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MythTanker
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:18:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:MythTanker wrote:Speak for yourself I do pretty good with this suit. Its a flank/hit n run suit. Takes a high amount of skill i know, but it is worth it. Players who underestimate my suit are "free kill" I have yet to see a good Min Heavy, especially on PC... try the Sentinel CK.0 with a kin on low as it's the better fit.
The ones who underestimate the most are the first casualty of war. No one wants to take time to "git gud" (yes, the infamous DNS saying) with the suit.
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1060
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:27:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:MythTanker wrote:Speak for yourself I do pretty good with this suit. Its a flank/hit n run suit. Takes a high amount of skill i know, but it is worth it. Players who underestimate my suit are "free kill" I have yet to see a good Min Heavy, especially on PC... try the Sentinel CK.0 with a kin on low as it's the better fit. The ones who underestimate the most are the first casualty of a battle. No one wants to take time to "git gud" (yes, the infamous DNS saying) with the suit.
I tried using the Min Heavy yesterday, yet my Caldari was better on stat combination (higher shield + regen, only slightly slower than Min heavy). As it is I would only use the Minmatar to chase down lower skilled players since any good player will still land hits on me with ease.
Uprising 1.8 - Invisible War
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MythTanker
The Phoenix Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:31:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:MythTanker wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:MythTanker wrote:Speak for yourself I do pretty good with this suit. Its a flank/hit n run suit. Takes a high amount of skill i know, but it is worth it. Players who underestimate my suit are "free kill" I have yet to see a good Min Heavy, especially on PC... try the Sentinel CK.0 with a kin on low as it's the better fit. The ones who underestimate the most are the first casualty of a battle. No one wants to take time to "git gud" (yes, the infamous DNS saying) with the suit. I tried using the Min Heavy yesterday, yet my Caldari was better on stat combination (higher shield + regen, only slightly slower than Min heavy). As it is I would only use the Minmatar to chase down lower skilled players since any good player will still land hits on me with ease.
Lets agree to disagree
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2481
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:36:00 -
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Minmatar heavies are the perfect example of Minmatar Engineering, put him and a thunderdome and most people will bet on the other guy.
But Minmatar works best as flanker, if your fighting fair in Minmatar expect to loose.
Minmatar is all about getting the first shot and making it count
The heavy is no different.
Although nice little anecdote, I run a mlt min hvy with a energizer and a repper.
During 1 match, flanked a 5 man squad of advanced suits (might have had 1 proto), because they didn't think I was there I just mowed them all down before they had time to react!
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3600
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:02:00 -
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Stack KinCatz and use an Assault HMG.
The element of speedy surprise while maintaining a decent distance best plays to that suit's ability.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292
Science For Death
495
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:31:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:
I tried using the Min Heavy yesterday, yet my Caldari was better on stat combination (higher shield + regen, only slightly slower than Min heavy). As it is I would only use the Minmatar to chase down lower skilled players since any good player will still land hits on me with ease.
This is true, the strafe speed is kinda only useful against people with poor aim (it doesn't strafe THAT fast) and the caldari has the better stats so you can just rely on your shield but the 1 thing the Min has is its stamina regen. I know it doesn't help in a fight but i run my Amarr as my actual heavy and my Min as my assault suit and the stamina regen really helps in being everywhere.
Heavy v Heavy or actual Heavy work yeah it sucks but it's more than capable of raping any medium/light suit and its speed/stamina is awesome for that mobility in playing an assault type role, at the very least its been awesome raping people in pubs anyway so points well spent imo 
Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!
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DildoMcnutz
Science For Death
495
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:31:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:
I tried using the Min Heavy yesterday, yet my Caldari was better on stat combination (higher shield + regen, only slightly slower than Min heavy). As it is I would only use the Minmatar to chase down lower skilled players since any good player will still land hits on me with ease.
This is true, the strafe speed is kinda only useful against people with poor aim (it doesn't strafe THAT fast) and the caldari has the better stats so you can just rely on your shield but the 1 thing the Min has is its stamina regen. I know it doesn't help in a fight but i run my Amarr as my actual heavy and my Min as my assault suit and the stamina regen really helps in being everywhere.
