I'm trying to figure out the best way to counter highly dampened gallente scout players and I keep falling short. I'm not sure what the best way is to actually detect one of these players and I think it's simply because the math won't allow for it.

I'll show you what I've worked out and maybe the community can help me correct my issues or suggest something I haven't thought of. Before I continue, I should mention I used whole percentages for stacking penalties and rounded at the end of the "db" calculations. Percentages used for stacking penalties were 100%, 86%, 57%, and 28%. Also I'm assuming maximum levels for the skills involved.

Most important, if my math is wrong please tell me why it is wrong and I will attempt to correct it. I based the calculations on past understandings of how skills are multiplied and the order in which they are worked on. I'm assuming that cloaks are added at the end. I am already aware that because I'm not using precise stacking penalty percentages that my values have some error.

All values may be plus or minus 1db as a general estimated cover of the error caused by rounding and using whole percentages.


Dampening:

Any scout with passive dampening
35 x .9 = 31.5
Gallente: 35 x .9 x .75 = 23.63

Any scout with 1 dampener
35 x .9 x .75 = 23.63
Gallente: 35 x .9 x .75 x .75 = 17.72

Any scout with 2 dampeners
35 x .9 x .75 x .785 = 18.55
Gallente: 35 x .9 x .75 x .75 x .785 = 13.91

Any scout with 1 dampener and cloak active
35 x .9 x .75 x .75 = 17.72
Gallente: 35 x .9 x .75 x .75 x .75= 13.29

Any scout with 2 dampeners and cloak active
35 x .9 x .75 x .785 x .75 = 13.91
Gallente: 35 x .9 x .75 x .75 x .785 x .75 = 10.43


Precision:

Gallente logi with focused scanner
20 x .75 = 15

Any scout with passive precision
40 x .9 = 36
Caldari: 40 x .9 x .75 = 27

Any scout with 1 precision mod
40 x .9 x .8 = 28.8
Caldari: 40 x .9 x .75 x .8 = 21.6

Any scout with 2 precision mods
40 x .9 x .8 x .828 = 23.85
Caldari: 40 x .9 x .75 x .8 x .828 = 17.88

A couple scouts with 3 precision mods
40 x .9 x .8 x .828 x .886 = 21.13
Caldari: 40 x .9 x .75 x .8 x .828 x .886 = 15.85

A couple scouts with 4 precision mods
40 x .9 x .8 x .828 x .886 x .944 = 19.95
Caldari: 40 x .9 x .75 x .8 x .828 x .886 x .944 = 14.96


Since caldari and gallente are the current in game leaders in precision and dampening I'm going to draw conclusions with these suits as the focus.

With passives alone a caldari suit will not detect a gallente suit.
With 1 precision mod a caldari suit will detect a passive gallente suit.
With 2 precision mods a caldari suit will detect a gallente suit with 1 dampener.
A caldari suit will not detect a gallente suit with 2 or more dampeners.
A caldari suit will not detect a gallente suit with 1 cloak and 1 or more dampeners.
A caldari suit will not detect any suit with 1 cloak and 2 or more dampeners.

Of course that's if all you are equipping is precision mods.

I guess I could just use my eyes. Lol.

Yes, they give up a lot for dampening but I find it worrying that there is no counter for a fully dampened gallente scout. Why can't a caldari scout give up everything to find a gallente scout also?

But as it stands the amount of precision required to defeat dampening is way too high.