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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
229
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:56:00 -
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Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day.... |
Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
182
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:57:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day....
that's a lot of anything!
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4861
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:58:00 -
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Farmville working as intended. Move along people.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6620
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:58:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day.... that's a lot of anything! Said no EVE Player ever.
#LivingLikeLarry
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
2355
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:07:00 -
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Needs moar isk
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
8276
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:08:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Farmville working as intended. Move along people.
But on a serious note though... anyone remember the GOOD days of DUST? The 8v8 matches? Remember when people actually wanted competition... then PC got introduced and DUST became Farmville514...Pepperidge Farm remembers. Pepperidge Farm remembers everything, including the big bang.
My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone.
If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
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Mister SHADOZE
3
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:12:00 -
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Because talking about the pie is better than taking a piece of it |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
230
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:16:00 -
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Mister SHADOZE wrote:Because talking about the pie is better than taking a piece of it
The pie is too expensive to retake...let ccp handle this debacle.... |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2749
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:22:00 -
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If you dont like it go and make your own alliance trying to get some turf back.
Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2778
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:25:00 -
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If I had half of that I'd just give it all away.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:28:00 -
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I thought on average a district generatesa about 10 mil isk per day. Dirt nap squad owns just about 240 out of 245 districts, this means that they generate about 2.4 bil isk a day. This is enough isk to purchase nearly 42,000 prototype suits every day.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Patrick57
6934
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:37:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:If I had half of that I'd just give it all away. If I had half that, I'd keep it.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1396
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:42:00 -
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Naw. The pie is pointless at this point. All you can use that pie for is to earn isk to take more pie. Endless cycles like that are boring.
Hopefully CCP makes PC 2.0 into something a bit more grand with different avenues for success so that it isn't such a waste of all of our time. Of course they will have to nerf all that isk that is floating about since it will unbalance the Dust economy when it eventually goes live (SOONGäó).
Fun > Realism
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4695
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:45:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Naw. The pie is pointless at this point. All you can use that pie for is to earn isk to take more pie. Endless cycles like that are boring.
Hopefully CCP makes PC 2.0 into something a bit more grand with different avenues for success so that it isn't such a waste of all of our time. Of course they will have to nerf all that isk that is floating about since it will unbalance the Dust economy when it eventually goes live (SOONGäó).
I highly doubt anything will be done about all this isk. It's going to be bad. Let's not kid ourselves.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
764
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:47:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Naw. The pie is pointless at this point. All you can use that pie for is to earn isk to take more pie. Endless cycles like that are boring.
Hopefully CCP makes PC 2.0 into something a bit more grand with different avenues for success so that it isn't such a waste of all of our time. Of course they will have to nerf all that isk that is floating about since it will unbalance the Dust economy when it eventually goes live (SOONGäó). I think CCP knows that the isk difference between the two games is going to be unacceptable and just bit the bullet.
This means that they will have to multiply the costs of basically everything in-game by 10 in order to equalize isk values between dust and eve.
I just really don't see another way to do it... I mean if they keep the currencies separate then the game economies will always been separate as well.
Of course to do that they will need to refund all items in the inventories for isk (aside from AUR items) and then do the change.
OF course non of this would bother me, I have said before I would be fine going back to zero isk for the sake of the game.
Fixing swarms
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Ace Boone
G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad.
106
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:49:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:If I had half of that I'd just give it all away. If I had half that, I'd keep it. I give my money away all the time in real life.
I am the cheapest son of a ***** on DUST you will ever meet. If you ask me for 70k, you will get 70k on the ******* dot.
meh.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2778
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:54:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:If I had half of that I'd just give it all away. If I had half that, I'd keep it. I give my money away all the time in real life. I am the cheapest son of a ***** on DUST you will ever meet. If you ask me for 70k, you will get 70k on the ******* dot. Same here
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3414
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:35:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Mister SHADOZE wrote:Because talking about the pie is better than taking a piece of it The pie is too expensive to retake...let ccp handle this debacle.... Actually it's not, if people coordinate it would be very easy to retake.
many people just dont have the balls to attack DNS for whatever reason, many corps say they are against DNS but not many fight against DNS.
