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Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 297	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:05:00 - [31] - Quote I've had a gal scout alt for....4 patches. Still run him once a week, and I rarely use a cloak I just use the massive fitting to put a bunch of different cool things on him. And I don't use shotguns. But no, I'm a heavy (a new heavy only since 1.6) and a commando now too, oh...and a logi...and a fully specified AV infantry. Basically I don't like to play the same thing for extended periods of time.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 297	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:07:00 - [32] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Clack is the new shiny toy in the playground. Once all the silly little children start to realise those sparkles are just clear plastic and not real diamonds, they'll get over it and move back to something they like better. And when I say "shiny", I mean you light up like a blue christmas tree whenever you're moving. If people don't see you, then either they need their TV settings checked or they need their eyes checked. Fixed for terminology.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 902	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:37:00 - [33] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: Just got out of an ambush only to face an entire team running scout suits. Is it because of the bonus to precision and dampening you get? Is is because you always wanted to be one? Or is it more of the "FOTM because of cloaks and they are the new thing to use because of strafing?" NO QQ here, No BS. I feel that people are running scouts because you can easily tank them (in that case you nerf yourself) or the fact that everyone can be seen easier. I do not know. This is why I am asking the question and want your input. Hmm I rarely see THAT much scouts, but yes more people are running scouts. First because of the cloak and second because of the new racial suits. But in general I still encounter more Mediums and FAR more Heavies than scouts. When it comes to scouts I see mostly Caldari scouts followed by Gallente and then Amarr and Minmatar...
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1267	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:39:00 - [34] - Quote everyone that used assault before is now most likely running scout because the current scouts are better assaults: you give up ~100 EHP due to the nature of scouts having less base HP which is marginal, you can still get up to 800 EHP... but you gain better hitbox, more mobility/speed, 2 equipment slots, autodampening & bonus to cloak fitting and you still deal the same damage as assaults the only exception is the minmatar scout, the minmatar scout cannot do that because you cannot fit anything worth on it because CCP Shanghai hates Minmatar.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 422	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:39:00 - [35] - Quote Started getting interested in scouts around 1.6. 1.8 was the perfect option for ke to skill out of my old assault logi and commandos, the idea of sneakiness and ewar is what keeps me entertained in this game, it just adds a nice thrill factor to be behind enemy lines and disrupt their front 1 by 1 from behind. So yeah, I'm kind of new to scouts but I'm loving what they did to buff 'em another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
Cinnamon267 134	Posted - 2014.04.10 10:04:00 - [36] - Quote Personally, I rarely see scouts. I saw a lot of them day 1 of 1.8, but now I see very few. About the same as it was before, honestly. Assaults still dominate the map in my matches. Heavies/Commando's are definitely more plentiful.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5077	Posted - 2014.04.10 10:21:00 - [37] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I still think its funny so many people seem to think that skilling into the cloaking scout is some kinda character failing, I say that failing to skill into something so fun and clearly powerful is a sign of stupidity, and if you've got a decent amount of SP its hardly going to be the only tool available to you. People who skill into cloaks specifically because they see everyone else doing it, without doing any research into what makes it good or how to use it? Idiots. People who actively AVOID skilling into it after doing the research and deciding it's "OP" and not wanting to use it out of some sense of honour? Idiots. People who do the research and decide they can do everything they need to do WITHOUT the cloak? Not idiots. People who do their research, like what they see with the cloak and skill into it as a complement to their playstyle? Not idiots. There are good and bad reasons to use the cloak, and there are good and bad reasons NOT to use it. People target the cloak because, like I said, it's a new toy and lots of people have skilled themselves up just to try it out. For some of those people, it's not making much difference, and for others, it's making them a lot more effective. The sheer prevalence of them on the field is getting a lot of attention, and that makes for a lot of unnecessary threads complaining about it.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5006	Posted - 2014.04.10 10:46:00 - [38] - Quote Minmatar Assault. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 282	Posted - 2014.04.10 10:50:00 - [39] - Quote Sourdough Muffins wrote: No problem with Scouts. No problem with Cloaks. The only problem I see is Scouts running "brick tanked". Now if you want to address that issue without nerfing all suits that run Armor Plates or the eWAR Scouts please feel free. I have yet to see a good idea. However, i'm partial to just leaving it be right now. Game is pretty balanced currently. movement penalties for amrour plates shoudl be higher for smaller fremas perhaps?. keep the movemnt pentalythe same for medium frame. slightly lowere it for heavies drastically increse it for scouts? *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2179	Posted - 2014.04.10 10:52:00 - [40] - Quote Yep, im a gallente scout. Im also a gallente commando, and a blaster tank pilot. QQ more. Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR

Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2062	Posted - 2014.04.10 11:16:00 - [41] - Quote Gallente Scout since Closed Beta. Got Minmatar Scout during the Nova Knife Event. The Dropsuit Command SP refund let my trade my Cal-Assault for a Cal-Scout and my Cal-Logi for a Cal-Commando I converted my Amarr-Assualt into the lvl 5 Cloak Field. And I miss that the most. Taking the SP from this sidearm event and the 3x SP event next week and getting my Amarr Assault back. I can't tell you how much I miss that suit. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1402	Posted - 2014.04.10 12:56:00 - [42] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: Just got out of an ambush only to face an entire team running scout suits. Is it because of the bonus to precision and dampening you get? Is is because you always wanted to be one? Or is it more of the "FOTM because of cloaks and they are the new thing to use because of strafing?" NO QQ here, No BS. I feel that people are running scouts because you can easily tank them (in that case you nerf yourself) or the fact that everyone can be seen easier. I do not know. This is why I am asking the question and want your input. I've always had a drogonfly lol... But that didn't make me a scout... I always wanted one but didn't want any Min Suits.. Now i have a Scout hunter Suit, that specializes in taking out brick tanked scouts 240 total EHP shield and Armor combined...It makes me feel alive everytime i kill one...