Heavy v Heavy or actual Heavy work yeah it sucks but it's more than capable of raping any medium/light suit and its speed/stamina is awesome for that mobility in playing an assault type role, at the very least its been awesome raping people in pubs anyway so points well spent imo
Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
390
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:43:00 -
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I have a corp mate that wrecks enemies with his adv min heavy. He often goes high 30s low 40s in kills with few deaths. And he doesn't need a logi repping him to do it.
He uses his min heavy as a speedy flanker and frequently charges straight into buildings while stepping over the corpses of reds that underestimate how effective a min heavy can be when used by a highly skilled player.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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neausea 1987
R 0 N 1 N
156
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Posted - 2014.04.11 23:58:00 -
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easy kill my A$$ i can wreck in my minmitar fat suit, the only slight problem is mayyyyyyyybe amarr or gallente (proto sentinel suits) i run double cmp kin cats and two dmg mods, or one kincat and a rep and i do just fine, f*ck more than fine, people always hate minmitar talking like we trash well we are not. -in rust we trust
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
394
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:43:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:The Eristic wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Amarr are best at brick tanking. Except, in practice, they aren't. Almost every Gallente suit can out-brick its Amarr counterpart AND have built-in reps. Well, no. Amarr and Gallente share slot layouts (not really counting medium suits, since they haven't gotten their slots rebalanced in 1.8). Amarr have more base armor and same low slots. How can you then say that Gallente can have more potential armor? The numbers don't support that. Each would have 4 lows filled with plates and the Amarr would have more base armor to start with.
The numbers do support it, absolutely, as the Amarr heavy actually only has 3 lows at proto while the Gal has 4. Do the math, man, or just go to Protofits and build 'em out. The base armor differences are pretty much meaningless. They would have to be much more substantial than they currently are to have any substantial effect. Every single Gallente suit can tank more armor than the Amarr version except the scout (which, coincidentally, is the one case where slots are the same), and even then it's only a few HP short with the same amount of plates plus 3 reps/second plus more speed, so should the Amarr wish to have ANY reps at all the Gal can out tank it and still be much stealthier and only a hair slower. |
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
774
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Posted - 2014.04.12 21:48:00 -
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+1 to Alldin Kan for not chest beating despite the uninformed challenging his skill level. Most players who do well shout it at any provocation (or any opportunity, really) but Alldin has done no such thing but instead refuted points with numbers and personal experience. Definately some more respect earned here.
Vespasian Andendare wrote:
- Amarr are best at brick tanking. They have tremendous base armor and low slots to fill with even more. Yes, they're the slowest, but they are compensated with the highest stamina and sprint time. So, while your other heavy friends are running out of steam midway out in the open, you're still chugging along to that next piece of cover.
I never really understood why people make this argument, but I think it's a symptom of looking at the numbers but not all the numbers. Yes, while the Amarr can sprint longer than any other suit, all they are doing with that extra sprint is catching up. They are not passing. They are making up the ground lost from the lower speed in the first place. In the case of Amarr vs Minmatar, they'll never catch up because the Minmatar can recover all of it's stamina before the Amarr gets anywhere close to catching up.
Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5.
Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14.
A manu dei et tet rimon.
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castba
Penguin's March
372
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Posted - 2014.04.12 22:32:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:try running a min heavy with biotics/dampeners and a burst hmg... wrecks all other heavies Dampener on a heavy? Why? wouldn't you need like three complex to be effective?
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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
587
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Posted - 2014.04.13 00:56:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I love everything minmatar. The low HP means you have to play differently than the other suits. Hit and run, hit and run. I destroy other heavies with burst hmg and superior strafe and speed. Out in the open I'm toast though.
The same goes for all minmatar suits. They don't suck, you just don't know how to use them. There's more to dust than stand, point gun, and rely on dps and HP.
Oh and for the record... ITS GUERILLA WARFARE!
(although... The thought of gorillas engaging in war does intrigue me.) But I like gorilla warfare better. They fling **** at each other. :P
Thanks for the correction. I though it sounded funny.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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