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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:45:00 -
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Just got out of an ambush only to face an entire team running scout suits. Is it because of the bonus to precision and dampening you get? Is is because you always wanted to be one? Or is it more of the "FOTM because of cloaks and they are the new thing to use because of strafing?"
NO QQ here, No BS.
I feel that people are running scouts because you can easily tank them (in that case you nerf yourself) or the fact that everyone can be seen easier.
I do not know. This is why I am asking the question and want your input.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4103
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:47:00 -
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I've run scout since 1.1
Not changing now
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
172
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I've run scout since 1.1
Not changing now
Respect, you have mine
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4104
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:51:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I've run scout since 1.1
Not changing now Respect, you have mine
Did the sig help convince you that I'm not lying? 
I've played against you before. Min Logi right?
With a Scrambler?
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:53:00 -
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No problem with Scouts. No problem with Cloaks. The only problem I see is Scouts running "brick tanked". Now if you want to address that issue without nerfing all suits that run Armor Plates or the eWAR Scouts please feel free. I have yet to see a good idea.
However, i'm partial to just leaving it be right now. Game is pretty balanced currently. |
LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
412
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:53:00 -
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Ran a scout suit back in 1.2 Decided it would be kind of fun to pick them up again mainly because of the skill bonus and slot overhauls, not cloaks. Was glad I did, but I also feel cloaks need to be adjusted somewhat.
Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
1114
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:56:00 -
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Been a scout since 1.5? Just before 1.6 hit. No point in changing now. Besides you can make your own rules as a scout.
Amateur Proficiency XCV
Autistic Mechanic and Engineer, I build stuff, take apart stuff, modify stuff, destroy stuff
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4104
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:56:00 -
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Sourdough Muffins wrote:No problem with Scouts. No problem with Cloaks. The only problem I see is Scouts running "brick tanked". Now if you want to address that issue without nerfing all suits that run Armor Plates or the eWAR Scouts please feel free. I have yet to see a good idea.
However, i'm partial to just leaving it be right now. Game is pretty balanced currently.
Armor mods should be percentage based instead of a base value.
Same for shields.
Exempt from stacking penalties though.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
331
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:59:00 -
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Scout since late Chrome, so what Kaisar said in that regards... mostly...
But yes, I think a large part of it is the FoTM thing. Scouts being given so many buffs allows them to now function as light assault suits, and even part time logis due to the equipment slot buff. The cloak is a fun piece of equipment as well and allows complete domination of players who aren't experienced in dealing with scouts. Plus of course, the other buffs to the E-Ware department really help. A lot of players switched over because of all these buffs, even the ones that avoided the scout suit before since it was considered UP (At least the Minmatar scout) by most of the community.
Speed, versatility, E-Ware, cloak... There's really not much of a reason not to go into the scout suits right now, thus why you're seeing so many of them. The numbers have dropped a bit though, as the first day or so of 1.8, almost every single player was in a scout suit. Now, most games, you may see two or three per side... or rather, you may not see two or three per side, depending on how good they are. 
This is one of those FoTM's you should definitely get used to though, because the cloak is fun as hell, and until something more entertaining comes out (CCP, jetpacks, please?) they're going to continue to see use on the battlefield in relatively high numbers (At least compared to pre-1.8 levels)
If you want to take advantage of all the noob scouts though, the commandos make for wonderful anti-scout suits (Assuming you have good situational awareness. Minmatar commandos are especially dangerous with that MD. 
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1746
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:00:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Just got out of an ambush only to face an entire team running scout suits. Is it because of the bonus to precision and dampening you get? Is is because you always wanted to be one? Or is it more of the "FOTM because of cloaks and they are the new thing to use because of strafing?"
NO QQ here, No BS.
I feel that people are running scouts because you can easily tank them (in that case you nerf yourself) or the fact that everyone can be seen easier.
I do not know. This is why I am asking the question and want your input.
I've always loved flanking as my primary method of killing. Pre-1.8, this role was best served, for me, by the Min Logi- super fast hacking, plenty of equipment, only slightly slower than scouts. Then they took away my hack speed bonus and replaced it with the most boring bonus in the game, gave scouts a real role bonus, buffed their slots, and gave my dropsuit SP back. At that point it was an obvious choice for me. Scout now and forevermore!
Nerdier than thou
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
174
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:01:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dj grammer wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I've run scout since 1.1
Not changing now Respect, you have mine Did the sig help convince you that I'm not lying? I've played against you before. Min Logi right? With a Scrambler?
Both on the team and versus each other. fun times, fun times
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
577
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:01:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Just got out of an ambush only to face an entire team running scout suits. Is it because of the bonus to precision and dampening you get? Is is because you always wanted to be one? Or is it more of the "FOTM because of cloaks and they are the new thing to use because of strafing?"
NO QQ here, No BS.
I feel that people are running scouts because you can easily tank them (in that case you nerf yourself) or the fact that everyone can be seen easier.
I do not know. This is why I am asking the question and want your input.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2039843#post2039843
That may have some thing to do with it.
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
766
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:01:00 -
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I assume a bit of the proliferation of scouts is because of that "new car smell." All nice and shiny and new.
Others may run scouts because assaults are generally lackluster (or just completely awful, in some cases), and logis were hit with a double nerf.
