I didn't but that's just me... don't want to go into that right now. What I want to understand is why many corporations who should be happy with it... are not

If you do not want to read wall of text read summarized portion at the bottom.

Before we begin, I am against fight club. I know that, you know that, everyone knows that.... it doesn't matter here and there's no reason to bring that up. I hope I explained every view here. I always do my best to remain unbiased when it comes to progressing the game and this post falls under it.

Let's begin, PFC was the first step into turning MH into a blue donut. As many districts it had, it was not enough to fit every corp who wanted to "practice" without worrying about the risk in holding a district.

So the only way to fix it was to turn ALL of MH into a fight club. Now all of your dreams can come true. Every corp will now be able to fight one another without the risk of losing a district because none will hold any. Hold on it gets better, no corp can accuse another corp for farming isk because all passive isk goes to DNS. No more locking, farming, and worry of being attacked by a corp that does not agree with the ideals of the fight club.

So why the negativity? Maybe everyone is happy about blue donut and people are simply against DNS... But I cannot think of anyone else willing or capable of defending MHFC... after all they did volunteer and get accepted by PFC to defend against those apposed to the fight club... nothing has changed other than more property having to be defended, but the passive isk from the entire region should be more than enough to cover the maintenance and defense. I might like it... but I think what I really don't like is that I'm not part of the team making lots of money... that's probably the real reason the hate is there but people don't want to admit to greed...

Now then, for those that are for PFC but against MH Blue Donut.... kind of hypocritical wouldn't you agree??? Be careful what you say about Blue donut because it applies to PFC as well. Instead of just having 1 planet to practice, should have gotten a system... but skip the system and let's just get the whole region. I mean think about it, MHFC will become the equivalent to the academy for new corps... which would work better if we had other regions for corps who want the real PC

The only people that can argue against the blue donut are those that disagreed with PFC. It's only fair since MHFC is simply PFC on a grander scale... Those same people that believed that PC should remain what it was founded to be... where corporations "Controlling these districts will amass wealth for you and your allies and provoke conflict with your enemies" (Dev blog introducing PC). They argued that a "safe environment" removed the last part of what PC was suppose to be (the PROVOCATION of conflict with enemies). Clearly the same argument is being used against MHFC by many corps... many of which supported that "Safe environment" that PFC provided.

Now lets address those that say we should attack blue donut. We simply CANT. Why you ask? Because its frowned upon by the Dust community to attack Fight Club. My own corp got lots of negativity for attacking fight club and even though many corps were against it.. they remained quiet because they did not want to anger the mass population. Same thing applies to this, so stop asking why corps don't attack. Remember: Frowned upon by dust community

If you have gotten this far and haven't figured out why I keep switching Blue Donut with MHFC, it is because of Phase 2 of blue donut. When Blue Donut was first announced it was divided into 2 phases. First phase being turning MH into Blue Donut which is almost complete. Phase 2 was to allow corps to sign up and fight each other in a controlled environment so they do not get bored and practice fighting in PC so corps don't get rusty. Phase 2 describes the foundation of PFC. Once phase 2 is initiated, Blue Donut will officially become MHFC.

To summarize, if you support PFC, why are you arguing against MHFC. If you are against PFC then I understand why are against MHFC. If you do not understand why corps will not assault MHFC, it is because the Dust Community frowns upon attacking fight club.

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I summarized it at the bottom...

To summarize, if you support PFC, why are you arguing against MHFC. If you are against PFC then I understand why are against MHFC. If you do not understand why corps will not assault MHFC, it is because the Dust Community frowns upon attacking fight club.

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I am for pfc but a community run pfc is just destined to be a complete fail. CCP really needs to alllow us to make customizable games or the ability to challenge each other to full team battles. Of course such a game mode wouldn't have the rewards a pc districts brings..

Well I am just rambling but It is my thoughts that ccp should give the community a pfc type game mode. It doesn't have to have any kind of rewards.... If people really wanted to practice then they can practice until they feel like they are ready.

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I'm watching trailer park boys season 1. How I have never seen this epic show.

I'm watching trailer park boys season 1. How I have never seen this epic show.

How have you not seen that?

Please... just go to the locker room.

It's not MHFC it's the Dirt Nap League.

I'm still sad to see that PFC got mothballed, but maybe this will work out better. PFC was in fact the tracer bullet for setting up a much more elaborate corp battle system under player control.

The original idea was for Fittaken to be the locus for it, but as folks can see plans somewhat changed.

If ccp sees this. I want to make one thing clear. The players decide what is fun or not in a video game, not the designer. The best kind of feedback you can get from the community is not from cry cry posts, nerf posts, ect.

The majority of the player base thinks this game sucks. Why most of them stay? idk. A bunch of people would tell me they think the game has potential. The biggest feedback you as a game company should have payed attention too was the "player made ideas" that made this game a little bit more fun and interesting. When a game gets boring, they will either quit or come up with new and provocative ways to play. The fact that such player made events has such good turn outs must tell you something.

Here are a few community made ideas that have been popular. You game designers should take a second glance at these . While we may not all have degrees in game design, we do know what is fun and what is not fun.


ThunderDome.
1 vs 1 , betting on who will win. Got beef with a player? someone called you a noob? challenge the fool to thunderdome. place bets. Hell make an arena man just for it so its not just an open field with 2 guys shooting at each other.


PFC.
The idea for pfc was to give younger less experienced corps experience to play on a more competitive level. Somehow it became an isk farm. Not all pfc corps farmed but many did. The idea behind pfc was that the practice would be its own reward. Of practicing and improving to the point where its not just ae vs tp every single day but to give others a chance to GET GOOD and become a part of a larger competitive community. The idea behind pfc is sound but its execution is flawed as I stated earlier. Practice should be meant as practice, not to farm isk. This all could have been easily solved if ccp enabled friendly corp matches that offered no reward of districts. There is CLEARLY A LARGE DEMAND for a pfc game mode.

Drunk Night.
Not sure if I could count this but I think it was really good for the community. Lets face it. The general race based default chats suck. It is only used for trolling and there is no voice. Every friday night Drunk Night turns into a giant social Community hub of the sorts. Everyone is having a good time, drinking, making jokes, meeting new people. Corp chats are nice and all... but we have to realize that we are a part of a much bigger community. I see that you tried to link the community together with the release of squad finder, which is logical since this is a team based game. But I still feel like there is still more you can do to improve upon this. Improve communication and community interaction.

^ One bad example of how you failing to think about this is the forum awareness. Half the player base doesnt even know there is a forum. You have updated the ingame update messages far too late far too many times. People who could have participated in an event , don't do so because they have no idea what is going on. News may spread fast through word of mouth but that is just a bad way to run a company and besides not everyone has mics and communicative.

I'm watching trailer park boys season 1. How I have never seen this epic show.

You must be American? Here in Canada, they are worshiped as Gods. They are responsible for so many failed dope operations and underage drink charges. Mr Lahey...is actually drunk while filming..and I want you to Google what Bubbles actually looks and sounds like in real life...MIND blowing. Also, from season one...remember what Randys gut look like, then...fast forward to last episode, it tripled in size lol