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Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1216	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:18:00 - [1] - Quote Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3846	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:20:00 - [2] - Quote "Real heavies" Real heavies equip whatever the hell they want. QQ more. No.
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 732	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:21:00 - [3] - Quote Oh boy, this thread again... *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1216	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:27:00 - [4] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: "Real heavies" Real heavies equip whatever the hell they want. QQ more. I use a burst HMG and shred the pathetic bastards. They do however annoy me because they suck, they know it, and they make no effort to rectify it. Why else would you use terrible tactics(HMG guy!? CHARGE HEAD ON!) and have aim so bad that they can't kill me when they get the drop on me? They know their aim is crap, so they just pray the other guy will have to reload before he chews them in half. Seriously, it's sad. make them use the gun the suit was designed for, or GTFO to the smaller suits that would fit their microscopic genitals. I like the heavy because of the heavy guns. I am generally one of two things: Heavy weapons guy, or sneaky overwatch guy. the gun just happens to come with a nice suit. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 449	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:27:00 - [5] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. No. How about you reread the heavy stats and then write an essay on how stupid you are, titled "I am a Survivor - A Burn Story"
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4992	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:26:00 - [6] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. Heavies do not need a nerf. As it is , in 1.8, i prefera heavy with a Light weapon than an HMG XD Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1285	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:33:00 - [7] - Quote Balancing the Sentinel around its 2 current weapons is shortsighted and just means you have to rebalance it when more heavy weapons release. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2234	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:37:00 - [8] - Quote I agree it should be done. People complain "but we only have two heavy weapons" use the Commando? Lol Just my two isk.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 165	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:41:00 - [9] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. Their penalty is the fact that they are using a light weapon in a fat suit. Seriously if someone is near you nothing shreds corridors like a HMG. If you are at range nothing ragdolls suits like a forge gun. It's like when suits carry double sidearms, it's not optimal, it's just what people like to do sometimes. The commando still gets a flat damage boost and a secondary light weapon to boot. This provides a lot of powerful combos that a sentinel can't match. Caldari Rail Rifle and Sniper, Amarr Assault Scram and LR, Gallente AR with a potato cannon, Minnie MD and CR, there are pretty decent combos it's just Commandos are flanker/support type suits let the sentinel tank. There's nothing OP about someone picking the slowest suits with a massive hitbox and then gimping themselves by not using the heavy slot for a heavy weapon.
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 132	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:51:00 - [10] - Quote they were going to give only hw to us but ppl whined and logiebro said wasnt needed atm . once we get more hw i see heavys will lose lw forever .
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 370	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:53:00 - [11] - Quote This is getting old OK this is like the 15th time I've said this on the forums....CCP has already stated that this isn't being considered at this time due to the lack of heavy weapons available... once more weapons are available they MAY consider it So until we get more heavy weapons quitcherbitchin or start pushing CCP to give us more heavy weapons since that's gotta come first Oh and real heavies....well let me direct you to my sig Real heavies use lasers
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 540	Posted - 2014.04.11 07:03:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I agree it should be done. People complain "but we only have two heavy weapons" use the Commando? Lol Just my two isk. SP spent on a sentinal does not = sp spent on commando.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 540	Posted - 2014.04.11 07:07:00 - [13] - Quote The funny thing to me about these types of thread is that it seems so counter intuitive that i really just can't believe people make these threads to start with. Its like saying a body builder can lift something that weighs 400 lbs but his body is not designed to pick up a 5 lbs gallon of milk because they are not meant to. The heavy dropsuit is make to be able to weild heavy weapons there is no good reason that it would have issues with any light weapon.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 113	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:03:00 - [14] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: The funny thing to me about these types of thread is that it seems so counter intuitive that i really just can't believe people make these threads to start with. Its like saying a body builder can lift something that weighs 400 lbs but his body is not designed to pick up a 5 lbs gallon of milk because they are not meant to. The heavy dropsuit is make to be able to weild heavy weapons there is no good reason that it would have issues with any light weapon. Lol, I know that kind of bodybuilder :D They build their muscles to look like something, not to be effective. Ever asked a bodybuilder to help you move? Was the first to give up, panting like an old woman. Just tried out a Gal Sentinel AR fit. Horrible ... The question is not what sort of weapon you fit. The question is: Is it proto or not? If not, you lose. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
yep derrith again Shining Flame Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:52:00 - [15] - Quote Agreed, speaking as a fat boi, keep it kosher yo.
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 193	Posted - 2014.04.11 17:22:00 - [16] - Quote If your gonna take away something from me balance it out... I'm cool losing the ability to use light weapons give the sentinels more resistance or make heavy damage mods 10%, no bonus headshot damage something along these lines G0DS AM0NG MEN Director 1.8 is going to be Heavy 514 they said... Looking around all I see are twig men
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2168	Posted - 2014.04.11 17:33:00 - [17] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. Yeah. Introduce more artificial barriers to the fitting system! Basically: No. Let them use what they want. If they think a lot of armor is more important for them than speed, then let them use light weapons with a heavy suit. Just because you think heavys should only use heavy weapons doesn't mean you need to enforce this rule on everybody else. This is what makes Dust so interesting: You never know what kind of fitting your enemy is using. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1229	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:00:00 - [18] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. Yeah. Introduce more artificial barriers to the fitting system! Basically: No. Let them use what they want. If they think a lot of armor is more important for them than speed, then let them use light weapons with a heavy suit. Just because you think heavys should only use heavy weapons doesn't mean you need to enforce this rule on everybody else. This is what makes Dust so interesting: You never know what kind of fitting your enemy is using. Uh yeah I do. If it's anyone in any of the "big name" corps, they're using either galsent with rifle or galscout with shotgun. Such variety! a whole two fits... If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Dunce Masterson Savage Bullet 76	Posted - 2014.04.12 00:30:00 - [19] - Quote The most anoying sound of the baby crying some one give him or her a binky. If i remember correctly a Dev has replied to a post like this saying some thing along the lines of they will consider then when all the heavy weapons are out untill then things are going to stay the same. if heavys should loose their side arm then the heavy weapon reload speed will need to be cut in half to compinsate. I don't even know why I bother.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2174	Posted - 2014.04.12 08:44:00 - [20] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Period. You want the most HP? Then get the second shortest range gun, or the antitank cannon. Pick one. Oh, and a sidearm. Real heavies won't be affected by this change in the slightest. Yeah. Introduce more artificial barriers to the fitting system! Basically: No. Let them use what they want. If they think a lot of armor is more important for them than speed, then let them use light weapons with a heavy suit. Just because you think heavys should only use heavy weapons doesn't mean you need to enforce this rule on everybody else. This is what makes Dust so interesting: You never know what kind of fitting your enemy is using. Uh yeah I do. If it's anyone in any of the "big name" corps, they're using either galsent with rifle or galscout with shotgun. Such variety! a whole two fits... Playing against corps is another thing. Many corps have doctrines. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

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