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Leonid Tybalt
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:00:00 -
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No? What incentive is there if you can't make isk of it?
New Eden = capitalism. If there's no capital to be made of an endavour, then there's no reason doing it.
That said "holding" districts should be a matter of actual FIGHTING. Not district locking bullshit as it is now... |
Leonid Tybalt
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:03:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:The only issue is you only collect the payment when you win your fights and if you can't win your fights you end up with nothing.
It's funny how the figurehead of the most notorious district locking group in Molden Heath starts talking about having to "fight" for your land.  |
Leonid Tybalt
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:39:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Guys, just to be clear again we are likely looking on only being able to get simple number changes to what we currently have. Right now the current potential numbers floating are as follows:
Plan One: Passive Reduction
*Greatly reduce clone sale price (passive ISK) and increase Biomass price: something like 40-60k clone sale and 160-180k biomass
Plan Two: Passive Elimination
*Reduce clone sale price (passive ISK) to effectively 0 and double biomass price to 200-210k
Paired with both these plans would be a clone pack size increase to 150 clones at a cost of 300k per clone to prevent self-attacks for locking or ISK farming by killing the clone pack.
*******
While I hate passive ISK, my concern is still that eliminating it may lead to negative effects on participation in PC.
The side benefit of turning off passive ISK all together is that it could allow a new region to be opened up without the concern of passive ISK bleeding into the Dust economy from the PC system on an even larger scale.
Disband DNS and stop hugging eachother like you do now, while locking everybody else out from PC and you'll see a positive effect on PC participation... |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:47:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Guys, just to be clear again we are likely looking on only being able to get simple number changes to what we currently have. Right now the current potential numbers floating are as follows:
Plan One: Passive Reduction
*Greatly reduce clone sale price (passive ISK) and increase Biomass price: something like 40-60k clone sale and 160-180k biomass
Plan Two: Passive Elimination
*Reduce clone sale price (passive ISK) to effectively 0 and double biomass price to 200-210k
Paired with both these plans would be a clone pack size increase to 150 clones at a cost of 300k per clone to prevent self-attacks for locking or ISK farming by killing the clone pack.
*******
While I hate passive ISK, my concern is still that eliminating it may lead to negative effects on participation in PC.
The side benefit of turning off passive ISK all together is that it could allow a new region to be opened up without the concern of passive ISK bleeding into the Dust economy from the PC system on an even larger scale.
Disband DNS and stop hugging eachother like you do now, while locking everybody else out from PC and you'll see a positive effect on PC participation... |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:21:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I just can't wrap my head around wanting to increasewst of entry for a game mode that is suffering from a lack of participation.
It would be like a restaurant that is struggling increasing the cost of their entrees. Forget about this blue donut for a sec.......lack of participation has to do with corps being afraid to attack or feeling that they aren't ready or good enough. Not sure if even we lowered clone pack attacks to $5M..would we get corps out of pubs and trying to get into pc.
And why the **** do you think they are afraid to attack huh?
If they knew their corp wallets wouldn't be nearly empty after a single attack like it is now (clone pack costs, vehicle and dropsuit reimbursements etc.) then smaller corps would probably be delighted to attack.
But you assholes are locking all the smaller corps out. |
Leonid Tybalt
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:52:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I just can't wrap my head around wanting to increasewst of entry for a game mode that is suffering from a lack of participation.
It would be like a restaurant that is struggling increasing the cost of their entrees. Forget about this blue donut for a sec.......lack of participation has to do with corps being afraid to attack or feeling that they aren't ready or good enough. Not sure if even we lowered clone pack attacks to $5M..would we get corps out of pubs and trying to get into pc. And why the **** do you think they are afraid to attack huh? If they knew their corp wallets wouldn't be nearly empty after a single attack like it is now (clone pack costs, vehicle and dropsuit reimbursements etc.) then smaller corps would probably be delighted to attack. But you assholes are locking all the smaller corps out. they're afraid cause they're aware of who they can't beat. Smaller corps weren't participating before this donut anyway. Only ones that tried were on PFC and they asked for protection. Those PFC corps were even asking for protection from smaller corps instead of only from the bigger dogs. So, blame those smaller corps for locking other small corp's out and removing their ability to compete.
Bullshit.
Your argument makes 0 logical sense. What would the smaller corps have to be "afraid" of? Losing a battle? It's not the end of theworld to lose a battle. It is however the end of certain corps if they lose too many PC battles due to costs.
Costs that you members of the blue sphincter don't need to care about since your chickenshit passive isk farming insures that every team in every PC battle you partake in can run full proto gear and lose it, without taking a financial hit because passive isk farming alone makes up for those losses in about an hour.
It's like a billionaire joining a friday night poker game with a bunch of low income working men, and feel "gutsy" going all in on thefirst hand... |
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