Selling Dust ISK
Sir Hadah for CPM
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2779
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Mister SHADOZE wrote:Because talking about the pie is better than taking a piece of it The pie is too expensive to retake...let ccp handle this debacle.... Actually it's not, if people coordinate it would be very easy to retake. many people just dont have the balls to attack DNS for whatever reason, many corps say they are against DNS but not many fight against DNS. It's kinda like a watching a snake eating your neighbor's dog but your too busy enjoying your refreshing half & half tea.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
2695
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:57:00 -
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Well if 1300 players (about the size of DNS alliance Or DarkStar Army), combined man power can earn about 1.3 billion ISK per hour running normal ambush matches.
Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
231
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Posted - 2014.04.12 06:03:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Well if 1300 players (about the size of DNS alliance Or DarkStar Army), combined man power can earn about 1.3 billion ISK per hour running normal ambush matches.
Generating 1.3 billion isk is different than generating 1.3 billion profit when calculating fit cost and death, keepliving in a parallel universe killing this game.... |
Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
2695
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Posted - 2014.04.12 06:11:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Well if 1300 players (about the size of DNS alliance Or DarkStar Army), combined man power can earn about 1.3 billion ISK per hour running normal ambush matches. Generating 1.3 billion isk is different than generating 1.3 billion profit when calculating fit cost and death, keepliving in a parallel universe killing this game.... Starter fits all day son! Pure profit and KDR don't mean a thang.
Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
314
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Posted - 2014.04.12 06:51:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Naw. The pie is pointless at this point. All you can use that pie for is to earn isk to take more pie. Endless cycles like that are boring.
Hopefully CCP makes PC 2.0 into something a bit more grand with different avenues for success so that it isn't such a waste of all of our time. Of course they will have to nerf all that isk that is floating about since it will unbalance the Dust economy when it eventually goes live (SOONGäó). I think CCP knows that the isk difference between the two games is going to be unacceptable and just bit the bullet. This means that they will have to multiply the costs of basically everything in-game by 10 in order to equalize isk values between dust and eve. I just really don't see another way to do it... I mean if they keep the currencies separate then the game economies will always been separate as well. Of course to do that they will need to refund all items in the inventories for isk (aside from AUR items) and then do the change. OF course non of this would bother me, I have said before I would be fine going back to zero isk for the sake of the game.
They said last year at fan fest that there will be a tax for money going into dust but money will come out of dust for free.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
3453
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Posted - 2014.04.12 06:53:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Farmville working as intended. Move along people.
But on a serious note though... anyone remember the GOOD days of DUST? The 8v8 matches? Remember when people actually wanted competition... then PC got introduced and DUST became Farmville514...Pepperidge Farm remembers.
No. I don't remember that.
I do remember constant bitching about it and a sense of honor and ideals attempting to penetrate a game that never welcomed it, though. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
1191
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Posted - 2014.04.12 06:59:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Well if 1300 players (about the size of DNS alliance Or DarkStar Army), combined man power can earn about 1.3 billion ISK per hour running normal ambush matches.
no just no
31 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT
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Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
892
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Posted - 2014.04.12 07:28:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Mister SHADOZE wrote:Because talking about the pie is better than taking a piece of it The pie is too expensive to retake...let ccp handle this debacle.... Actually it's not, if people coordinate it would be very easy to retake. many people just dont have the balls to attack DNS for whatever reason, many corps say they are against DNS but not many fight against DNS. Most people just don't care enough and/or don't want to waste time playing against a bunch of cheaters. Sorry, but anything with AE in it is guilty by association; I say AE because their members publicly admitted to cheating and where defended by AE leaders and members of some of the other corps now in DNS. Which of course a few of those other corps in DNS are likely just as guilty since they swap members around from time to time.