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 741	Posted - 2014.04.10 13:31:00 - [43] - Quote I always wanted one, and I had been debating what to do when 1.8 hit. As soon as I saw all my refunded SP, I went for it and got my Minmatar Scout (the debates I had internally on which Scout to get were getting very annoying, so, it was very comforting finally picking one). I have ~350eHP at most on my suits, with most being comparably lower (that's my 'tanked' Proto suit mind you). I still got my Proto Logi (Minmatar too) and got my Commando and Sentinel to advanced for versatility (Minmatar) and got a single point into Assault for the time being. If they ever get around to really working on the Medium suits, it'll be great, but until then I'll just slowly work on all my suits (Assault to advanced, then Sentinel to Proto, then Commando, and ending with Assault). I really hope CCP will allow us to change the race of our BPOs someday, 5 Gallente Scout BPOs keep mocking me for not speccing them. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
SeeD A Dust Garden 12	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:22:00 - [44] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: Just got out of an ambush only to face an entire team running scout suits. Is it because of the bonus to precision and dampening you get? Is is because you always wanted to be one? Or is it more of the "FOTM because of cloaks and they are the new thing to use because of strafing?" NO QQ here, No BS. I feel that people are running scouts because you can easily tank them (in that case you nerf yourself) or the fact that everyone can be seen easier. I do not know. This is why I am asking the question and want your input. Imo, yes. The real why is because they dont go down so easly as before, most of them tanked scouts, as soon as they die easily you will see a drop on scout usage. Precision, dampening and cloaks are their plus they NEED for survival. The Shotgun+cloak thing my word is "if you dont see them you deserve the die", Shotgun+ cloak + you see it! "No WAY you should die" unless too late. And for the cloaks they are almost fine, just a little tweak, a must: decloak fully before shoot and at most a cool down thats it(IMO its fine at it is). If they truly want to hit hard the cloaks(nerf), to render them almost unusable adding consumables to it 5/5, 10/10 whatever, you got the point. Wisely use thing. [Space Reserved for future post]
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 607	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:29:00 - [45] - Quote Sourdough Muffins wrote: No problem with Scouts. No problem with Cloaks. The only problem I see is Scouts running "brick tanked". Now if you want to address that issue without nerfing all suits that run Armor Plates or the eWAR Scouts please feel free. I have yet to see a good idea. However, i'm partial to just leaving it be right now. Game is pretty balanced currently. Percent based bonus to armor (and shield) modules, speed penalties based on suit tier Basic Armor plate gives 10% of base armor HP - 3% movement penalty for light frames, 2% penalty for medium frames, 1% for heavy frames DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 734	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:33:00 - [46] - Quote I'm sure there's a lot of fake scouts now, people that wanna try out the scouts but have never actually been one before 1.8. And well.... there's nothing else to do but try out the new suits in ambush, skirmish and domination over and over again. Rage at Fanfest??
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 219	Posted - 2014.04.11 16:25:00 - [47] - Quote I'm a new fake scout. I've always favored an aggressive style of play heavy on flanking. I usually use a gal scout that is a combination of dampening and tank and leave the target acquisition to my eyes. -Aramis
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1049	Posted - 2014.04.11 16:29:00 - [48] - Quote I primarily play a slayer in this game (or as much of a slayer as my skills allow lol ) and I have a very aggressive playstyle. I started with an assault suit. I moved to a logi, and now I'm a scout. I run a scout now because of a) the strafing advantage their speed presents, b) their smaller hitbox, and c) their ability to use a cloak. Said simply, scouts simply slay the best in 1.8. Some may call me a FOTM-chaser...I simply call it using the best tool for the job.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2834	Posted - 2014.04.11 16:34:00 - [49] - Quote Very old scout I run Gal and Min and have played with the Amarr scout I plan on speccing into all of them soon See a lot of new scouts out and about now. Mostly Gal and Cal, see more Amarr than Min even, but that just be because i notice them more because they were expected to be the least used. KRRROOOOOOM
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 330	Posted - 2014.04.11 16:36:00 - [50] - Quote I didn't spec into scouts or proto heavies on this one because of potential rebalancing but I did go gallente scout on a test alt and boy, that scan radius and cloak is something. Don't know when it'll come or the severity of the balance pass, but I'm saving some 2.8 mil sp for when the qq has calmed down to irrelevancy. Best link spammer, because slaying is too mainstream and that's what everyone else told me. Best "PC" k/d 2/6 , 2/14, 2/



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