And never mind Scotty. Sometimes you get a match with 10 scouts on both teams, and other times you get a match with 4 scouts total. Same goes for heavies and such. Random chance can do a lot to make reality seem like something it isn't.
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LittleCuteBunny
410
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:05:00 -
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I will be running 2 proto suits of scouts, assaults, logis and heavies
Retired.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
331
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:06:00 -
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Sourdough Muffins wrote:No problem with Scouts. No problem with Cloaks. The only problem I see is Scouts running "brick tanked". Now if you want to address that issue without nerfing all suits that run Armor Plates or the eWAR Scouts please feel free. I have yet to see a good idea.
However, i'm partial to just leaving it be right now. Game is pretty balanced currently.
Add a profile increase for stacking plates/shields. The main problem I see with this is that these suits can't really be detected when cloaked (mostly the Gal scout) otherwise, they're just light assaults and logis can get similar health results while still using a cloak. Adding a small penalty to the scan profile would easily change this and wouldn't really hurt the scouts who run as regular scouts, or anyone else for that matter.
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
1001
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:11:00 -
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I run ALL things Amarr as my sig hopefully shows...
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Imon Fiya
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:17:00 -
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NEW Scout is a fad.
True scouts will still run them and do well, but new scouts are skilling into other suits because people are getting used to spotting them. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4109
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:19:00 -
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Imon Fiya wrote:NEW Scout is a fad.
True scouts will still run them and do well, but new scouts are skilling into other suits because people are getting used to spotting them.
Who are you?
Not being a jerk, but I do happen to know a vast majority of people who ran scout pre 1.8, and your name doesn't ring any bells.
Alt maybe?
or not PC or Forum active?
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1822
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:23:00 -
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Yep, with tanks. Get with the program. No choice. Adapt or die means you do what everybody else does. No exceptions.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2336
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:24:00 -
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I'm a new scout.
it seems to me like everyone is running everything except assault suits.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:25:00 -
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Cloaking + Shotgun is the new thing that makes scouts popular. It's basically an easy Kill in objective type maps
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet - CLOAKING
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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
169
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:27:00 -
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I have run logi until the 1.8 changeup. I have always wanted to play fast and hidden, but there was no real way to do it until now.
I don't think the cloak is OP; I think there are a lot of frustrated players who aren't playing patiently. And, yes, cloakers get that first hit often, but I have been outplayed quite often by a savvy person.
In short: It's fast, exciting, and I get to be a ninja.
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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Lucrezia LeGrand
447
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:37:00 -
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they look better.
Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1621
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:43:00 -
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I've been running Gallente scout for the past year and a half. No reason to switch now.... Been nothing but ninja since day one.... playing it low and slow with maximum sneak. It's great fun and I hope we get some good new scouts because of the new found popularity. And at the same time, I hope the FOTM chasers move along and stop tainting my suit of choice....
The hard times were hard, but rewarding... but he good times are here again for sure. I wish there was a bit more balance to the scout suits when compared to the assaults but to be honest I see WAY more heavies on the field than scouts.
I'm glad CCP released all the racial variants, now i can finally think about speccing into another suit.
Well, another scout suit, that is....
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Beld Errmon
1585
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:13:00 -
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I'm totally a FOTM scout and why wouldn't I be, I can run a suit that cloaks, has 2 equipment slots, has a decent amount of HP and speed, and by default is nearly unscannable.
I've still got my amarr logi if the galscout gets nerfed into the ground and with the proliferation of the cloaking assault scout, its almost inevitable
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
773
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:24:00 -
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You're not going to find many FoTM chasers fessing up here.
Mad Bomber - 50% less profile
Return dumbfire to Swarms
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5075
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:24:00 -
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Clake is the new shiny toy in the playground.
Once all the silly little children start to realise those sparkles are just clear plastic and not real diamonds, they'll get over it and move back to something they like better.
And when I say "shiny", I mean you light up like a blue christmas tree whenever you're moving. If people don't see you, then either they need their TV settings checked or they need their eyes checked. |
Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
118
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:28:00 -
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I chose scout because it was the smart option. The utility of it beats the other suits hands down. Why would I spend points in Cal Assualt when I can run faster, fit more crap, see everyone before they see me and of course be invisible. I chased that FOTM, caught it, now I make sweet sweet love to it.
There's a message in my Cheerios!
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Beld Errmon
1585
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:33:00 -
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I still think its funny so many people seem to think that skilling into the cloaking scout is some kinda character failing, I say that failing to skill into something so fun and clearly powerful is a sign of stupidity, and if you've got a decent amount of SP its hardly going to be the only tool available to you.
Its why you don't see respecs in eve every time something is changed or nerfed, most players have a heap of SP invested in a number of different ship types and races, once one thing becomes useless or subpar, they change the fitout or sell the ship.
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:58:00 -
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I've been a scout since 1.2
Never liked the shotgun. Now its just a cheap shot.
I'll stick to my knives. Nobody complains about them (unless their fairly new and don't know how immensely frustrating and tricky they can be to use)
Also its rarely 'fun' to play a min scout. Tense and exciting sometimes. Rage inducing others. But hardly ever fun.
Plus I lament my inability to carry anything decent on my adv fit. I miss my RE's <3 
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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