Support Orbital Spawns
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
2695
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Posted - 2014.04.12 09:07:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Well if 1300 players (about the size of DNS alliance Or DarkStar Army), combined man power can earn about 1.3 billion ISK per hour running normal ambush matches. no just no Can anyone say PC Bang gold farmers in China?
Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
471
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:07:00 -
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The number is high regardless what the corect number is.
For me it's game over. After they have farmed this kind of isk there will be no one that will have the means to challenge them ever.
I am actually happy, first weekend in 6 months I am not logging into the game.
Regards
War never changes
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
2823
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:14:00 -
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I would take this QQ seriously if anyone actually tried u only need a 16 man squad to take and hold 1 districts, and around 1-2 months to farm the isk required which can be spent training as a unit.
This is one problem thats the communtys falt once the district lock issue got solved everyone could have done somthing about it
S
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
1096
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:40:00 -
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If I was a director I'd take the money and watch the universe burn before my very eyes
I'd settle for them stocking their war chest and then helping out the community when things open up more, that would be touching. |
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Rhydra L Wong
POISION ROSES Caps and Mercs
21
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:52:00 -
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I think we can look at examples of history where one major power had control over much of the known world and were eventually defeated by less advanced groups. Unfortunelty in Dust this isn't much of a possiblility due to game mechanics. You can't launch "sneak attacks", your less advanced group cannot be reinforced with greater numbers in battle to overwhelm the more advanced army, the starmap is pretty but means nothing for a strategic attack like it should. The only thing that would put an end to this is the collapse of the DNS alliance. It is an alliance that controls Molden Heath after all, not just a single corporation.
If you are in DNS why not start attacking your allies. It will shake things up and make the game a little more fun |
Daddrobit
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
623
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:53:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:If I was a director I'd take the money and watch the universe burn before my very eyes I'd settle for them stocking their war chest and then helping out the community when things open up more, that would be touching.
Orrrrr, when the player market opens up they'll just buy everything on the market that's for 100million or less until there's nothing left that the average player can access and they'll laugh and laugh and laugh.
#SaveTheBreach
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
967
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:56:00 -
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Rhydra L Wong wrote:I think we can look at examples of history where one major power had control over much of the known world and were eventually defeated by less advanced groups. Unfortunelty in Dust this isn't much of a possiblility due to game mechanics. You can't launch "sneak attacks", your less advanced group cannot be reinforced with greater numbers in battle to overwhelm the more advanced army, the starmap is pretty but means nothing for a strategic attack like it should. The only thing that would put an end to this is the collapse of the DNS alliance. It is an alliance that controls Molden Heath after all, not just a single corporation.
If you are in DNS why not start attacking your allies. It will shake things up and make the game a little more fun Honestly any corp that makes more than 100 mil per day needs thier wallet wiped
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
645
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Posted - 2014.04.12 10:59:00 -
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All I know is Kain Spero better turn into the Dust version of mofoking Santa Claus.
We can pickle that.
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
632
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Posted - 2014.04.12 11:00:00 -
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Rhydra L Wong wrote:If you are in DNS why not start attacking your allies. It will shake things up and make the game a little more fun Because that would require proverbial huevos, which DNS member-corps and players appear to be lacking.
Team Fairy DUST
HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
495
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Posted - 2014.04.12 11:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Seeth Mensch wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day.... that's a lot of anything! Said no EVE Player ever. 1.9b passive ISK per day is a lot on Eve side as well. So yes, Eve players would say thats a lot. There is no activity that can provide that much ISK passively on Eve with zero interaction. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
967
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Posted - 2014.04.12 11:08:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Atiim wrote:Seeth Mensch wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day.... that's a lot of anything! Said no EVE Player ever. 1.9b passive ISK per day is a lot on Eve side as well. So yes, Eve players would say thats a lot. There is no activity that can provide that much ISK passively on Eve with zero interaction. And in 200 days they can afford a titan.
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
984
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:22:00 -
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Nobody is taking my ISK.
