the ISK by winning a defense contract)
- Possibility, much better EVE rewards. Since EVE is not interested in DUST at the moment, make the the rewards for holding districts & space stupid helpful to EVE players. Like, really really helpful to them.
- If no passive ISK for owning districts, than maybe DUST players can get other rewards like a "booster" By owning districts...you get more stuff when you play pubs...kinda like how when you have increased loyalty to a faction, you get stuff from their store, when when you own a district, you get higher reputation and that reputation allows pubs to be more profitable, perhaps in both terms of ISK and SP.
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Maximus Stryker
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:04:00 -
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I read some talk about competitive team play...leave that for when we get Arena Battles. Honestly, PC is not the realm for this.
PC needs to be about further immersion, not just an epeen fighting contest. Deeper immersion literally means having a reason to fight for and hold land within the New Eden universe. Immerse us. Don't bait us by making the game solely about gaining ISK by winning attacks.
Provide reasons for both EVE Pilots/Corps and DUST mercs/Corps to want to work together to own own the ground and space.
A few examples that I can think of are below but I am sure you smarties can think of better ones:
DUST - Passive ISK (yes, this is a valid motivating factor) - 'Reputation' (this is similar to how 'standing' works for factions - the better your 'Reputation' the better your rewards in pubs, and maybe it can reduce the cost of items in the market by a certain percentage) - Have districts produce something tangible for the corp, if not ISK, than perhaps prototype or office weapons than can be solid on market or given to corp members - PVE on districts (rewards could go to the corp or the individual player, or both)
EVE (I am not an EVE player and not very little) - Help change timers quickly (similar to FW?) - Increase productivity of stations in Space (so a ship that normally takes 14 days to build can be built in 7 days) - Generate fuel (I think fuel is important...?) - Overall make the rewards so bad ass that any and every EVE corp would want to own some districts
TL;DR = competitive play is for Arena Battles, PC is for increased depth and immersion into the New Eden Universe
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Maximus Stryker
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:52:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Django Quik wrote:Can we please try to keep this discussion on topic - that is:
Would you play PC if there were no passive isk?
This is not about "what can be done to save PC1.0". This is not "what should be done for PC2.0". This is not "what else could be done for PC1.0". Well it's pretty easy to see what kains ulterior motive is with the question, based on his responses throughout the thread. He knows that CCP is looking into removing the passive isk in the meantime to cut back on the Farmville game, and kain does not want that at all. So he Created this thread looking to garner support, yet received barely any. So because this was a **** thread asking a question that does nothing to change PC beyond culling gameplay that was never intended, people started going to the topics that actually had to do with makin PC a playable game mode instead of kains personal agenda. Btw, since you might be too busy wiggling your tongue around in kains ******* to notice, repeatedly creating posts telling others they are off topic is also off topic. I thought Kane support only making ISK by attacking because his in game business model is to be a paid mercenary service and not hold/defend territory. Wouldn't a change only help him...?
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Maximus Stryker
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:57:00 -
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thinking only in short term solutions, I could support stopping passive ISK and lowering the cost of clones packs. go for it
see my previous posts about longer term solutions
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Maximus Stryker
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:41:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:I love the question "If you remove passive ISK who'd play PC?"
Because the real question is "Who's playing it now?"
I'm sure more people would play if it was less expensive to get into and less profitable, because 99% of Dust isn't playing it anyway. Yea, PC is very busted right now and DNS doesn't seem to be helping that, thought they say they will...
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