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Alex Kaidou Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2014.04.12 10:41:00 - [1] - Quote I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ******** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . Skill points doesnt define a soldier but his progress in battle does .Proto Scout/Logi/ADS pilot
jerrmy12 kahoalii 967	Posted - 2014.04.12 10:42:00 - [2] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ******** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . Plesse use english. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 719	Posted - 2014.04.12 10:45:00 - [3] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ****** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . Instead of the genetic extenders we use Scan precision amplifiers "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results**." - Albert Einstein
Alex Kaidou Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2014.04.12 10:45:00 - [4] - Quote Dude i am free to type how i choose , you were not obligated to read it , if i choose to type like that i will . Skill points doesnt define a soldier but his progress in battle does .Proto Scout/Logi/ADS pilot
jerrmy12 kahoalii 967	Posted - 2014.04.12 10:47:00 - [5] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: Dude i am free to type how i choose , you were not obligated to read it , if i choose to type like that i will . Well I cant understand it properly. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Alex Kaidou Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2014.04.12 10:49:00 - [6] - Quote Like i said , you were not obligated to read it , i mean , your the only one who has complained about it . Skill points doesnt define a soldier but his progress in battle does .Proto Scout/Logi/ADS pilot
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 618	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:09:00 - [7] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: Like i said , you were not obligated to read it , i mean , your the only one who has complained about it . Ya threw me off, jus sayin. Dude check their shields when u die, if they have around 230 they have two complex on a adv My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
Alex Kaidou Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:12:00 - [8] - Quote Diablo i am tracking their hp , its not like a go down without a fight , my smg just doesnt cut it against shields anymore . Skill points doesnt define a soldier but his progress in battle does .Proto Scout/Logi/ADS pilot
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1635	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:15:00 - [9] - Quote The cal scout is the best for hunting other scouts when you fit nothing but precision enhancers in the highs and nothing but a range amplifier and profile damper in the lows there is literally nothing that can hide from your passive scans , if you also happen to have a cloak fitted you will be next to invisible to everything but other cal scouts. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Alex Kaidou Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:21:00 - [10] - Quote Prime i am aware of that but if my dampening is lower than your precision how am i popping up on your radar Skill points doesnt define a soldier but his progress in battle does .Proto Scout/Logi/ADS pilot

pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1636	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:30:00 - [11] - Quote On my adv cal scout I get 60% reduction when you take the mods and skills, so 40-(40+ù.6) = 40-24 = 16db so if you have a db rating higher than 16 ill see you and on my pro cal scout it is as low as 11db so the folks that see you arnt all ways the ones that kill you as I relay everything that pops up on my radar to my squad. Also if you are in their line of sight even for a split second then you will show up on the radar for a few seconds. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 358	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:35:00 - [12] - Quote Your skills don't apply until a few mins into battle. So most people will be able to see you right away or until your skills get applied. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1636	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:45:00 - [13] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Your skills don't apply until a few mins into battle. So most people will be able to see you right away or until your skills get applied. This is true so as a scout it's always important to pick your spawn wisely i have found emptying a clip and reloading some times speeds up the process and gets your bonuses to apply quicker more testing is needed how ever. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Corbina Ninja Maphia Clan Corporation 785	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:46:00 - [14] - Quote i love caldari scout cloacked camper = free kill > *Test Signature Please Ignore* Tanks&Heavys 514 Black Ops Scout
Horizen Kenpachi Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 315	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:47:00 - [15] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: Alex Kaidou wrote: I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ******** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . Instead of the genetic extenders we use Scan precision amplifiers This i use 4 comp enhances keep QQ ing il find those tears unless u stop brick tanking and use damps Hit me with your nerf bat.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 872	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:55:00 - [16] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ******** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . First of all it's not 35% reduction, it's 25% and 10%. Each applies individually as it's own factor not added together. This goes for everything in the game that raises/lowers a start by% Secondly base profile on scouts is 35. Thirdly, there are things called precision enhancers that lower (ie make better) scan precision. Same as there are dampeners. Lastly, any ties between profile and precision all always go to the scanner. Good rule is that if it rounds off to a tie you will be scanned. Ie 19.62 will get be scanned by someone with 19.87 precision.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 358	Posted - 2014.04.12 15:06:00 - [17] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: Your skills don't apply until a few mins into battle. So most people will be able to see you right away or until your skills get applied. This is true so as a scout it's always important to pick your spawn wisely i have found emptying a clip and reloading some times speeds up the process and gets your bonuses to apply quicker more testing is needed how ever. I think friendly fire in pubs speeds this up as well.. or taking any kind of damage. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 635	Posted - 2014.04.12 15:12:00 - [18] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ******** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . precision enhancers.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 640	Posted - 2014.04.12 16:06:00 - [19] - Quote Some of the math in here is crazy wrong. No matter what a caldari scout does he can not scan a level 5 gallante with 2 complex damps or 1 while cloaked. There is almost zero reason for a caldari to go more than 2 complex enhancers. I suppose gallante could go 1 complex and 1 enganced or something but meh. Other than weird edge cases anything you'll scan with 4 you'll scan with 2. This is because stacking penalties get really bad at 3 and 4.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 125	Posted - 2014.04.12 16:17:00 - [20] - Quote They see you because they're running Precision Enhancers. That's what CalScouts do. CalScout Scan scenarios were tested extensively shortly after 1.8's release; no issues were found. Visit the Barbershop if you'd like to request Scan Test findings, or have specific questions or concerns. Bang?

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8293	Posted - 2014.04.12 16:30:00 - [21] - Quote Alex Kaidou wrote: I've noticed that the base scan precision is 40 dp and the caldari's 25% bonus will bring it down to 30dp which will detect normal scouts but the issue is not that , the issue is the fact that I have a 35% reduction to the 36dp that I'm currently at . my dp is lower than their scan precision and they are still seeing through me , CCP that needs to be fixed , its ******** the way that works , it makes no sense what so ever , I know many other people agree with me about that . I literally have no idea what you're trying to say. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Funkmaster Whale Ancient Exiles. 1811	Posted - 2014.04.12 17:11:00 - [22] - Quote How about instead of whining like some incessant child you try and do some critical thinking of your own to figure out why you are being scanned. No one is going to take you seriously when you post a thread that looks like some 12 year old rolled their face on their keyboard. In fact, they'll do everything they can to ridicule you. I don't know how long you've been playing DUST, but there are modules that enhance your scan precision just like there are ones that reduce your profile. How about you actually do some research before coming here making demands from CCP? Let me play you the song of my people!
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 368	Posted - 2014.04.12 17:32:00 - [23] - Quote Assuming both of you have your suit and scan skills at max, you said you're at 35% reduction to profile, which brings you down to 24.3 db. A max calscout with a single precision enhancer will scan at (surprise surprise) 24.3 db as well. Since scanners always win profile ties, you are still perfectly visible. No problem here. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1779	Posted - 2014.04.12 17:34:00 - [24] - Quote You have no way of knowing for sure that you showed up on their scans. They may simply have used their eyes or guessed. Nerdier than thou


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