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
370
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Seeth Mensch wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day.... that's a lot of anything! Said no EVE Player ever. 2bil a day is nothing to sniff at if you're just one guy. A whole alliance is more underwhelming.
Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
370
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:25:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:m twiggz wrote:Atiim wrote:Seeth Mensch wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Now this is lots of isk.... This amounts to 42 clone packs per day.... that's a lot of anything! Said no EVE Player ever. 1.9b passive ISK per day is a lot on Eve side as well. So yes, Eve players would say thats a lot. There is no activity that can provide that much ISK passively on Eve with zero interaction. And in 200 days they can afford a titan. Less than 50 days for an Avatar, actually.
Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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Enki Kalgarian
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
78
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:43:00 -
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Planetary conquest is a broken game mode it is absolutely impossible for new corps and older corps with to get anywhere and when you see how much Isk the bigger corps have it makes it more pointless. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4882
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Posted - 2014.04.12 19:55:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Farmville working as intended. Move along people.
But on a serious note though... anyone remember the GOOD days of DUST? The 8v8 matches? Remember when people actually wanted competition... then PC got introduced and DUST became Farmville514...Pepperidge Farm remembers. No. I don't remember that. I do remember constant bitching about it and a sense of honor and ideals attempting to penetrate a game that never welcomed it, though.
At this point people won't remember DUST was actually a fun competitive game back in the day. People got so used to farming that DUST has become EVE. Farm to your hearts content. I guess that's what people consider "molding your own destiny" in DUST huh?
"Having a purpose" and "fighting for a reason"... LOOOOL... fighting to farm ISK, such a revolutionary concept.
I guess if that's what fun is, I'll stick to being bored. 8v8's was the most fun I had in DUST in retrospect. Even the early days of PC before spam tactics became the norm, and farming became a symbol of Planetary Conquest. Attacking people for the fun of it no longer was considered as sport, but started to become a chore because people wanted a bigger picture of better things... only to realize that this bigger picture is just a farming simulator.
I'm not talking about all the pipedreams they fed the community, I'm talking the realistic goals that DUST could achieve. It's pathetic that this game is still a lobby shooter, without even a lobby to rotate maps. It's sad that PC became a the mirror of EVE of who can farm the most to save up for an imaginary war that might never happen again because the donut is so big in DUST in a community so small, that nobody would risk losing their piece of imaginary pie.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
6819
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Posted - 2014.04.17 13:08:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:All I know is Kain Spero better turn into the Dust version of mofoking Santa Claus.
And if he doesn't?
Heaven's Lost Swarmer
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2660
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Posted - 2014.04.17 14:35:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Mister SHADOZE wrote:Because talking about the pie is better than taking a piece of it The pie is too expensive to retake...let ccp handle this debacle.... Actually it's not, if people coordinate it would be very easy to retake. many people just dont have the balls to attack DNS for whatever reason, many corps say they are against DNS but not many fight against DNS.
Well, for one, not many of us have your big vault of cash money to swim around in Scrooge McDuck-style, Viktor.
Second, I think FA already took the best independent team you could realistically put together and tried that... Oh look, they're in DNS now too.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3664
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Posted - 2014.04.17 15:44:00 -
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If you guys want to retake Districts from DNS, start a Chat Channel (in-game Alliance) Players collectively agree to chip-in for clone packs, coordinate an effort in one district and start chopping away at the tree of wealth. It's not that difficult to keep them busy around the clock and spread their strongest squads out and take advantage of them having too much ground to actively cover all at once. I'd bet that there are more PC ready players NOT in DNS than there are in DNS.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Duke Noobiam
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2014.04.17 15:45:00 -
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Said it in more details in previous posts on this topic, CCP needs to tie the price/value of clone packs to the supply and demand, simple as that...
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
298
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Posted - 2014.04.17 15:46:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:If I had half of that I'd just give it all away. If I had half that, I'd keep it.
Can I have half of the half you keep? =P
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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